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Packet-Radio Digest         Wed,  1 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 176

Today's Topics:
             HP-48SX for Packet??
           More info on 9k6 modems, please
                 Msys
               PacketCluster + G8BPQ ?
              Packet Radio on the Amiga
          problems with Kantronics All Mode
               Weather servers

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Date: 30 Jun 92 15:56:23 MDT
From: sdd.hp.com!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: HP-48SX for Packet??
To: [e-mail]

I thought remembered a few months ago, someone posting an article about using
the HP-48SX calculator on Packet.  I can't rememeber any of the details,
though.  Could someone please post or e-mail me details of this....It sounds
interesting enough to give it a shot.

Oh, one more thing....also tell me if this is all just a pipe dream..

73 de Dan, N7NKR
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Date: 30 Jun 92 21:32:35 GMT
From: felix!fritz![e-mail]
Subject: More info on 9k6 modems, please
To: [e-mail]

What is involved in putting the latest TAPR 9600 baud modem into a
new AEA PK-88?


--------
Dave Arnold - KD6IFY
Internet: [e-mail]    UUCP: uunet!felix!darnold
--- The opinions expressed above are only mine, not FileNet's

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Date: 30 Jun 92 16:39:47 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!kksys.com!tdkt![e-mail]
Subject: Msys
To: [e-mail]

Thanks for the comments on MSYS

73 Dan

 * SLMR 2.1a * Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.

 * Origin: HAM>link< RBBS 612/HAM-0000 Saint Paul, MN (K0TG) (1:282/100)

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Date: 30 Jun 92 19:25:42 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!ifsws1.sozialforschung.uni-stuttgart.de![e-mail]
Subject: PacketCluster + G8BPQ ?
To: [e-mail]

Hi folks,
in a recent article by a VE7 station I read that the G8BPQ node switch
will now support 62/64 users with the PacketCluster software.
Being quite unhappy with the DRSI-Cards and drivers I would like to obtain
more info on this.
I just downloaded BPQ405.ZIP from W3IWI's server, but the file cluster.doc
says it will work with 32 users only.

I heard of a version 4.05B, maybe that's it ?

By the way, if any other PacketCluster Sysops read this -
hopefully within a few weeks we'll start a new mailing list
dedicated to PacketCluster Sysops,
still looking for the mailserver-software...
I'll do another posting to let you know!

73,Frank
--
Frank Grossmann (DL1SBR)
Internet: [e-mail]
Packet Radio: [e-mail]
Stuttgart University, institute for social research

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Date: 30 Jun 1992 08:00:20 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Packet Radio on the Amiga
To: [e-mail]

--Mark, N5XYV asks about packet radio on the Amiga.

Currently, AmigaNOS is up to about version 2.9c (?) for those of you that
want to run TCP/IP.  I have not seen a lot of other software for the
Amiga dealing with ham radio.  Somewhere out there there is supposedly a
public domain disk with a bunch of ham software on it.  I run a terminal
program that I wrote in AmigaBasic.  It does what I want and it is tailored
for operating with the PK-88 and PK-232.  It is fast enough to handle
1200 baud packet, but just barely.  One of these days I will have to write
one in C (sometimes a daunting proposition on the Amiga :-( ).

73, Erich   KA6AMD

AX.25:  KA6AMD @ WA6YBN.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA
Internet:  [e-mail]

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Date: 30 Jun 92 14:10:34 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!mucs!cns!nessie![e-mail]
Subject: problems with Kantronics All Mode
To: [e-mail]

On my KAM it is:

intface kiss
reset

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Date: 30 Jun 1992 07:31:25 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Weather servers
To: [e-mail]

>heard rumors of a system called GRIP in Michigan that allows for IP
>access to the U of M weather server among others, but I have not seen

What are this weather servers used for and what data is available at it?
Can I use them using Internet mail?

73s de Gregor
Internet:  [e-mail]
Packet:    [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1992 14:04:45 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: OS/2 and Ham radio?

[e-mail] (Michael L. Hasenfratz) writes:

>>
>>      Why on earth would anyone put 30 MB of operating system on a computer to
>>      use amateur radio.  We have been a beta site for 2.0 for quite some time
>>      and still can make needed parts of it work, esp. TCP/IP.

>       Get a HAM license and find out. If you already have one, where have
>you been for last 5yrs. Subcribe to Tcp-Digest at ucsd.edu and find out!!!

>73's de mike WA6FXT

    I've had a license for 37 years.  I've spent the last 10 years designing        building and managing computers and networks.  I deal with this stuff
    8 hours a day.  I certainly am not going to go home and do it some
    more.  I can be heard TALKING on 10/17 in the winter months when its
    too cold to go fishing. -Roger

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Packet-Radio Digest         Thu,  2 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 177

Today's Topics:
             HP-48SX for Packet??
              Kantronics TNC's and 9600
          Packet Radio on the Amiga (2 msgs)
               Packet watching (3 msgs)

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policies or positions of any party.  Your mileage may vary.  So there.
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1992 06:09:27 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!wupost!darwin.sura.net!haven.umd.edu!wam.umd.edu![e-mail]
Subject: HP-48SX for Packet??
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (BeoPunk CyberWulf) writes:
>I thought remembered a few months ago, someone posting an article about using
>the HP-48SX calculator on Packet.  I can't rememeber any of the details,
>though.  Could someone please post or e-mail me details of this....It sounds
>interesting enough to give it a shot.


I've worked down into the Carribean from the middle of the U. of Maryland
Mall with my portable packet setup, including an HP-48SX as a terminal.

Snag some terminal software, grab a null-modem and appropriate serial
cables (need one from HP), get batteries for your TNC and radio and
go for it!

Look at comp.sys.hp48 for info on terminal programs.

-Thomas
 N3HAU

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Date: 1 Jul 1992 22:52:49 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Kantronics TNC's and 9600
To: [e-mail]

Catching up on mail...

     The only TNC that I know of that will run at 9600 (by Kantronics that
is) is the DataEngine.  Kantronics TNC's do the HDLC in software and the
CPU is just too busy and too slow to run at 9600. The maximum that one
can run is about 3000 bps.  They do just about everything in software,
as oppsed to other TNC's (AEA, MFJ, Paccomm, etc...) that do HDLC in
hardware and have no problem at 9600.  This has been confirmed several
times by several Kantronics engineers when I tried to put a V29 modem
in a KPC-2400, KPC-4, and KAM.
     Also for those with PK-232 without the mailbox board, 9600 runs a
lot better with the old 1987 EPROMS.

     Another note.  There is a difference between baud and bps (bits per
second). Baud would be the modulation rate while bps would be the
transfer rate.  I believe a G3RUH type modem is 9600 baud, but when
you get into QAM or PSK, like the V29 9600 modems, that is a 2400 baud
modem with a 9600 bps transfer rate  (uses  16-QAM).  4800 8-PSK has a
baud rate of 1600 hz.  Think the FCC can swing this for 10 meters!
Wouldn't PSK on SSB work better than FSK on FM ?  We've talked about
trying this with the V29 modems for a while, but never got around to
doing this.

Ron  N8FOW

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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1992 06:18:53 GMT
From: usc!wupost!darwin.sura.net!haven.umd.edu!wam.umd.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Packet Radio on the Amiga
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (39A::MUSCHINSKE) writes:
>Currently, AmigaNOS is up to about version 2.9c (?) for those of you that
>want to run TCP/IP.

Is AmigaNOS available for ftp from somehere?

-Thomas N3HAU

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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1992 10:16:42 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!marlin.jcu.edu.au!solwarra.gbrmpa.gov.au![e-mail]
Subject: Packet Radio on the Amiga
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (technopagan priest) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (39A::MUSCHINSKE) writes:
>>Currently, AmigaNOS is up to about version 2.9c (?) for those of you that
>>want to run TCP/IP.

>Is AmigaNOS available for ftp from somehere?

try ucsd.edu in the ham radio directory!!

>-Thomas N3HAU

73's de wayne!!

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Date: 1 Jul 92 12:49:15 GMT
From: pa.dec.com!datum.nyo.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!news.crl.dec.com!hollie.rdg.dec.com!movies.enet.dec.com![e-mail]
Subject: Packet watching
To: [e-mail]

Thanks to everyone who replied to my previous questions -- it seems like I am
not going to get 9k6 on my KPC2!

So, another way of making things a bit faster occurred to me.  I am away from
my TNC, at work all day.  Then I come home late at night, as do many others,
and we all go on air at the same time.  Result?  The channel gets saturated.

However, while I am away at work, there are still quite a few amateurs in the
area accessing a local BBS and reading bulls.  So, I am considering writing a
program which will watch all these bulls whizzing past, and grab them into the
PC's hard disk.  Effectively, then, a cache which will store the messages read
that day by anyone in the area.   And I guess that if that works I would add a
feature to let it grab any uncached bulls at, say, 3pm before I return from
work.  The point is that it would not need to download as much by itself,
because it could `listen in' on the bulls being read by other hams.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?  Good idea?  Bad idea?  Already been
done?

Thanks and 73s
/atp

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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+------------- The bridge is crossed, so stand and watch it burn -------------+

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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1992 02:30:28 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast![e-mail]
Subject: Packet watching
To: [e-mail]

As quoted from <[e-mail]> by [e-mail] (Alan T Potter):
+---------------
| program which will watch all these bulls whizzing past, and grab them into the
| PC's hard disk.  Effectively, then, a cache which will store the messages read
| that day by anyone in the area.   And I guess that if that works I would add a
| feature to let it grab any uncached bulls at, say, 3pm before I return from
| work.  The point is that it would not need to download as much by itself,
| because it could `listen in' on the bulls being read by other hams.
+---------------

Considering that this is exactly the way the pacsats work, it's somewhat
surprising that this isn't done on terrestrial packet.

(Note:  I doubt the programs for use with the pacsats would work for this,
I think they format messages a bit differently.  I may be wrong about that,
but *certainly* the code to request specific bulletins won't work.)

++Brandon
--
Brandon S. Allbery, KF8NH [44.70.4.88]: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Senior Programmer, Telotech, Inc. (if I may call myself that...)

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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1992 08:59:41 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!nigel.msen.com!yale.edu!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.de!zrz.tu-berlin.de![e-mail]
Subject: Packet watching
To: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH) writes:

>As quoted from <[e-mail]> by [e-mail] (Alan T Potter):
>+---------------
>| program which will watch all these bulls whizzing past, and grab them into the
>| PC's hard disk.  Effectively, then, a cache which will store the messages read
>| that day by anyone in the area.   And I guess that if that works I would add a
>| feature to let it grab any uncached bulls at, say, 3pm before I return from
>| work.  The point is that it would not need to download as much by itself,
>| because it could `listen in' on the bulls being read by other hams.
>+---------------

>Considering that this is exactly the way the pacsats work, it's somewhat
>surprising that this isn't done on terrestrial packet.

Try
  -rw-rw-rw-  1 ftp      ftp         12664 Apr 21 18:01 pktmon12.lzh
in directory
  /hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming:
at ucsd.edu

May be that helps for the beginning.

____________________________________________________________________________
  Rolf Bleher                      DK7IN  |
    E-Mail: [e-mail]  |  Institute of Microelectronics
    Phone:  [phone]              |  Technical University Berlin
    Fax:    [phone]              |  Jebensstrasse 1
    AX25:   dk7in @ db0gr.DEU.EU          |  D-1000 Berlin 12, Germany

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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 92 15:44:15 GMT
From: microme![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: OS/2 and Ham radio?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Roger Taylor) writes:
>[e-mail] (Michael L. Hasenfratz) writes:
>
>>>
>>>     Why on earth would anyone put 30 MB of operating system on a computer to
>>>     use amateur radio.  We have been a beta site for 2.0 for quite some time
>>>     and still can make needed parts of it work, esp. TCP/IP.
>
>>      Get a HAM license and find out. If you already have one, where have
>>you been for last 5yrs. Subcribe to Tcp-Digest at ucsd.edu and find out!!!
>
>>73's de mike WA6FXT
>
>       I've had a license for 37 years.  I've spent the last 10 years designing        building and managing computers and networks.  I deal with this stuff
>       8 hours a day.  I certainly am not going to go home and do it some
>       more.  I can be heard TALKING on 10/17 in the winter months when its
>       too cold to go fishing. -Roger

Well, Roger. I'm sorry to hear that you don't enjoy your work. I'm
luck I guess, my BOSS does'nt know I do at home for FREE, what he PAYS
me for.
    Remember, amatuer radio is MORE than TALKING on 10/17, to some
of us.

Mike Hasenfratz - WA6FXT * [e-mail] or uunet!microme!mikeh
Micro Memory Inc.
Chatsworth, Ca. 91311

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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1992 02:26:03 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>nco
Reply-To : [e-mail] (Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH)
Subject : Re: problems with Kantronics All Mode

Speaking of KAM problems...

I run my KAM at 4800 baud (using DESQview, and since the computer is going
away soon there's no point in hacking 16550s into it to run it at 9600 baud).
I've found that, with the 5.02 ROM, the KAM hangs when I exit KISS mode.
Specifically:  it prints the "cmd:" prompt, accepts a command, but does not
execute it.  Instead, it just goes into dumb echo mode.  Cycling power makes
it work again, but since I PERMed it into KISS mode that's how it comes up and
I can't get it out except by using the selftest/reset.  This does not happen
at 9600 baud.

Anyone else seen this?  Any suggestions (aside from (1) call Kantronics and
(2) "then don't do that!", both of which are obvious)?

++Brandon
(P.S.  (1) won't necessarily get me a solution in a timely fashion and (2)
isn't necessarily going to help, especially since I can't run it at 9600 on
this hardware.)
--
Brandon S. Allbery, KF8NH [44.70.4.88]: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Senior Programmer, Telotech, Inc. (if I may call myself that...)

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Packet-Radio Digest         Fri,  3 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 178

Today's Topics:
            G8BPQ/DESQview help required.
             HamCall and NET/Mac
              PacketCluster mailing list
              Packet Radio on the Amiga
              TCP/IP Frequencies PLEASE!
        TNCs for 9600 baud and TCP/IP (newbie)

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Date: 2 Jul 1992 07:52:58 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: G8BPQ/DESQview help required.
To: [e-mail]

Presuming this gets to the proper list: I am having difficulty understanding
the capability of G8BPQ, DESQview, and QEMM.  I need to understand if
BPQ will run in a DV window.  There are frequent references to DV in the
program and to EMS.  Thanks in advance.  Dave (KN2M)

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Date: 3 Jul 1992 01:27:35 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: HamCall and NET/Mac
To: [e-mail]

Has anyone succesfully integrated the Buckmaster HamCall CD-ROM with NET for
the Mac?

Is the data in the wrong format for use here?

73 for now....
Terry-KA8SCP, America Online Ham Radio Club Host
Internet: [e-mail]  _or_  [e-mail]
Packet: KA8SCP@WA1PHY.#EMA.MA.USA.NOAM  _or_ [e-mail]
[44.56.4.82]c

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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1992 15:54:02 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!ifsws1.sozialforschung.uni-stuttgart.de![e-mail]
Subject: PacketCluster mailing list
To: [e-mail]

Hi folks,

I'd like to invite all Sysops of PacketCluster nodes to a new mailing
list _entirely devoted to_ to Dick Newell's PacketCluster Software.

What you have to do to get in it ?

send a message to [e-mail]
with a message body of "help" - this is to show you the commands
this mailing list server supports.
Then, send a second message with a message body of
"subscribe packetcluster <firstname> <lastname> <(callsign)>"

so if you are Dick Newell and your callsign is AK1A,
the line would be:

subscribe packetcluster Dick Newell (AK1A)

Also I did open an anonymous FTP account on my machine to supply
PacketCluster-related software, information files and databases.

FTP to 129.69.162.1, login as "ftp", choose any password.

Then "cd /pub" - that's where the things are.
Feel free to upload files to /pub/uploads, don't forget to leave a *.txt file
to describe your upload.

73! Frank


--
Frank Grossmann (DL1SBR)
Internet: [e-mail]
Packet Radio: [e-mail]
Stuttgart University, institute for social research

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Date: 2 Jul 92 11:13:39 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!mucs!cns!nessie![e-mail]
Subject: Packet Radio on the Amiga
To: [e-mail]

Some time ago I was given 6 disks of Amateur Radio related programs, and
archived them up using LHWarp.  The 6 archives were ftp'ed to funet.fi,
but I can't remember what the exact pathname was....

John.

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Date: 1 Jul 92 22:23:52 GMT
From: darwin.sura.net!jvnc.net!phage!helix.cshl.org![e-mail]
Subject: TCP/IP Frequencies PLEASE!
To: [e-mail]

Can someone please tell me what frequencies are used for TCP/IP here
on Long Island, and addresses that I could connect to?
Any help would greatly be appreciated...


Thanks

Peter N2IFC
[e-mail]
:

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Date: 2 Jul 92 19:35:26 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!torn!news.ccs.queensu.ca!qucdnee.ee.queensu.ca![e-mail]
Subject: TNCs for 9600 baud and TCP/IP (newbie)
To: [e-mail]

Hi!

I'm in the process of buying a TNC for my (soon to be setup) packet station.
I've got a few questions:

    What would be the "best" TNC for 9600 baud and TCP/IP (using the KA9Q
    software) operation?

    I like the AEA PCB-88 because it's an internal TNC.  Can this unit
    handle the above modes of operation?

Comments on any other TNC and/or software package would be welcome.  I'm just
starting out and want to get off on the right foot.

Thanks in advance.

Russell Wright, VE3UKB
Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Queen's University
Kingston, ON

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Packet-Radio Digest         Sat,  4 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 179

Today's Topics:
                G8BPQ/Desqview
             packet radio modems.
               Packet watching
            TI-99 and packet radio

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policies or positions of any party.  Your mileage may vary.  So there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 3 Jul 1992 08:48:11 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: G8BPQ/Desqview
To: [e-mail]

In response to the question about running G8BPQ in a
Desqview window, I've been playing with this now for
several months.  My arrangement is the AA4RE BBS ver
2.12, G8BPQ ver 4.05 and Desqview 386.  I am currently
using a DRSI card with two ports and COM1 with a DSP-12
attached to provide 9600 baud access to the board.
Currently I run G8BPQ before Desqview.  In fact, some-
where in the G8BPQ docs it says that there have been
problems running it in a desqview window.  I can
confirm this.  For the last two weeks I ran G8BPQ in
a window and occasionally strange things would happen.
Mostly, the problem is that someone would log into the
board, get the sign on message, but then when it went
to determine how many messages the user would see if
he typed "L", it would just stop.  The computer wasn't
necessarily hung up at this point, it would just stop
sending or receiving data from the user.  Also from
time to time I would have the computer hang for no
apparant reason.

So I've gone back to running BPQ before desqview.  This
unfortunately allows a good deal less memory for other
programs, but it does allow me to run other BPQ services
in other windows at the same time, such as CHAT and HELP.
If you find a way to get BPQ to reliably run in a
window, I'd like to hear about it.  73 de John WA0PTV

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1992 23:19:33 GMT
From: mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!hal![e-mail]
Subject: packet radio modems.
To: [e-mail]

I have a few schematics for a few different packet radio modems not
requiriing a compiled modem to be built off of.  These are cheap(from 10-
25 dollars) but runn only up to 1200 bps, and one set has the transmitter
and receiver in a different schematic.  I have basic electronics background,
(I can do digital and anologue circuits with ease if the schematic is clear)
and wish to find schematics which entail radio modems of 2400 bps and above.
I would appreciate any information regarding where I might find such information

Thanks.
   [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 3 Jul 92 17:42:32 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!agate!rsoft!mindlink![e-mail]
Subject: Packet watching
To: [e-mail]

I seem to remember a program that did this... I can't remember anything more
about it but I could do some research if you like!

73's de Gordon VE7IBU

------------------------------

Date: 3 Jul 1992 21:47:30 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: TI-99 and packet radio
To: [e-mail]

Would anyone out there have any experience with using the
TI-99 for packet radio.  What I am looking for is an RS-232
interface connection or even a TTL interface if that is
possible with the TI-99.  Also I am looking for a good program
to use.  Anyone with any suggestions?  TNX


            73 N9NDS Brad

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Packet-Radio Digest         Sun,  5 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 180

Today's Topics:
           Packet + Amiga + disks on funet

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Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1992 17:51:34 GMT
From: usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!ubc-cs!unixg.ubc.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!access.usask.ca!herald.usask.ca![e-mail]
Subject: Packet + Amiga + disks on funet
To: [e-mail]

-> From: [e-mail] (John Heaton)
->
-> Some time ago I was given 6 disks of Amateur Radio related programs, and
-> archived them up using LHWarp.  The 6 archives were ftp'ed to funet.fi,
-> but I can't remember what the exact pathname was....
->
-> John.

I downloaded them all and only disks 1 and 4 would unpack properly. These
two were the only ones that LHWarp reported having 80 tracks. All the others
had 83 or some other silly number. Fortunately, I didn't try downloading
them to my Amiga at home over the phone at 1200 baud!
73 de Pete VE5VA
[e-mail]

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Packet-Radio Digest         Tue,  7 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 181

Today's Topics:
         Broadcast protocols for forwarding? (2 msgs)
             JVFAX SSTV settings
             packet radio modems.
            Please suggest a frequency ...
            PMP with the Kenwood TH27a HT

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Date: 6 Jul 92 12:20:15 GMT
From: swrinde!gatech!bloom-beacon!eru.mt.luth.se!lunic!sunic2!ugle.unit.no!news.uit.no!stud.cs.uit.no![e-mail]
Subject: Broadcast protocols for forwarding?
To: [e-mail]

The PB protocol is designed for PACSAT for sending messages from the
satellite to the users. This is a *broadcast* protocol which significantly
reduces transmission redundancy, when more than one station wants to down-
load the same message.

This seems to work fine for satellites, but what about using broadcast
protocols like PB, for terrestial traffic also?  BBS forwarding for example.
It is often frustrating to observe the forwarding between BBSes on HF.
The same BBS forwards to several other BBSes on the same frequency and
it have to send the same message to each of them.

I think that in cases where one BBS forwards the same mail to several others,
it can be done more efficiently by using a broadcast protocol.

73 de Oyvind
LA7ECA @ LA3T
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1992 20:53:18 GMT
From: stanford.edu!rock!fletcher![e-mail]
Subject: Broadcast protocols for forwarding?
To: [e-mail]

To the person interested in linking a repeater system for packet
over 6 meter from NJ to FLA.  I have some information from a
interested repeater owner near Asheville NC who is in the process
of installing a linked system on 6m with an antenna height of 120'
atop a mountian. (This will be a wide range rpt).  He is interested
in becoming part of the link system to support a large part of NC
and SC (possibly other states).  If you will email me at [e-mail]
and leave your email address, I will send this particular ham's address
back to you.  Thanks.

73

Daryl  KM4GO
[e-mail]

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Date: 6 Jul 92 19:53:12 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!wupost!darwin.sura.net!convex!constellation![e-mail]
Subject: JVFAX SSTV settings
To: [e-mail]

I have been playing around with the JVFAX program (ver. 5.0). Does
anyone know how the SSTV settings in this program (e.g., B/W, 8 sec,
color, 96 sec, etc.) should be set for the SSTV I run into on, say,
40 or 20 meters? It's a bit frustrating trying the 8 or so
combinations, waiting for somebody to send a new picture each time!

Also, I'd appreciate hearing of good frequenices for SSTV and
FAX (weather photos and news photos). Thanks and 73.

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Date: 6 Jul 92 13:32:07 GMT
From: news.u.washington.edu!usenet.coe.montana.edu!caen!mtu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: packet radio modems.
To: [e-mail]

In article <treason.710205573@hal> [e-mail] (Act of Treason) writes:
>I have a few schematics for a few different packet radio modems not
>requiriing a compiled modem to be built off of.  These are cheap(from 10-
>25 dollars) but runn only up to 1200 bps, and one set has the transmitter
>and receiver in a different schematic.  I have basic electronics background,
>(I can do digital and anologue circuits with ease if the schematic is clear)
>and wish to find schematics which entail radio modems of 2400 bps and above.
>I would appreciate any information regarding where I might find such information
>
>Thanks.
>   [e-mail]
>

Me too!!!   A friend of mine and I are trying to hook our machines together,
probably with a 9600 baud 10GHz SLIP link.  We are looking for stand alone 9600
baud modems that would work with a gunplexer.  Higher speed would work, but his
serial port can't handle more than 9600.

Does anybody know the address for TAPR?

Thanx and 73's
Ken Friberg n8pbe

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Jul 92 21:13:25 GMT
From: stanford.edu!leland.Stanford.EDU![e-mail]
Subject: Please suggest a frequency ...
To: [e-mail]

I was active on packet a few years ago, but drifted away due to time
constraints.  Now I've got a research project which requires a radio
link, and packet looks like the way to do it.

We're researching applications of the Global Positioning System.  One
of the things we're interested in is "differential GPS," in which an
accurately surveyed reference station broadcasts real-time corrections
to the GPS signal for nearby users.  The data rates required are
compatible with 1200 bps packet.

First question:  Is this legal to do on amateur packet radio?  It
seems to me that it is.  The bands /are/ for experimentation, after
all.  It's university research, sponsored by the FAA.  No one is
making a profit.  Everyone running a transmitter will be a licensed
ham.  (The rest of the group is currently studying for "codeless
technician" licenses--technological literacy is not a problem here.)

I've concluded, after some thought, that this is a legal and
appropriate use of the amateur bands.  If someone has a different
opinion, I would very much like to hear it.  Email, please; I don't
want to start a flame war.

Second question: What band and what frequency should we choose?  (Or,
How do we do this without making enemies?)  When we turn the
differential station on, it will be broadcasting packets almost
continuously for several hours.  We only need a few hundred milliwatts
to cover our experiment area, but the frequency will be unusable
through most of Palo Alto (as a guess).  I'd thought about 220, but ...

We want to put a differential receiver in a (large) radio-controlled
model airplane.  For related projects, we'll eventually want to send
telemetry from the aircraft back down to the ground.  Because of size
and weight constraints, the best radio for the job seems to be one of
the new miniature twin-band full-duplex HT's.  (We're looking at
ICOM's IC-W2A.)  That pretty much restricts us to 2m and 70cm, because
they don't build those HT's any other way.

Any suggestions for uplink and downlink frequencies?  My current
idea is to put the continuous uplink below 440 Mhz, possibly in the
ATV channels (the HT will receive the whole UHF band, but only
transmits 440-450).  The downlink, which will be intermittent but
audible over a wide area, must then be somewhere in the 2m band--but
where?  Any suggestions would be most welcome.

Unrelated question: While scanning packet ads in the last few days,
I've seen mention of 9600 baud modems which "won't work with all
radios."  Can someone enlighten me about these?  They don't seem to be
the same thing as the satellite 9600 PSK modems.  What are they, and
which radios will they work with?

Thanks in advance!
--Stu, N5JXE  (callbook address is obsolete)
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 6 Jul 1992 06:08:31 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: PMP with the Kenwood TH27a HT
To: [e-mail]

I would like to know how to connect the Poor Man's Packet TNC to
a Kenwood TH27a HT.

Any info would be appreciated.

Julie Strietelmeier N9MSN
Packet: n9msn @ k9iu.in.usa.na
Internet: [e-mail]
GEnie: julie.a.s
Sysop of CrossRoads BBS [phone]

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Packet-Radio Digest         Wed,  8 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 182

Today's Topics:
          BayCom and VPix/ISC3.0 ?! - HELP !
                G8bpq/desqview
             packet radio modems.
              PK232MBX for sale: $259.00
            Questions about packet
               Usenet and packet radio
           Where can I find a BBS package?

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1992 17:06:39 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!wupost!darwin.sura.net!jvnc.net!yale.edu!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.de!fub!einoed!bitcave!chamber.in-berlin.de![e-mail]
Subject: BayCom and VPix/ISC3.0 ?! - HELP !
To: [e-mail]

Hi !

I use BayCom and a self made 3105-modem for packet on 2m and 70cm.
Now, as my main computer is scheduled to run ISC 3.0 24h a day, I
tried to get BayCom work under VPix, but with no success.

Does anybody know if it IS possible to use BayCom with VPix on ISC3.0
and if, how ... - I also use FAS 2.09-Async-Driver, and a AST-4-port-card.
I tried to setup baseaddr and comirq like I died under DOS, but it didn't
work. l2 loads correctly but without the cursor in the upper right corner.
SCC also loads correct but I can't send or receive data from the radio.

Any hints ??? - Thanx in advance !!!

73, Pat, DD6PF.

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Date: 7 Jul 92 20:04:09 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!kksys.com!tdkt![e-mail]
Subject: G8bpq/desqview
To: [e-mail]

JAH>If you find a way to get BPQ to reliably run in a
JAH>window, I'd like to hear about it.  73 de John WA0PTV
Use QEMM's loadhi  to load BPQ into high memory. You can use
Optimize to set it all up for you. You should allways load
bpq before DV, otherwise your DV task's will not be able to
interface to it properly.

73 Dan WB0GDB @ WB0GDB.MN
 * SLMR 2.1a * My reality check just bounced.

 * Origin: HAM>link< RBBS 612/HAM-0000 Saint Paul, MN (K0TG) (1:282/100)

------------------------------

Date: 8 Jul 92 11:24:49 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!msus1.msus.edu!msus1.msus.edu![e-mail]
Subject: packet radio modems.
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Kenberg Frieth) writes:
>In article <treason.710205573@hal> [e-mail] (Act of Treason) writes:
>>I have a few schematics for a few different packet radio modems not
>>requiriing a compiled modem to be built off of.  These are cheap(from 10-
>>25 dollars) but runn only up to 1200 bps, and one set has the transmitter
>>and receiver in a different schematic.  I have basic electronics background,
>>(I can do digital and anologue circuits with ease if the schematic is clear)
>>and wish to find schematics which entail radio modems of 2400 bps and above.
>>I would appreciate any information regarding where I might find such information
>>
>>Thanks.
>>   [e-mail]
>>
>
>Me too!!!   A friend of mine and I are trying to hook our machines together,
>probably with a 9600 baud 10GHz SLIP link.  We are looking for stand alone 9600
>baud modems that would work with a gunplexer.  Higher speed would work, but his
>serial port can't handle more than 9600.
>
>Does anybody know the address for TAPR?
>
>Thanx and 73's
>Ken Friberg n8pbe


The TAPR address I have is:
Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Corp. (TAPR), P.O. Box 22888,
Tucson, AZ 85734

------------------------------

Date: 7 Jul 92 20:16:13 GMT
From: amdahl!JUTS![e-mail]
Subject: PK232MBX for sale: $259.00
To: [e-mail]


I have a AEA PK-232MBX for sale, used on my SW receiver for
FAX, RTTY and the such.  Works fine, docs included (as good
as AEA ever made them), and cable to connect to your computer.
The firmware is release 31.OCT.89 (chksum $E3). Also I have
the older version of the FAX software.  And the AC power
supply.  Ok, no more.....


Asking $259.00

Call Dana or amail.
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------------------------------

Date: 8 Jul 92 05:06:55 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!news.uiowa.edu!icaen.uiowa.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Questions about packet
To: [e-mail]

I've got a couple of questions maybe someone can help me with:

  1) Anyone have an address/email/phone for TAPR?

  2) Are there any problems with the MFJ-1270B TNC?  This appears to be the
     least expensive one I can find.

  3) I've got an old crystal mobile radio - a Regency BTH-201.  I need
     somewhere to get crystals for it - ideas?

  4) I've got a NeXT computer which runs BSD Unix.  I'd like to run Ka9q
     on it, but all I've found is a sysV version.  Anyone got this
     working on BSD unix? (I really hate to have to dig out my dos box...)

  Thanks!
    - dave
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Date: 7 Jul 92 23:33:39 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!csus.edu!netcomsv!mork![e-mail]
Subject: Usenet and packet radio
To: [e-mail]

I am currently trying to obtain a relatively inexpensive news feed in
Dubuque, IA.  I haven't been able to find anything available locally
over phone lines because Dubuque doesn't appear to be close to any
part of known civilization.  I would use UUNET but  I am looking for
the full feed and even their 800 number rate could get out of hand.

1) Is packet radio an option for news and e-mail?
2) Is there someone or something that can explain how to do it?
3) Is access to Internet e-mail, ftp, and telnet also available?

Please respond via e-mail
Thanks in advance
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 7 Jul 92 21:18:09 GMT
From: fluke![e-mail]
Subject: Where can I find a BBS package?
To: [e-mail]

Hi,  I am interested in setting up a BBS so that people can call up
my machine and download the latest utilitys that have been written/donated.

I was wondering if anyone could point me to a good BBS program?  Either
commercial or PD, it doesn't matter to me.  I am big-time ignorant as
to what to look for and where to look.

Thanks in advance to anyone willing to spend a second or two and
enlighten me. :-)


Richard Kowalsky
    (N7RAY)
[phone]

REPLY: [e-mail]

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Packet-Radio Digest         Thu,  9 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 183

Today's Topics:
            G8BPQ/DESQview help required.
          HAPN4800 modem info,expirience PLS
            LAN Link Version 2.0 Available
           LAN Link Version 2.0 Available -- UPDATE
             packet radio modems.
            Questions about packet
        Rejected posting to I-PACRAD@UIUCVMD (2 msgs)

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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1992 16:57:43 GMT
From: iWarp.intel.com|ssd.intel.com![e-mail]
Subject: G8BPQ/DESQview help required.
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (D.RODMAN) writes:
>Presuming this gets to the proper list: I am having difficulty understanding
>the capability of G8BPQ, DESQview, and QEMM.  I need to understand if
>BPQ will run in a DV window.  There are frequent references to DV in the
>program and to EMS.  Thanks in advance.  Dave (KN2M)

Until recently, I was running a W0RLI PBBS using BPQ, DESQview and QEMM.
All the TSRs (G8BPQ, and MB handlers) must be loaded prior to opening
any DV windows. My understanding is that if you are planning to use DV
you must inform BPQ via the configuration program.

------------------------------

Date: 8 Jul 1992 16:50:47 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: HAPN4800 modem info,expirience PLS
To: [e-mail]

I upload to /hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming the hapn4800.arc .
It is the HAPN 4800 modem. The document is in Dutch .
The .PRN can be print to a Epson printer.
I do not know German but as I can see it needs mods to T/R as K9NG/G3RUH does.
Has anyone more info on this modem or any expirience ?
Any info about board availability , English docs , cost ,
compares to K9NG/G3RUH .
73 de
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Date: 8 Jul 92 14:23:41 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!yale.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!news.Brown.EDU!news.Brown.EDU![e-mail]
Subject: LAN Link Version 2.0 Available
To: [e-mail]

Enthusiasts!

I have Lan Link Version 2.0 (thanks to Joe Kasser/G3ZCZ) available...
It's at imbrium.geo.brown.edu in /pub/hamradio/incoming and it's in
/pub/hamradio/software.

[ I'm told (and confirmed that) it's also available on tomcat.gsfc.nasa.gov. ]

    Anonymous FTP to ===>  imbrium.geo.brown.edu  (128.148.116.18)

    login as 'anonymous'
    Enter your e-mail address as the password.  Note that
   My FTP server is VERY picky, so don't try to fool it!

    cd pub/hamradio/incoming
    binary
    get ll200exe.zip
    get emler100.zip
    bye


That's it!  Enjoy!

73s de N1LLV, Darrin


#include <std_disclaimer.h>
=============================================================================
=  Darrin E. Robinson (DER31) =    Hamnet     N1LLV  146.700-, 146.880- MHz =
=  VAX/VMS and Sun Manager    =    Internet   [e-mail] =
=  Brown University           =               [e-mail]    =
=  Providence, R.I. 02912     =    SPAN(et)   PGGIPL::ROBINSON (Node 7132)  =
=  AT&Tnet: [phone]    =    Nasamail   [e-mail]  =
=============================================================================

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Date: 8 Jul 92 15:44:55 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!hri.com!noc.near.net!news.Brown.EDU!news.Brown.EDU![e-mail]
Subject: LAN Link Version 2.0 Available -- UPDATE
To: [e-mail]

[TEXT IS CORRECTED... YOU DO NOT NEED ELMER100.ZIP]

Enthusiasts!

I have Lan Link Version 2.0 (thanks to Joe Kasser/G3ZCZ) available...
It's at imbrium.geo.brown.edu in /pub/hamradio/incoming and it's in
/pub/hamradio/software.

[ I'm told (and confirmed that) it's also available on tomcat.gsfc.nasa.gov. ]

    Anonymous FTP to ===>  imbrium.geo.brown.edu  (128.148.116.18)

    login as 'anonymous'
    Enter your e-mail address as the password.  Note that
   My FTP server is VERY picky, so don't try to fool it!

    cd pub/hamradio/incoming
    binary
    get ll200exe.zip
    bye


That's it!  Enjoy!

73s de N1LLV, Darrin
#include <std_disclaimer.h>
=============================================================================
=  Darrin E. Robinson (DER31) =    Hamnet     N1LLV  146.700-, 146.880- MHz =
=  VAX/VMS and Sun Manager    =    Internet   [e-mail] =
=  Brown University           =               [e-mail]    =
=  Providence, R.I. 02912     =    SPAN(et)   PGGIPL::ROBINSON (Node 7132)  =
=  AT&Tnet: [phone]    =    Nasamail   [e-mail]  =
=============================================================================

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Date: 8 Jul 92 16:01:26 GMT
From: psinntp![e-mail]
Subject: packet radio modems.
To: [e-mail]

In rec.radio.amateur.packet, [e-mail] writes:
>
>The TAPR address I have is:
>Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Corp. (TAPR), P.O. Box 22888,
>Tucson, AZ 85734

That's an old address.  The current TAPR address is:

TAPR
PO Box 12925
Tucson, AZ  85732

tel: [phone]
fax: [phone]

Last I heard, the office is normally staffed 10-3 MST
(no daylight time there), Tuesday through Friday.
-------
Jon Bloom, KE3Z                   |  [e-mail]
American Radio Relay League       |
225 Main St.                      |
Newington, CT 06111               |

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1992 12:31:05 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!mtu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Questions about packet
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Iowa Student Computer Assoc) writes:
>  1) Anyone have an address/email/phone for TAPR?

    Tucson Amateur Packet Radio
    PO Box 12925
    Tucson Arizona
    85732

    voice: [phone]
    fax:   [phone]

>  2) Are there any problems with the MFJ-1270B TNC?  This appears to be the
>     least expensive one I can find.

    I've had good luck with mine, so far.  Haven't tried TCP/IP
    on it yet, though.

>  3) I've got an old crystal mobile radio - a Regency BTH-201.  I need
>     somewhere to get crystals for it - ideas?

    Try Jan Crystals.  They advertise in the ham magazines (QST for
    sure, probably 73 too.)

>  4) I've got a NeXT computer which runs BSD Unix.  I'd like to run Ka9q
>     on it, but all I've found is a sysV version.  Anyone got this
>     working on BSD unix? (I really hate to have to dig out my dos box...)

    Can't help you there.  I've fought with that version myself, but
    couldn't make it run under V7 unix.

73s and happy packeting
Ken Friberg n8pbe

------------------------------

Date: 8 Jul 1992 06:52:31 -0700
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Packet-Radio Digest         Wed,  8 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 182

Today's Topics:
          BayCom and VPix/ISC3.0 ?! - HELP !
                G8bpq/desqview
             packet radio modems.
              PK232MBX for sale: $259.00
            Questions about packet
               Usenet and packet radio
           Where can I find a BBS package?

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----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1992 17:06:39 GMT
From:
 sdd.hp.com!wupost!darwin.sura.net!jvnc.net!yale.edu!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.d
 e!fub!einoed!bitcave!chamber.in-berlin.de![e-mail]
Subject: BayCom and VPix/ISC3.0 ?! - HELP !
To: [e-mail]

Hi !

I use BayCom and a self made 3105-modem for packet on 2m and 70cm.
Now, as my main computer is scheduled to run ISC 3.0 24h a day, I
tried to get BayCom work under VPix, but with no success.

Does anybody know if it IS possible to use BayCom with VPix on ISC3.0
and if, how ... - I also use FAS 2.09-Async-Driver, and a AST-4-port-card.
I tried to setup baseaddr and comirq like I died under DOS, but it didn't
work. l2 loads correctly but without the cursor in the upper right corner.
SCC also loads correct but I can't send or receive data from the radio.

Any hints ??? - Thanx in advance !!!

73, Pat, DD6PF.

--

--
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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 - - - - - - - - - | [e-mail] | Data: +49 30 / 402 56 92 -
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 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------

Date: 7 Jul 92 20:04:09 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!kksys.com!tdkt![e-mail]
Subject: G8bpq/desqview
To: [e-mail]

JAH>If you find a way to get BPQ to reliably run in a
JAH>window, I'd like to hear about it.  73 de John WA0PTV
Use QEMM's loadhi  to load BPQ into high memory. You can use
Optimize to set it all up for you. You should allways load
bpq before DV, otherwise your DV task's will not be able to
interface to it properly.

73 Dan WB0GDB @ WB0GDB.MN
 * SLMR 2.1a * My reality check just bounced.

 * Origin: HAM>link< RBBS 612/HAM-0000 Saint Paul, MN (K0TG) (1:282/100)

------------------------------

Date: 8 Jul 92 11:24:49 GMT
From:
 sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!msus1.msus.edu!msus1.msus.edu![e-mail]
 .EDU
Subject: packet radio modems.
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Kenberg Frieth)
 writes:
>In article <treason.710205573@hal> [e-mail] (Act of Treason)
 writes:
>>I have a few schematics for a few different packet radio modems not
>>requiriing a compiled modem to be built off of.  These are cheap(from 10-
>>25 dollars) but runn only up to 1200 bps, and one set has the transmitter
>>and receiver in a different schematic.  I have basic electronics background,
>>(I can do digital and anologue circuits with ease if the schematic is clear)
>>and wish to find schematics which entail radio modems of 2400 bps and above.
>>I would appreciate any information regarding where I might find such
 information
>>
>>Thanks.
>>   [e-mail]
>>
>
>Me too!!!   A friend of mine and I are trying to hook our machines together,
>probably with a 9600 baud 10GHz SLIP link.  We are looking for stand alone 9600
>baud modems that would work with a gunplexer.  Higher speed would work, but his
>serial port can't handle more than 9600.
>
>Does anybody know the address for TAPR?
>
>Thanx and 73's
>Ken Friberg n8pbe


The TAPR address I have is:
Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Corp. (TAPR), P.O. Box 22888,
Tucson, AZ 85734

------------------------------

Date: 7 Jul 92 20:16:13 GMT
From: amdahl!JUTS![e-mail]
Subject: PK232MBX for sale: $259.00
To: [e-mail]


I have a AEA PK-232MBX for sale, used on my SW receiver for
FAX, RTTY and the such.  Works fine, docs included (as good
as AEA ever made them), and cable to connect to your computer.
The firmware is release 31.OCT.89 (chksum $E3). Also I have
the older version of the FAX software.  And the AC power
supply.  Ok, no more.....


Asking $259.00

Call Dana or amail.
--
Dana A. Freiburger, Bringup Engineer   |    [e-mail]     |
Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale, CA      |      [phone]        |
[     The opinions expressed above are mine, solely, and do not     ]
[     necessarily reflect the opinions or policies of Amdahl Corp.  ]

------------------------------

Date: 8 Jul 92 05:06:55 GMT
From:
 swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!news
 .uiowa.edu!icaen.uiowa.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Questions about packet
To: [e-mail]

I've got a couple of questions maybe someone can help me with:

  1) Anyone have an address/email/phone for TAPR?

  2) Are there any problems with the MFJ-1270B TNC?  This appears to be the
     least expensive one I can find.

  3) I've got an old crystal mobile radio - a Regency BTH-201.  I need
     somewhere to get crystals for it - ideas?

  4) I've got a NeXT computer which runs BSD Unix.  I'd like to run Ka9q
     on it, but all I've found is a sysV version.  Anyone got this
     working on BSD unix? (I really hate to have to dig out my dos box...)

  Thanks!
    - dave
--
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------------------------------

Date: 7 Jul 92 23:33:39 GMT
From:
 swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!csus.edu!netcomsv
 !mork![e-mail]
Subject: Usenet and packet radio
To: [e-mail]

I am currently trying to obtain a relatively inexpensive news feed in
Dubuque, IA.  I haven't been able to find anything available locally
over phone lines because Dubuque doesn't appear to be close to any
part of known civilization.  I would use UUNET but  I am looking for
the full feed and even their 800 number rate could get out of hand.

1) Is packet radio an option for news and e-mail?
2) Is there someone or something that can explain how to do it?
3) Is access to Internet e-mail, ftp, and telnet also available?

Please respond via e-mail
Thanks in advance
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 7 Jul 92 21:18:09 GMT
From: fluke![e-mail]
Subject: Where can I find a BBS package?
To: [e-mail]

Hi,  I am interested in setting up a BBS so that people can call up
my machine and download the latest utilitys that have been written/donated.

I was wondering if anyone could point me to a good BBS program?  Either
commercial or PD, it doesn't matter to me.  I am big-time ignorant as
to what to look for and where to look.

Thanks in advance to anyone willing to spend a second or two and
enlighten me. :-)


Richard Kowalsky
    (N7RAY)
[phone]

REPLY: [e-mail]

------------------------------

End of Packet-Radio Digest V92 #182
******************************

------------------------------

Date: 8 Jul 1992 09:12:25 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Rejected posting to I-PACRAD@UIUCVMD
To: [e-mail]

Your message is being returned to you unprocessed because it seems to have been
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Subject: Packet-Radio Digest V92 #182
To: [e-mail]


Packet-Radio Digest         Wed,  8 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 182

Today's Topics:
          BayCom and VPix/ISC3.0 ?! - HELP !
                G8bpq/desqview
             packet radio modems.
              PK232MBX for sale: $259.00
            Questions about packet
               Usenet and packet radio
           Where can I find a BBS package?

Send Replies or notes for publication to: <[e-mail]>
Send subscription requests to: <[e-mail]>
Problems you can't solve otherwise to [e-mail].

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(by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/packet-radio".

We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
policies or positions of any party.  Your mileage may vary.  So there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1992 17:06:39 GMT
From:
 sdd.hp.com!wupost!darwin.sura.net!jvnc.net!yale.edu!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.d
 e!fub!einoed!bitcave!chamber.in-berlin.de![e-mail]
Subject: BayCom and VPix/ISC3.0 ?! - HELP !
To: [e-mail]

Hi !

I use BayCom and a self made 3105-modem for packet on 2m and 70cm.
Now, as my main computer is scheduled to run ISC 3.0 24h a day, I
tried to get BayCom work under VPix, but with no success.

Does anybody know if it IS possible to use BayCom with VPix on ISC3.0
and if, how ... - I also use FAS 2.09-Async-Driver, and a AST-4-port-card.
I tried to setup baseaddr and comirq like I died under DOS, but it didn't
work. l2 loads correctly but without the cursor in the upper right corner.
SCC also loads correct but I can't send or receive data from the radio.

Any hints ??? - Thanx in advance !!!

73, Pat, DD6PF.

--

--
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 -  Patrick Wendt  |   [e-mail] |  Zombies Burial Chamber  -
 -      DD6PF      |   [e-mail] | Public UNIX Sys-V 386/33 -
 - - - - - - - - - | [e-mail] | Data: +49 30 / 402 56 92 -
 - Berlin, Germany | [e-mail] | HST D.S. 14400bps V32bis -
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------

Date: 7 Jul 92 20:04:09 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!kksys.com!tdkt![e-mail]
Subject: G8bpq/desqview
To: [e-mail]

JAH>If you find a way to get BPQ to reliably run in a
JAH>window, I'd like to hear about it.  73 de John WA0PTV
Use QEMM's loadhi  to load BPQ into high memory. You can use
Optimize to set it all up for you. You should allways load
bpq before DV, otherwise your DV task's will not be able to
interface to it properly.

73 Dan WB0GDB @ WB0GDB.MN
 * SLMR 2.1a * My reality check just bounced.

 * Origin: HAM>link< RBBS 612/HAM-0000 Saint Paul, MN (K0TG) (1:282/100)

------------------------------

Date: 8 Jul 92 11:24:49 GMT
From:
 sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!msus1.msus.edu!msus1.msus.edu![e-mail]
 .EDU
Subject: packet radio modems.
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Kenberg Frieth)
 writes:
>In article <treason.710205573@hal> [e-mail] (Act of Treason)
 writes:
>>I have a few schematics for a few different packet radio modems not
>>requiriing a compiled modem to be built off of.  These are cheap(from 10-
>>25 dollars) but runn only up to 1200 bps, and one set has the transmitter
>>and receiver in a different schematic.  I have basic electronics background,
>>(I can do digital and anologue circuits with ease if the schematic is clear)
>>and wish to find schematics which entail radio modems of 2400 bps and above.
>>I would appreciate any information regarding where I might find such
 information
>>
>>Thanks.
>>   [e-mail]
>>
>
>Me too!!!   A friend of mine and I are trying to hook our machines together,
>probably with a 9600 baud 10GHz SLIP link.  We are looking for stand alone 9600
>baud modems that would work with a gunplexer.  Higher speed would work, but his
>serial port can't handle more than 9600.
>
>Does anybody know the address for TAPR?
>
>Thanx and 73's
>Ken Friberg n8pbe


The TAPR address I have is:
Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Corp. (TAPR), P.O. Box 22888,
Tucson, AZ 85734

------------------------------

Date: 7 Jul 92 20:16:13 GMT
From: amdahl!JUTS![e-mail]
Subject: PK232MBX for sale: $259.00
To: [e-mail]


I have a AEA PK-232MBX for sale, used on my SW receiver for
FAX, RTTY and the such.  Works fine, docs included (as good
as AEA ever made them), and cable to connect to your computer.
The firmware is release 31.OCT.89 (chksum $E3). Also I have
the older version of the FAX software.  And the AC power
supply.  Ok, no more.....


Asking $259.00

Call Dana or amail.
--
Dana A. Freiburger, Bringup Engineer   |    [e-mail]     |
Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale, CA      |      [phone]        |
[     The opinions expressed above are mine, solely, and do not     ]
[     necessarily reflect the opinions or policies of Amdahl Corp.  ]

------------------------------

Date: 8 Jul 92 05:06:55 GMT
From:
 swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!news
 .uiowa.edu!icaen.uiowa.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Questions about packet
To: [e-mail]

I've got a couple of questions maybe someone can help me with:

  1) Anyone have an address/email/phone for TAPR?

  2) Are there any problems with the MFJ-1270B TNC?  This appears to be the
     least expensive one I can find.

  3) I've got an old crystal mobile radio - a Regency BTH-201.  I need
     somewhere to get crystals for it - ideas?

  4) I've got a NeXT computer which runs BSD Unix.  I'd like to run Ka9q
     on it, but all I've found is a sysV version.  Anyone got this
     working on BSD unix? (I really hate to have to dig out my dos box...)

  Thanks!
    - dave
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  David Lacey                           | Try the ISCA BBS and Archives    |
|  President, Iowa Student Computer Assn | Telnet/FTP: grind.isca.uiowa.edu |
|  The University of Iowa                | telnet/rlogin in as iscabbs      |
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------

Date: 7 Jul 92 23:33:39 GMT
From:
 swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!csus.edu!netcomsv
 !mork![e-mail]
Subject: Usenet and packet radio
To: [e-mail]

I am currently trying to obtain a relatively inexpensive news feed in
Dubuque, IA.  I haven't been able to find anything available locally
over phone lines because Dubuque doesn't appear to be close to any
part of known civilization.  I would use UUNET but  I am looking for
the full feed and even their 800 number rate could get out of hand.

1) Is packet radio an option for news and e-mail?
2) Is there someone or something that can explain how to do it?
3) Is access to Internet e-mail, ftp, and telnet also available?

Please respond via e-mail
Thanks in advance
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 7 Jul 92 21:18:09 GMT
From: fluke![e-mail]
Subject: Where can I find a BBS package?
To: [e-mail]

Hi,  I am interested in setting up a BBS so that people can call up
my machine and download the latest utilitys that have been written/donated.

I was wondering if anyone could point me to a good BBS program?  Either
commercial or PD, it doesn't matter to me.  I am big-time ignorant as
to what to look for and where to look.

Thanks in advance to anyone willing to spend a second or two and
enlighten me. :-)


Richard Kowalsky
    (N7RAY)
[phone]

REPLY: [e-mail]

------------------------------

End of Packet-Radio Digest V92 #182
******************************

------------------------------

End of Packet-Radio Digest V92 #183
******************************
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 92 04:30:03 PDT
From: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup <[e-mail]>
Errors-To: [e-mail]
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Precedence: Bulk
Subject: Packet-Radio Digest V92 #184
To: packet-radio


Packet-Radio Digest         Fri, 10 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 184

Today's Topics:
          HAPN4800 modem info,expirience PLS
            L.L. Grace DSP-12 experience?
                 Lan Link 2.0
            Lan Link 2.00 (2 msgs)
             OS/2 and Ham radio?
                 Small TNC's

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We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
policies or positions of any party.  Your mileage may vary.  So there.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 9 Jul 92 16:19:01 GMT
From: usc!wupost!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!orstnews!ECE.ORST.EDU![e-mail]
Subject: HAPN4800 modem info,expirience PLS
To: [e-mail]

George mentions the docs for the hapn 4800 Bd modem are in Dutch.
If there is enough interest, i'd be willing to translate this
to English (seeing as i am a native Dutch speaker :-)

Johan, WG7J

------------------------------

Date: 10 Jul 92 02:23:49 GMT
From: pa.dec.com!datum.nyo.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!bhajee.enet.dec.com![e-mail]
Subject: L.L. Grace DSP-12 experience?
To: [e-mail]

I haven't been able to follow this group in the past few months so please
excuse me if there has been discussion on this before.

Has anyone here had first-hand experience with the L.L. Grace DSP-12 modem?

What other (if any) DSP-based modems are there on the market now?

73 de Ora, DJ0MAR

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 9 Jul 92 13:31:01 GMT
From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!isis.cs.du.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Lan Link 2.0
To: [e-mail]

I am not able to FTP to imbrium.geo.brown.edu to get Lan Link 2.0.  Would
some kind soul please email it to me.  Thanks and 73.

 -timothy r. wilhite kb0aso

------------------------------

Date: 9 Jul 1992 08:33:59 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Lan Link 2.00
To: [e-mail]

Date:      Thu, 9 Jul 1992 11:20:11 EDT
From:      Princeton BITNET FTP Server <BITFTP3@PUCC>
To:        BTITMARS@ESOC
Subject:   BITFTP REPLY



11:18:31 >  ftp imbrium.geo.brown.edu
11:18:31 >  user anonymous
11:18:31 >  pass [e-mail]
11:18:31 >> OPEN IMBRIUM.GEO.BROWN.EDU
11:18:34 <<< 220 imbrium FTP server (Version 6.11 Mon Jul 6 12:09:43
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11:18:35 >>> PASS ********
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         530-Please use your e-mail address as your password
         530-   for example: [e-mail] or joe@
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11:18:39 <<< 220 imbrium FTP server (Version 6.11 Mon Jul 6 12:09:43
         EDT 1992) ready.
11:18:39 >> USER anonymous [e-mail]
11:18:44 >>> USER anonymous
11:18:44 <<< 331 Guest login ok, send e-mail address as password.
11:18:44 >>> PASS ********
11:18:44 <<< 230-Thu Jul  9 11:19:50 1992
         230-Welcome, Archive User at puiptest.Princeton.EDU!
         230-
         230-This is an experimental FTP server.  If have any unu
         sual problems, please
         230-report them via e-mail to [e-mail].
         edu.
         230-
         230-All transfers are logged with your host name and ema
         il address.
         230-If you don't like this policy, disconnect now!
         230-
         230-If you do have problems, please try using a dash (-)
          as the first character
         230-of your password -- this will turn off the continuat
         ion messages that may
         230-be confusing your ftp client.
         230-
         230-
         230-Please read the file README
         230-  it was last modified on Thu Jul  9 10:27:37 1992 -
          0 days ago
         230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.

11:18:45 > cd pub/hamradio/incoming
11:18:45 >> cd pub/hamradio/incoming
11:18:46 >>> CWD pub/hamradio/incoming
11:18:46 <<< 250-

Ok i finally got login .. but what a Pain in the Butt..
This ftp site is amost impossible to login if like me you have to use a
remote ftp server like bitftp @ pucc !!
Is this really nessary ? anonymous loging IS anonymous login ?? isnt it ??
ok got the file.any way thanks.. but never again.. Ugh..
barry..

------------------------------

Date: 9 Jul 92 17:50:16 GMT
From: yale.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!news.Brown.EDU!stout![e-mail]
Subject: Lan Link 2.00
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (BARRY TITMARSH) writes:
>
>To:        BTITMARS@ESOC
>Subject:   BITFTP REPLY
>
>
>
>11:18:31 >  ftp imbrium.geo.brown.edu
>11:18:31 >  user anonymous
>11:18:31 >  pass [e-mail]
>11:18:31 >> OPEN IMBRIUM.GEO.BROWN.EDU
>11:18:34 <<< 220 imbrium FTP server (Version 6.11 Mon Jul 6 12:09:43
>             EDT 1992) ready.
>11:18:34 >> USER anonymous BTITMARS@ESOC
>11:18:35 >>> USER anonymous
>11:18:35 <<< 331 Guest login ok, send e-mail address as password.
>11:18:35 >>> PASS ********
>11:18:35 <<< 530-The response 'BTITMARS@ESOC' is not valid
>             530-Please use your e-mail address as your password
>             530-   for example: [e-mail] or joe@
>             530-[puiptest.Princeton.EDU will be added if password en
>             ds with @]
>             530 Login incorrect.

[stuff deleted]

For all those accessing imbrium.geo.brown.edu... yes it is anonymous
FTP, but since I allow uploads it's a little picky about the E-Mail
address.  When it asks for the password one only has to type in his/her
userid (i.e. 'robinson') and the @ sign... i.e.

imbrium.geo.brown.edu> login anonymous
331 Guest login ok, send e-mail address as password.
password: robinson@

That's it... sorry the FTP server is so picky, but I'm trying to
provide a useful service i.e upload/download privileges, while
*trying* to have *some* security... note that this "password" system
can still be circumvented and I know that.   ;->

Sorry for any hassles, but it's worth it!

Regards, Darrin, N1LLV
#include <std_disclaimer.h>
=============================================================================
=  Darrin E. Robinson (DER31) =    Hamnet     N1LLV  146.700-, 146.880- MHz =
=  VAX/VMS and Sun Manager    =    Internet   [e-mail] =
=  Brown University           =               [e-mail]    =
=  Providence, R.I. 02912     =    SPAN(et)   PGGIPL::ROBINSON (Node 7132)  =
=  AT&Tnet: [phone]    =    Nasamail   [e-mail]  =
=============================================================================

------------------------------

Date: 10 Jul 92 05:35:59 GMT
From: csus.edu!netcomsv!mork![e-mail]
Subject: OS/2 and Ham radio?
To: [e-mail]

In all this information that we apparently seem too stupid to see does it
provide any on how to use the ether for amature telecommunications? Can I
put a modem across it and get internet connection?  The baud post seems
to so indicate.  Hell, 56Kb will support me in my fantasy remote mountain
valley far from the madding crowd.

If you snag this please email me a copy too.

Thanks,

Bob

--
Bob Cain    [e-mail]   408-358-2007

"I used to be different.  But now I'm the same."

-----------------------------Cut Here-------uuencoded PGP public key------------
begin 777 bobskey.pub
MF94 5S,]*@]#86EN+"!2;V)E<G0@1R[> UMJE5ZN*DO<<)):/WKE?;3M<E&7
M!&L$0$W=OL#! JIKU8/,MODA=\2NT)=R2&XV-=&Z]KK>()OC9UE%AMOI\R$.
MU6':ACO9^#Y-%VJH:X>IE[Z0X]XU,_\&YO;IXTF2A%#%3?>%^]%Y9&)/Z1L?
1O<*EPVIF5 /-/B$+["<% !&0

end
----DO NOT USE THIS----------Cut Here--------ON A MULTI-USER SYSTEM-------------
-----DO NOT SEND ME A KEY THAT WILL BE USED ON A MULTI-USER SYSTEM--------------

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1992 20:12:40 GMT
From: usc!rpi![e-mail]
Subject: Small TNC's
To: [e-mail]

Does anyone know the phone# of Pac-Comm and Heath.
I want to price out the small (pocket) sized TNCs

Also.. Can anyone think of other manufacturers of pocket TNCs?
Thanks!
-joel

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Packet-Radio Digest         Sat, 11 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 185

Today's Topics:
          HAPN4800 modem info,expirience PLS
            L.L. Grace DSP-12 experience?
            macintosh softkiss vers 1.2.1

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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1992 09:00:33 GMT
From: darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!etec.uni-karlsruhe.de![e-mail]
Subject: HAPN4800 modem info,expirience PLS
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Johan. K. Reinalda) writes:
|> George mentions the docs for the hapn 4800 Bd modem are in Dutch.
|> If there is enough interest, i'd be willing to translate this
|> to English (seeing as i am a native Dutch speaker :-)
|>
|> Johan, WG7J

This would be very great, Johan!

73s
Olaf, dc1ik.

------------------------------

Date: 10 Jul 92 14:02:41 GMT
From: idacrd![e-mail]
Subject: L.L. Grace DSP-12 experience?
To: [e-mail]



------------------------------

Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1992 22:24:05 -0400
From: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: macintosh softkiss vers 1.2.1
To: [e-mail]

SoftKiss is an init/cdev/driver that drives a ham radio
modem from a macintosh. It gets your mac on packet radio
without a tnc.  Softkiss can use poor mans packet modems
from the IBMPC world.  This is version 1.2.1.  The previous
version was an application which required multifinder.  This
version is an init/cdev/driver that can run under finder or
multifinder on any mac system 6.x or 7.x.

Softkiss is available from internet host akutaktak.andrew.cmu.edu
[128.2.35.1] as /aw0g/softkiss.1.2.1.hqx.  It is also on compuserv
hamnet sig

NET/Mac is also required.  It is available from the same archives.

------------------------------

Date: (null)
From: (null)
I can't help you there.

> What other (if any) DSP-based modems are there on the market now?
>


There is AEA's DSP1232 (soon to be available in stores) and the fully dual
ported version the DSP2232 which is available in stores (at least in the US)
now.

After you buy all the options which make the DSP-12 support downloadable
new code, the package of source for the host code (no documentation except
minimal supplied by others, not LL Grace), the  DSP-12 and the DSP-1232
will be the same price.  You will not get source for the host code with the
DSP-1232, but you wouldn't want it.  It is for the HD64180 and only Steve
Stuart, N6IA, AEA's wizard has been able to get that thing to hum.  I wrote
the DSP code for the DSP engine in the AEA product.


> 73 de Ora, DJ0MAR

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1992 07:01:08 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!metro!extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: HAPN4800 modem info,expirience PLS

[e-mail] (Olaf Erb) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Johan. K. Reinalda) writes:
>|> George mentions the docs for the hapn 4800 Bd modem are in Dutch.
>|> If there is enough interest, i'd be willing to translate this
>|> to English (seeing as i am a native Dutch speaker :-)
>|>
>|> Johan, WG7J

>This would be very great, Johan!

My HAPN docs were in English.

Terry


--
Terry Dawson, [e-mail], [e-mail]
[phone] (voice), [phone] (fax).   __\*/__  0^Ooooo   _____

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Packet-Radio Digest         Sun, 12 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 186

Today's Topics:
           Connecting Lan-Link ver 2.0 to PK232 MBX
            L.L. Grace DSP-12 experience?
              More ARP questions
           Packet + Amiga + disks on funet

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Date: 11 Jul 1992 06:32:07 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Connecting Lan-Link ver 2.0 to PK232 MBX
To: [e-mail]

I have acquired the latest version of Lan-Link, and have set it up
as the documents suggest. I used Packratt II to set parity to none,
word length to 8 bits and Tbaud to 1200. I could not find any indication
in the 232 docs as to how to set the stop bit. I assume the 232 is set at
1 as per the op. manual ( page 2-7). I installed Lan-Link using the same
parameters - and was unable to get any response from the 232 when commands
were sent. In fact I had to pull the battery jumper a number of times
in order to reset the 232 in order to get Packratt II to communicate to
the 232 afterwards. Once or twice in Lan - Link I did get the 232's request
for a "   *  " to be typed for the auto baud procedure - but in doing so
in lan-link - the 232 did not respond ( typing only * as well as F
9 and
* ). Is there a command or procedure I'm missing - I've followed the
rec's in the lan-link doc re battery etc. Comments abnd suggestions
would be welcome. Please E Mail to  [e-mail]. I will summarize
responses.
73 Dave Seeler

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 92 00:08:55 GMT
From: netcomsv!mork![e-mail]
Subject: L.L. Grace DSP-12 experience?
To: [e-mail]

I received PLENTY of material with the Grace unit!  If fact, I received
the DSP source code!  MINIMAL software?  I wish ALL my electronic toy
vendors offered the source code...

--joe

------------------------------

Date: 11 Jul 92 07:34:53 GMT
From: pacbell.com!pacbell!osc![e-mail]
Subject: More ARP questions
To: [e-mail]

Thanks to those who pointed out that ARP PUBLISH was the way to help me
use a second PC, with no TNC, connected via SLIP to a PC with a TNC, both
running NOS.  Indeed, when I ARP PUBLISH the IP address of the non-TNC
machine and associate it with the AX25 callsign of the TNC-equipped PC,
then the machine with the TNC does indeed intercept packets destined for
the IP address of the "off-air" PC.  So far, so good, except...

The only way I have successfully made connections from the non-TNC PC is
to do an "ARP ADD <off air IP address> AX25 <off air link (AX25) address>".
This overwrites the "ARP PUBLISH <off air IP address> AX25 <on air AX25
call>" that is needed to respond to further ARP requests.  From my
perspective of relative ignorance, it seems quite reasonable to want to
publish one address resolution ("map this IP address to my machine with
a radio") yet act on a different address resolution locally ("now that
you have the data, send it along the SLIP link").  But this would require
that ARP PUBLISH and ARP ADD would simultaneously be supported for the
same IP address, with very different semantics.  Clealy this is not the
case in NOS, so I must be doing something wrong.

Sorry for the convoluted explanation. Can anyone help with a workaround?
73, Dave WQ1K%K3MC.CA.USA.NA (AMPRNet) and [e-mail] (Internet)

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1992 18:35:35 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ennews!gtephx![e-mail]
Subject: Packet + Amiga + disks on funet
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Peter Hardie) writes:
> -> From: [e-mail] (John Heaton)
> ->
> -> Some time ago I was given 6 disks of Amateur Radio related programs, and
> -> archived them up using LHWarp.  The 6 archives were ftp'ed to funet.fi,
> -> but I can't remember what the exact pathname was....
> ->
> -> John.
>
> I downloaded them all and only disks 1 and 4 would unpack properly. These


> 73 de Pete VE5VA
> [e-mail]

I just looked at funet.fi. I couldn't find anything that looked like these files.
Could you tell me their name and path?
Thanks


______
  /ony Baca, AG Communication Systems, Phoenix, Arizona
UUCP: ...!{ncar!noao!enuucp | uunet!samsung!romed!enuucp | att}!gtephx!bacat
Internet: gtephx![e-mail]   Fido Net: 1:114/52
Packet: WV7I @ KB7TV.AZ.USA.NA
Work: 602-581-4681        FAX: [phone]

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Packet-Radio Digest         Mon, 13 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 187

Today's Topics:
                  MacModems
              More ARP questions
             newsgroup as digest?
           Packet + Amiga + disks on funet
        Problems with BAYCOM; help welcome...

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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1992 22:24:52 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!destroyer!news.iastate.edu!IASTATE.EDU![e-mail]
Subject: MacModems
To: [e-mail]

In the new version of softkiss 1.2.1 there is a very inexpensive modem
for the mac (Not PMP) Does anyone know anything about this modem.
I am a college student and very poor, so very inexpensive things
interes me.

Richard Bassett (N2MIX)
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1992 13:06:35 GMT
From: usc!rpi!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!psinntp!psinntp!ncrlnk!ciss!lawday![e-mail]
Subject: More ARP questions
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (David Gilmour) writes:

[discussion of proxy arp trimmed]

>The only way I have successfully made connections from the non-TNC PC is
>to do an "ARP ADD <off air IP address> AX25 <off air link (AX25) address>".
>This overwrites the "ARP PUBLISH <off air IP address> AX25 <on air AX25
>call>" that is needed to respond to further ARP requests.  From my
>perspective of relative ignorance, it seems quite reasonable to want to
>publish one address resolution ("map this IP address to my machine with
>a radio") yet act on a different address resolution locally ("now that
>you have the data, send it along the SLIP link").  But this would require
>that ARP PUBLISH and ARP ADD would simultaneously be supported for the
>same IP address, with very different semantics.  Clealy this is not the
>case in NOS, so I must be doing something wrong.

Here's an example from my autoexec.nos which routes and publishes for a
unix machine connected via ethernet.  I've used the same seteup for slip
links, as well:

-----------------------------
# COM1 -- 256 byte MTU, 2400 baud
attach asy 0x3f8 4 ax25 vhf 2048 256 2400 [44.70.12.35]

# using a weird address for the ethernet card
attach packet 0x60 ether 5 1500
ifconfig ether ipaddr [44.70.200.200]

# You need at least one routing command; if your only radio is on vhf,
# this'll do it.
route add default vhf

# now we route to unix machine
route add 44.70.12.34 ether
arp publish 44.70.12.34 ax25 ag9v

The unix machine needs to have a "route add gateway" statement telling
it to route everything out the ethernet to [44.70.12.35].

With this setup, you're in business.  Note a couple of things:  NOS
supports a separate ip address for each interface; that's the standard
way things work in the real world.  Using a separate address for each
interface makes things logically cleaner, but there's no absolute reason
the vhf and ether interfaces here couldn't have used the same address.
It's just a matter of telling the unix box where to send its packets.

Since the ethernet address [44.70.200.200] never shows up on the air, I
just grabbed it at random.  You <do> need to have at least two addresses
on the system, of course;  one for the gateway machine, and one for the
hidden machine.

Hope this helps...

John   AG9V

--
John R. Ackermann, Jr.        Law Department, NCR Corporation, Dayton, Ohio
[phone]                [e-mail]
Packet Radio: ag9v@n8acv      tcp/ip: [e-mail] [44.70.12.34]

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 92 12:50:07 mst
From: sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ennews!stjhmc![e-mail]
Subject: newsgroup as digest?
To: [e-mail]

I understand that this newsgroup is also distributed as a daily digest.

How do I subscribe to the digest format?

david


--
   -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Internet: [e-mail]    FAX: [phone]
      Bitnet: ATW1H @ ASUACAD                     FidoNet=> 1:114/15
        Amateur Packet ax25: [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1992 13:14:25 GMT
From: mcsun!ieunet!tcdcs!maths.tcd.ie![e-mail]
Subject: Packet + Amiga + disks on funet
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Tony Baca) writes:

>I just looked at funet.fi. I couldn't find anything that looked like
>these files.  Could you tell me their name and path?

They're on nic.funet.fi in /pub/ham/amiga called ham[123456].lhw

As an earlier poster pointed out, they don't seem to unpack properly.
However, if you use a program such as "FixDisk", you can retrieve all
the data on them. They're quite old - circa 1988.

I'm completely clueless about packet, I'm just an SWL investigating how
to hook up my Amiga to radios. I'd appreciate any Amiga owners out there
letting me know about their software/hardware setup.

Regards,
--
Karl Jeacle  EI1169           //
                \X/       [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Jul 92 02:06:44 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!manuel!rsphy7.anu.edu.au![e-mail]
Subject: Problems with BAYCOM; help welcome...
To: [e-mail]

I have problems with the BAYCOM software (ver. 1.50a). After having
connected to a remote node, I receive one packet and then, after some
delay, get disconnected. Other people don't get disconnected; myself I
had no trouble working PMP with the same node. I suspect that my
software doesn't send something (RR packet?) and the connection just
times out. In my SCC.INI I have the <maxfram> parameter set to 1...

    Here are my questions:

1.      Can anybody refer me to the version of BAYCOM which WORKED FOR HIM (I
can FTP it easily if it's posted anywhere);
2.      Did anybody see a manual for the version 1.50? I'm using the manual
from ver. 1.2 I think, which doesn't mention many entries in my
    SCC.INI file;
3.      Any hints in this particular problem?

Thanks in advance, Marek vk1kam

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Packet-Radio Digest         Tue, 14 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 188

Today's Topics:
             9600 bps on a Kenwood TM-531
           AmigaNOS and the A2232 (2 msgs)
             Beginning Advice...
         Beginning advice wanted... (2 msgs)
               Data Engine info please
                 KAM and KISS
                  Mac-BAYCOM
                TNC-1
       Which issue of which mag had TNC-to-HT article?

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Date: 13 Jul 1992 04:49:44 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: 9600 bps on a Kenwood TM-531
To: [e-mail]


Hello all,

I am posting this for a friend.... Please don't reply to this address...


From: pe1nat@pe1nat (Ed)
To: pa2aga%pi8hvh@pi8yrc
Subject: tm531 <> 9600bd mod (prdigest)

To use the Kenwood TM531 with a g3ruh 9600 Baud modem:

1.      PLL-unit modifiation:
    Change R56 to 3k.
    Change C56, 57 to 10uF/10v.

2.      Main board:
    Remove C55, 70, 118.

3.      TXA:
    TXA via 150k to MO (pll-unit).

4.      RXA:
    RXA to pin 12 ic2 (main board).

5.      Change C34 (ruh board) to 1uF (mkm).

6.      You'll need a eprom COA.

7.      Solder a ptc (siemens b30-0845-05 (60 Gr. Celius)),
    on the VCO-unit.

Let me know if your work is also succesfully...

73's, Ed. pe1nat.

-----

Adam van Gaalen ([e-mail]  )
        ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: 13 Jul 92 22:35:44 GMT
From: microsoft!hexnut![e-mail]
Subject: AmigaNOS and the A2232
To: [e-mail]

[these comments apply to AmigaNOS 2.9b (I think that's the most recent
version)]

I obtained the latest version of AmigaNOS from ucsd.edu, hoping that
the most recent version corrects some problems I've been observing.

Unfortunately, it doesn't, but they're not fatal, just annoying.

First off, when AmigaNOS exits, it forgets to free one signal.
Easy fix -- just include the call to FreeSignal, which I've done
on my own private version.  (I spotted this with the help of
WShell 2.0 -- if you program on the Amiga and don't have this, for
shame!  Run right out and buy it.)

Second -- Why is the serial port being opened with SERF_RAD_BOOGIE?
This is only necessary if you're doing MIDI (or, I suppose, 56K
packet).  The code includes a /* ? */ comment when it sets the flag,
so I guess the person that ported doesn't quite know why it's being
done either.  The SERF_RAD_BOOGIE flag disables some internal checking --
I removed the flag, and it seems to work fine (but then, I only used
it at 9600 baud -- hardly MIDI speed).

Third: I had no end of problems getting AmigaNOS to work, until I noticed
that I only seemed to have problems when I used a port on my A2232
7 serial port board.  When I used the built-in serial port, everything
worked great.  Specifically, it looked like the serial port wouldn't
send anything to the program until some buffer overflowed.  Anybody
else have experience with this?

Fourth: It would be nice if instead of opening windows on the workbench,
it would open them on the default public screen.  This is an easy fix
as well -- set the PUBLIC_SCREEN bit in the NewWindow structure.  (well,
that may not be EXACTLY it, but it is simple.  This is another fix I've
done privately)

Fifth: (This is merely a peeve) It would be nice if AmigaNOS used the Amiga's
inherently multitasking OS instead of the internal task switching hack
(not an insult) carried over from the PC.  Looking over the code, this
looks like a major task for anyone without intimate familiarity with
the NOS code (which I, regretably, don't have), but I believe it would
clean things up immensly.

Sixth: (this is pure blue sky) Re-writing the various pieces of AmigaNOS
as a full-blown AmigaOS device would be very cool -- Any extensions
can then be distributed as stand-alone executables, without the hassle
of recompiling the entire NOS executable just to add a little bit of
functionality.  I think this has been brought up before.

Anyway, AmigaNOS is, in general, a very fine program.  Hopefully some
of my suggestions can be incorporated into the next version.

(Of course, this is meant for g1yyh (I think that's it) in specific,
and the net in general.  I would have sent it directly to g1yyh, but
all I have is a packet address)

dave

[e-mail]
n7xjc @ n7iij.wa.usa.na

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Date: 14 Jul 92 03:43:26 GMT
From: swrinde!mips!darwin.sura.net!haven.umd.edu!ni.umd.edu!sayshell.umd.edu![e-mail]
Subject: AmigaNOS and the A2232
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (David D. Brown) writes:
>[these comments apply to AmigaNOS 2.9b (I think that's the most recent
>version)]

I did the original port of AmigaNOS, which has since been picked up
by someone else.  That's real good, since I no longer own an Amiga.

>Second -- Why is the serial port being opened with SERF_RAD_BOOGIE?
>This is only necessary if you're doing MIDI (or, I suppose, 56K
>packet).  The code includes a /* ? */ comment when it sets the flag,
>so I guess the person that ported doesn't quite know why it's being
>done either.  The SERF_RAD_BOOGIE flag disables some internal checking --
>I removed the flag, and it seems to work fine (but then, I only used
>it at 9600 baud -- hardly MIDI speed).

The intent was to make the serial device driver work as fast and
efficiently as possible.  I didn't see any point in it doing anything
clever at all, like checking parity or stuff.

>Third: I had no end of problems getting AmigaNOS to work, until I noticed
>that I only seemed to have problems when I used a port on my A2232
>7 serial port board.  When I used the built-in serial port, everything
>worked great.  Specifically, it looked like the serial port wouldn't
>send anything to the program until some buffer overflowed.  Anybody
>else have experience with this?

AmigaNOS sets the termination character array to the SLIP framing character
0xC0, and puts up an I/O request for the maximum sized frame.  That way,
the number of context switches is significantly reduced and the the user's
process is only woken up when I has to do something, rather than look at
every characters.  The problem seems to be that (I've heard) the device
dricer for the A2232 many not support that function (the termination
character array).

>Fourth: It would be nice if instead of opening windows on the workbench,
>it would open them on the default public screen.  This is an easy fix
>as well -- set the PUBLIC_SCREEN bit in the NewWindow structure.  (well,
>that may not be EXACTLY it, but it is simple.  This is another fix I've
>done privately)

Gee, last time I had an amiga with version 1.2, didn't have anything like
that!

>Fifth: (This is merely a peeve) It would be nice if AmigaNOS used the Amiga's
>inherently multitasking OS instead of the internal task switching hack
>(not an insult) carried over from the PC.  Looking over the code, this
>looks like a major task for anyone without intimate familiarity with
>the NOS code (which I, regretably, don't have), but I believe it would
>clean things up immensly.

This most certaily will NOT work.  The tasking package used in NOS
assumes that the processes run to completion or until they volunarily
give up control.  This assumption is implicit in the way the the
various processes in NOS access shared data structures.  Since the
amiga OS's processes time slice, you'd have to find *all* the places
that shared data exists and add locking primitives around them.  This would
then make your version of NOS completely unique and non-portable.

>Sixth: (this is pure blue sky) Re-writing the various pieces of AmigaNOS
>as a full-blown AmigaOS device would be very cool -- Any extensions
>can then be distributed as stand-alone executables, without the hassle
>of recompiling the entire NOS executable just to add a little bit of
>functionality.  I think this has been brought up before.

I starting thinking about this real, real hard and came to the
conclusion that what I really wanted was a real UNIX box.  So now I
have a NeXTstation and not an Amiga.  I never got very far.

>Anyway, AmigaNOS is, in general, a very fine program.  Hopefully some
>of my suggestions can be incorporated into the next version.

One of my prime goals when I was hacking early AmigaNET and AmigaNOS
was to maintain compatibility with the base source code as much as
possible to allow easy upgrades to new versions and to be able to
feedback the changes that I make to Phil for inclusion in subsequent
versions.  I'm not at all familiar with what happend to AmigaNOS after
I stopped working on it, and if that's the case any longer or not.

>(Of course, this is meant for g1yyh (I think that's it) in specific,
>and the net in general.  I would have sent it directly to g1yyh, but
>all I have is a packet address)

Yeah, and just one more thing.  Before anyone asks, I *don't* have
*any* bits of my versions of AmigaNOS left.  I don't have an Amiga or
any way to make disks.  I still get random requests for the code due
to some old QST article, but they've tapered off...  G1YYH is, I
belive, the definitive source for later AmigaNOS versions.

73,

louie WA3YMH

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Date: 13 Jul 1992 16:53:47 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Beginning Advice...
To: [e-mail]

The 1270B has an HF modem but lacks the HF tuning indicator.  Aside from that,
I think they're the same TNC.

Most of the 2M packet stuff I see around here is still 1200 bps;  I don't
really know:  Is 2400 (or above) legal on 2M?

-Ken Johnson.    KC4YOZ

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Date: 13 Jul 92 20:32:18 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!msus1.msus.edu!vax1.mankato.msus.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Beginning advice wanted...
To: [e-mail]

Simple question for all of you. I'm just about to get started in packet radio.
My dad is just about at the point where he is just about to send pains of
change through his body and use his computer in conjunction with his Kenwood
TS-440S. :) Therefore, he is very green on this subject and most of the people
he knows don't delve into packet either.

I was wondering what people suggest for just starting out. I have a very good
background in computers and networking so feel free to be as technical as you
want.

I'm going to be running this thing off an old Apple //e and primairly an IBM
compatible.

My basic questions are:

1) Is there really any significant differnces in the commands used to run the
different TNCs by Kantronics, MFJ, and AEA? or do most programs work with any
of them?  Is there enough differnce to justify the cost difference? Be
specific please.

2) I was thinking of skipping the multimode data controllers... Is this wise?
Is there that much use of AMTOR and everything else to justify the $100? If so,
what do they offer that packet does not?

3) I was thinking of the MFJ-1270B or the MFJ-1274. Am I correct that they are
basically the same but the 1270B is missing the HF modem?

4) I am seriously considering a 2400 baud modem for it, I would assume that
most out there now use 2400 baud? (1200 is to darn slow in my opinion.) Anyone
have a percentage approximation? For now, I'll hold off with the 9600 baud
modem.

5) what do you guys suggest for good programs to run the TNC with? I'm
interested in general chat, mailing, but also running TCP/IP over it.

If you have a better idea where to get information, just yell... And thanks for
your time!

-John Larson
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Mankato State Univ     Currently located in
        Mankato, MN            the twin cities...

 [e-mail]  or  [e-mail]

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Date: 13 Jul 92 16:09:04 MDT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Beginning advice wanted...
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:

[bunches 'o stuff deleted]

My mailer doesn't reconginze your address, so I have to waste bandwidth..

Could you send me the info that you recieve?? I currently use a C-64 and a
Heath HD-4040 for packet, but I am going to be buying an IBM clone shortly,
and I need to know what stuff I need to get to stay up and running.

Thanks, and 73 de Dan N7NKR

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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1992 16:16:43 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!mips!darwin.sura.net!ukma!lexmark!lexmark.com![e-mail]
Subject: Data Engine info please
To: [e-mail]

I just won a Data Engine this past weekend.  Lucky stiff, right....
Anyway, am looking for access to the KA9Q DIGEST, which i understand
has some Data Engine appends in it.  Any other info that might be
useful would be much appreciated!  Feel free to email to me at
[e-mail] also.  Thanks, tyler.

------------------------------

Date: 13 Jul 92 08:18:53 EDT
From: psinntp![e-mail]
Subject: KAM and KISS
To: [e-mail]

I just begain running a version of NOS with my Kantronics KAM. Does
anyone know how to place the KAM into the KISS mode with a command
from AUTOEXEC.NOS? I tried: comm ax0 "kiss on" followed by comm ax0
"reset," but it didn't work.

Any ideas?

Steve, WB8IMY

------------------------------

Date: 13 Jul 92 19:06:25 GMT
From: biosys!cosmid.apldbio.com![e-mail]
Subject: Mac-BAYCOM
To: [e-mail]

Some time ago someone posted a note about running BAYCOM on a MAC which
was running SoftPC.  I confirm that BAYCOM wakes up.  However, the poster
failed to note how he/she was making the connections to the outside world,
since the MAC doesn't support things like CTS, etc in an obvious way.

Would the previous poster please contact me via email regarding if they
managed to get BAYCOM completely up and running?   Thanks much.

73

Mal             (WA2UNP, Berkeley, CA)

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Date: 13 Jul 92 11:49:02 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!nigel.msen.com!yale.edu!jvnc.net!netnews.upenn.edu!uofs!falcon.cs.uofs.edu![e-mail]
Subject: TNC-1
To: [e-mail]

Is there anyone out there with a TNC-1 sitting around collecting dust
that they would like to get rid of??  I would like to get my hands on
a couple TNC-1's in order to try writing some new firmware for them.

Any takers??

bill    KB3YV

--

     Bill Gunshannon          |        If this statement wasn't here,
     [e-mail]   |  This space would be left intentionally blank
     [e-mail]    |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>

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Date: 13 Jul 92 16:02:47 GMT
From: das.wang.com!wang![e-mail]
Subject: Which issue of which mag had TNC-to-HT article?
To: [e-mail]

Someone mentioned that there was a recent article in 73(?) that covered
connecting several TNC's to various HT's.  Does anyone know which/when?

I have been trying to get my HTX-202 working with an HD-4040 TNC.  I have
gotten mucho help from the net after my previous posting for help.  A puplic
thanks to those who helped.

The problem I have is that the HTX-202 won't key up with anything larger than
a 2.2K resistor and that seems to attenuate the signal too much.  One of the
nice gentlemen who helped me out mentioned a possible alternative to the
resistor, but I thought that if the above article DID cover this particular
issue I could save some trial and error time.

73

Dave, N1MXV

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End of Packet-Radio Digest V92 #188
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 92 04:30:04 PDT
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Subject: Packet-Radio Digest V92 #189
To: packet-radio


Packet-Radio Digest         Wed, 15 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 189

Today's Topics:
            Article about 9600 bps modems
             Beginning Advice... (3 msgs)
         Beginning advice wanted... (2 msgs)
                 FTP
                KISS on PK-232
           LZW compression on SMTP Help PSE
               MFJ-1270B & G3RUH Modems
             SunOS version of KA9Q sought
              W2A to PCB-88 TNC
       Which issue of which mag had TNC-to-HT article?

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1992 05:15:33 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!mips!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!math.fu-berlin.de!zrz.tu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!fauern!LRZnews!bauv106!bauv106![e-mail]
Subject: Article about 9600 bps modems
To: [e-mail]

Hello !

Where can I find the article about the G3RUH modem ? Information
about other 9600 bps designs are welcome too.

Thanks
Claude, DJ0OT

------------------------------

Date: 14 Jul 1992 18:18:43 GMT
From: ucsd.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Beginning Advice...
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Ken Johnson) writes:
>Most of the 2M packet stuff I see around here is still 1200 bps;  I don't
>really know:  Is 2400 (or above) legal on 2M?

Yes.  2400 bps is a waste of effort, but there's a small number of people
running at 9600 bps on 2m scattered around the country.
    - Brian

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1992 19:02:21 GMT
From: usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.columbia.edu!cunixb.cc.columbia.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Beginning Advice...
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Brian Kantor) writes:
>[e-mail] (Ken Johnson) writes:
>>Most of the 2M packet stuff I see around here is still 1200 bps;  I don't
>>really know:  Is 2400 (or above) legal on 2M?
>
>Yes.  2400 bps is a waste of effort, but there's a small number of people
>running at 9600 bps on 2m scattered around the country.

Is anybody running 9600 or faster?
Can anyone tell me about TCP/IP in the NYC area?

I would like to get some IP numbers, because several members of the Columbia
University Amateur Radio Club want to experiment with it.  I would like to
get suggestions on the cheapest/most effective/most compatible/best setups
for starting out from scratch.  Does anyone have recommendations on a modem
standard?  How easy is it to mosify a stock HT?

All information is much appreciated.

Thank you very much.
Meir

 * * * * *  =================  Internet address is   [e-mail]
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 * * * * *  =================  UUCP Bang!            columbia.edu!mig
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Date: 15 Jul 92 02:34:57 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken!iggy.GW.Vitalink.COM!widener!beyonet![e-mail]
Subject: Beginning Advice...
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Ken Johnson) writes:
>Most of the 2M packet stuff I see around here is still 1200 bps;  I don't
>really know:  Is 2400 (or above) legal on 2M?

Check out SS. 97.307(f) "Emission Standards"

Frequency             Max Data Speed
--------------------------------------------------------
1.80 - 24.93  MHz       300   baud      = Below 10m
28.0 - 28.3   MHz       1200  baud      = 10m
50.1 - 148    MHz       19.6k baud      = 6m & 2m
222  - 450    MHz       56k   baud      = 1.25 & 70cm
902 and above MHz       unlimited       = Above 70cm

>-Ken Johnson.    KC4YOZ

Steve
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Date: 14 Jul 92 14:48:41 GMT
From: swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!spacm1.spac.spc.com!xenon!skyld![e-mail]
Subject: Beginning advice wanted...
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> you write:

  > 1) Is there really any significant differnces in the commands used

  Not really. Packet is Packet and a MAJORITY of the commands are the same.

  > 2) I was thinking of skipping the multimode data controllers...

  Gasp! You mean you're not going to run out and buy the PK-232 just to test?
  Actually a VERY wise choice for beginning packet (ie not multi-mode)

  > 3) I was thinking of the MFJ-1270B or the MFJ-1274.

  No, they are identical except that the 12764 has a tuning indicator.
  This REALLY helps with HF packet. They both do HF packet.

  > 4) I am seriously considering a 2400 baud modem for it,

  Don't bother. THere's not enough 2400 users out there. Run with 1200
  and get a feel for Packet, then make the jump to 9600 (cheap to do)

  > 5) what do you guys suggest for good programs to run the TNC with?

  Just about ANY terminal program. Procomm, etc. works FINE for packet. The
  TNC's are designed to be interfaced with a dumb terminal. If you're going
  to run TCP/IP, I suggest running one of the PA0GRI or PE1CHL variants.

  Personal suggestions for equipment: Buy a PacComm Tiny-2. The manual is WELL
  written. The Tiny-2 is a TNC-2 clone and the aftermarket EPROM firmware will
  work in it. WA8DED's host and net/rom firmware, and TAPR KISS EPROMS drop
  right into it. Second bet would be the MFJ-1270b for the same reasons. If you
  want to run HF packet, get the 1274 since it has the tuning indicator! Also,
  all of the above are SIMPLE to upgrade to 9600 baud.

  For further questions/answers/opinions see the sig text.

--
xenon!skyld!jangus   < This space left blank intentionally. >
J Angus, PO Box 4425, Carson CA 90749-4425 voice [phone]

------------------------------

Date: 14 Jul 92 23:29:18 GMT
From: swrinde!gatech!gatech!kd4nc!ke4zv![e-mail]
Subject: Beginning advice wanted...
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>I was wondering what people suggest for just starting out. I have a very good
>background in computers and networking so feel free to be as technical as you
>want.
>
>I'm going to be running this thing off an old Apple //e and primairly an IBM
>compatible.
>
>My basic questions are:
>
>1) Is there really any significant differnces in the commands used to run the
>different TNCs by Kantronics, MFJ, and AEA? or do most programs work with any
>of them?  Is there enough differnce to justify the cost difference? Be
>specific please.

The basic firmware command sets divide into Kantronics vs everyone else.
In addition, the multimode controllers have their own unique commands.
If you are satisfied to interact with the firmware command set, then
any terminal program will work. Some TNCs, AEA PK-232 for example, have
a special "host" mode that is designed to be software friendly. Thus there
are specialized programs that talk to specific TNCs in this host mode.
AEA's PC Packratt program is an example. IMHO the firmware differences
are *not* worth extra cost.

>2) I was thinking of skipping the multimode data controllers... Is this wise?
>Is there that much use of AMTOR and everything else to justify the $100? If so,
>what do they offer that packet does not?

On *HF*, AMTOR is superior to packet for thruput. It's in wide use
worldwide. RTTY is still in common use as well, though it doesn't
offer any error detection. On VHF and above, packet dominates.

>3) I was thinking of the MFJ-1270B or the MFJ-1274. Am I correct that they are
>basically the same but the 1270B is missing the HF modem?

The only difference between these two TNCs is the tuning indicator. Both
will work at HF.

>4) I am seriously considering a 2400 baud modem for it, I would assume that
>most out there now use 2400 baud? (1200 is to darn slow in my opinion.) Anyone
>have a percentage approximation? For now, I'll hold off with the 9600 baud
>modem.

2400 baud offers little thruput advantage due to the protocol and
turnaround overhead. Typical thruput improvement for 2400 baud over 1200
baud is less than 25%. Aside from use on the DX spotting Packetcluster,
2400 baud TNCs are uncommon. The majority of VHF use remains at 1200 baud
with the next worthwhile speed stepup at 9600 baud. Thruput increases of
two to three times are typical with 9600 baud. Packet is an ARQ protocol
with fixed header overhead and *half duplex* channel turnaround overhead.
With normal single line per packet transmissions, the delays are longer
than the data. Channel sharing further reduces the thruput. Going to maximum
length frames can improve thruput fairly dramatically on a nonshared channel.
On a busy shared channel, effective thruput can drop below 50 baud. There
is no correspondence with full duplex telephone modem performance.

>5) what do you guys suggest for good programs to run the TNC with? I'm
>interested in general chat, mailing, but also running TCP/IP over it.

For a standard TNC with standard firmware, any telcom program is fine.
ProComm is popular. There are programs written especially for packet
use, but they offer little real advantage. For TCP/IP use, you need
KISS firmware in the TNC and KA9Q NOS as the operating software. Most
of the new TNCs offer a KISS mode in their firmware, but I prefer to
replace the firmware ROM with an optimized KISS only ROM. That way
there is no danger that the TNC can unexpectedly drop out of KISS
mode during a session. All TAPR clones will accept the KISS firmware
ROM. Non-standard TNCs like Kantronics and the multimodes have to
depend on built in KISS modes. Note that there are problems with
some of these KISS implementations. There is no NOS for Apple IIe
systems.

Gary KE4ZV

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Date: 10 Jul 92 23:04:52 CST
From: usc!wupost!darwin.sura.net!tulane!agwbbs![e-mail]
Subject: FTP
To: [e-mail]

I am looking for a FTP SITE with the following files and the correct names:

BPQ 4.05B  - The Lastest version of G8BPQ Switching Software
ROSESWITCH - Lastest version of the eprom code to burn in
CHATNODE   - The Chatnode software made by the THENET People

Thanks again..

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

Internet:[e-mail]
  Usenet:rex!agwbbs!angelo_glorioso_III
  Packet:N5UXT @ N5UXT.#NOLA.LA.USA.NA
  Tcp/ip:N5UXT.AMPT.ORG  [44.108.2.13]

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1992 18:20:07 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!darwin.sura.net!gatech!ee.gatech.edu!eedsp.gatech.edu![e-mail]
Subject: KISS on PK-232
To: [e-mail]

I'd appreciate it if someone would send me the commands necessary to
put a PK-232MBX in KISS mode.  The tutorial to NOS I have includes
both the commands:
KISS ON
HOST ON

However, doing either one makes the TNC stop accepting commands.  I'd just
like to know from someone who actually does it what it takes and if these
commands can be put in autoexec.nos.

Oh, how do I get it out of KISS mode?  Doing a long power cycle does it
now, but I think my battery inside is dead.  What's the better way?

Thanks for the info and 73
Jeff

--
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Jeff Tucker                         N9HZQ, EMT-A
[e-mail]             Graduate Student, Electrical Engineering
May all your throws be bulls!       Georgia Institute of Technology

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Date: 14 Jul 92 11:45:50 GMT
From: pa.dec.com!rdg.dec.com!irnbru.enet.dec.com![e-mail]
Subject: LZW compression on SMTP Help PSE
To: [e-mail]

Hi,


I`m running NOS 2.0f (PA0GRI) and having some problems with SMTP.
When my SMTP system tries to forward a msg to another local amateur it tries
to solicit connection using LZW compression. This causes my friends system to
crash out or hang, is there any way of explicitly turning off LZW compression
on SMTP transfers !!!.

Incidently my friend is running AMIGANOS 2.8s (I think but not too sure on the
version).


Thanks in anticipation.

Robin Alexander.

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Date: 10 Jul 92 23:07:06 CST
From: usc!wupost!darwin.sura.net!tulane!agwbbs![e-mail]
Subject: MFJ-1270B & G3RUH Modems
To: [e-mail]

I was talking with a few Hams in Texas and they mentioned a Mod or a fix
for
the flicking of the DCD light on the MFJ-1270B with the G3ruh Modems.

Any help will be appreciated!!!

Thanks


-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

Internet:[e-mail]
  Usenet:rex!agwbbs!angelo_glorioso_III
  Packet:N5UXT @ N5UXT.#NOLA.LA.USA.NA
  Tcp/ip:N5UXT.AMPT.ORG  [44.108.2.13]

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Date: 14 Jul 1992 16:26:02 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: SunOS version of KA9Q sought
To: [e-mail]

    Some time ago, an FTP address was published pointing to a set of
instructions utilizing SunOS LWP to get KA9Q NOS running on a SPARC.
Due to a boneheaded slipup, I have lost the instructions and the
means of regaining them easily.  Would someone *please* send me one
of the following:

  1) the address of the instructions
  2) the above mentioned instructions
  3) the modified source
  4) instructions for modification of a later release of NOS
  5) an address where I can get the instructions to modify a later release
  6) an FTP address where I can get the modified source of a later release

I would be sincerely appreciative.
Reid

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1992 19:04:28 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!destroyer!news.iastate.edu!sysad.cnde.iastate.edu![e-mail]
Subject: W2A to PCB-88 TNC
To: [e-mail]

Could some one send me information on how to wire an ICOM W2-A to
a AEA PCB-88 ?

Thanks

--
Neil Johnson, N0SFH              | Systems Administrator
[e-mail]        | Center for Nondestructive Evaluation
[e-mail]  | Institute for Physical Research & Technology
[e-mail]                 | Iowa State University
                 | Ames, Iowa

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Date: 14 Jul 92 12:29:50 GMT
From: swrinde!gatech!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv![e-mail]
Subject: Which issue of which mag had TNC-to-HT article?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dave Jenkins) writes:
>
>The problem I have is that the HTX-202 won't key up with anything larger than
>a 2.2K resistor and that seems to attenuate the signal too much.  One of the
>nice gentlemen who helped me out mentioned a possible alternative to the
>resistor, but I thought that if the above article DID cover this particular
>issue I could save some trial and error time.

One of the best ways to interface one of these "leaky" ground PTT HTs to
a TNC is via a transformer. This works for Yaesu, Icom, and RS units.

TNC PTT--------))))))))----HT tip
           ========
TNC AF out-----))))))))-x--HT sleeve
            |
TNC Gnd-----------------|

Any 1:1 AF transformer will work. Radio Shack has several tiny ones in
a grab bag that do fine. Your TNC should have an audio output adjustment.
For TAPR style TNCs, you can get lots of drive. With Kantronics TNCs, you
may need to change a jumper on the TNC to get enough drive. Consult the
manual.

Gary KE4ZV

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Packet-Radio Digest         Thu, 16 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 190

Today's Topics:
             Beginning Advice...
                  lzw + smtp
           Packet + Amiga + disks on funet
            PK-232MBX & 9600 baud
               Regency HR 2 on packet?
               small TNC wanted

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Date: 15 Jul 92 16:03:51 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!src.honeywell.com![e-mail]
Subject: Beginning Advice...
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steve Urich) writes:
>[e-mail] (Ken Johnson) writes:
>>Most of the 2M packet stuff I see around here is still 1200 bps;  I don't
>>really know:  Is 2400 (or above) legal on 2M?
>
>Check out SS. 97.307(f) "Emission Standards"
>
>Frequency             Max Data Speed
>--------------------------------------------------------
>1.80 - 24.93  MHz      300   baud      = Below 10m
>28.0 - 28.3   MHz      1200  baud      = 10m
>50.1 - 148    MHz      19.6k baud      = 6m & 2m
>222  - 450    MHz      56k   baud      = 1.25 & 70cm
>902 and above MHz      unlimited       = Above 70cm

Putting a limit on the maximum data speed seems akin to putting a limit on
maximum fuel efficiency of automobiles.  I just don't see any reason for
it.  I can understand a limitation on *bandwidth*, but as long as you can
squeeze more throughput out of that bandwidth, more power to you!

Anyway, expressing the limitation in "baud" seems to leave the door open
for higher bit-per-second rates while staying within the letter of the
law.  The notion of "baud" isn't even clearly defined.  Many people argue
that Telebit's PEP protocol for land-line modems gets on the order of 15K
bps with only 7 "baud."

Nevertheless, I would hope that a proposal for a rule change in this area is
in the works.  If there was ever such a thing as a "victimless crime,"
this has got to be it :-)

--
Steve Kanefsky
N7YKG/AE

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Date: 15 Jul 1992 12:22:09 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: lzw + smtp
To: [e-mail]

sorry cant turn on/off lzw compression explicitly against a hostname
well not in gri code...
WNOS yes..
barry..

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Date: 15 Jul 92 16:46:20 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!mucs!nessie![e-mail]
Subject: Packet + Amiga + disks on funet
To: [e-mail]

I have ftp'd the 6 archives, but only had a CRC on one disk, and will make the
disks available on my PC 130.88.202.27, sometime over the next few days.  (and
I will make sure that they can be dearchived first!).

John.       G1YYH

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1992 06:12:51 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!mips!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!zrz.tu-berlin.de!math.fu-berlin.de!news.netmbx.de!Germany.EU.net!mcsun!fuug!funic!polaris!uwasa.fi![e-mail]
Subject: PK-232MBX & 9600 baud
To: [e-mail]

I've been trying to get my PK232MBX to work with G3RUH 9600 baud modem. I
know that TAPR sells a disconnect kit for PK232 and did consider buying it
first but the banks here in Finland rip you off when you buy foreign
currency in small amounts ;( I've got it working, well sort of, the only
problem is that it drops received characters now and then (about 5% of
total input). Does anyone have good ideas on how to cure this? I suspect
that the PK232MBX just isn't able to swallow all the data from the G3RUH
modem fast enough. My eprom is dated 1990, July I think.

So if you have any ideas how to help me on this I'd appreciate to hear
from you.

--
Markus Lamminmaki OH6LSA       [e-mail]
Fax:   [phone]        Ididn'tdoitnobodysawmeYoucan'tproveanything
Phone: [phone]

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1992 13:03:34 GMT
From: pacbell.com!att!att!cbnewsc![e-mail]
Subject: Regency HR 2 on packet?
To: [e-mail]

Can anyone advise on the use of a Regency HR2 rig for packet radio?

Since this rig uses a T/R relay I wonder if it will be suitable.

Gene Koeppe  WB9JAB  att!ihlpm!genek   [e-mail]

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Date: 15 Jul 92 13:35:05 GMT
From: swrinde!mips!darwin.sura.net!gatech!concert!ecsgate!lrc.edu![e-mail]
Subject: small TNC wanted
To: [e-mail]

Has anyone seen/used some of the tiny packet units?
I have heard that there are some about the size of a gender-changer,
and would like some details.  the idea is to get something small
that i can use with my notebook computer.

thanks.

neal george
[e-mail]
kd4qel

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Packet-Radio Digest         Fri, 17 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 191

Today's Topics:
            AmigaNOS and the A2232
         Anybody tried packet with Tandy 100?
     Hey you guys know if there's an repeater in the Detroit area
                KISS on PK-232
           Lan-Link ver 2.0, PK232MBX and Host Mode
              Need ROM upgrade?
    Packet repeater w/o regenerating the packets & stopping voice
              Pinouts on Pk-88 (2 msgs)
               Regency HR 2 on packet?
              SLFP packet driver
              small TNC wanted

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Date: 16 Jul 92 17:32:59 GMT
From: microsoft!hexnut![e-mail]
Subject: AmigaNOS and the A2232
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Louis A. Mamakos) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (David D. Brown) writes:
>>Third: I had no end of problems getting AmigaNOS to work, until I noticed
>>that I only seemed to have problems when I used a port on my A2232
>>7 serial port board.  When I used the built-in serial port, everything
>>worked great.  Specifically, it looked like the serial port wouldn't
>>send anything to the program until some buffer overflowed.  Anybody
>>else have experience with this?
>
>AmigaNOS sets the termination character array to the SLIP framing character
>0xC0, and puts up an I/O request for the maximum sized frame.  That way,
>the number of context switches is significantly reduced and the the user's
>process is only woken up when I has to do something, rather than look at
>every characters.  The problem seems to be that (I've heard) the device
>dricer for the A2232 many not support that function (the termination
>character array).

Others have confirmed that this was indeed the problem.

A workaround was also suggested:  Set the buffer size to 1. (yuk)

>>Fifth: (This is merely a peeve) It would be nice if AmigaNOS used the Amiga's
>>inherently multitasking OS instead of the internal task switching hack
>>(not an insult) carried over from the PC.  Looking over the code, this
>>looks like a major task for anyone without intimate familiarity with
>>the NOS code (which I, regretably, don't have), but I believe it would
>>clean things up immensly.
>
>This most certaily will NOT work.  The tasking package used in NOS
>assumes that the processes run to completion or until they volunarily
>give up control.  This assumption is implicit in the way the the
>various processes in NOS access shared data structures.  Since the
>amiga OS's processes time slice, you'd have to find *all* the places
>that shared data exists and add locking primitives around them.  This would
>then make your version of NOS completely unique and non-portable.

I don't think that work/NOT work enters into it.  When I first thought
of doing the conversion, I took all of the problems you mentioned
into consideration.  I was also not really that worried about maintaining
source code compatibilty -- my aim in adapting the code is different
than your original intent.  Not better, just different.  I like portable
code as much as the next guy, but nothing beats a program that has been
designed for a specific system.

On the other hand, it was exactly those problems that you mentioned that
made me decide that I really didn't have the time to dig into the
code.

>>Sixth: (this is pure blue sky) Re-writing the various pieces of AmigaNOS
>>as a full-blown AmigaOS device would be very cool -- Any extensions
>>can then be distributed as stand-alone executables, without the hassle
>>of recompiling the entire NOS executable just to add a little bit of
>>functionality.  I think this has been brought up before.
>
>I starting thinking about this real, real hard and came to the
>conclusion that what I really wanted was a real UNIX box.  So now I
>have a NeXTstation and not an Amiga.  I never got very far.

I'm not quite sure I follow that particular bit of reasoning...

As long as NOS, in its various incarnations, remains a monolithic program,
changes and additions will be painful.  If a group of people could get
together and provide device interfaces for the various platforms (a
device on the amiga, a device driver for MSDOS/Windows/OS/2, and
whatever the equivalent bit of software for a Mac is), we could keep
most of the machine peculiarities in the drivers and have a large
common application code base to work with.

To try to clarify the previous paragraph, a quick glance through the
NOS source code shows that a socket interface is used internally.
Unfortunately, the socket interface is only INTERNAL to NOS.  You can't
just take one of the many socket-based apps and link it with NOS's sockets --
you have to actually incorporate the app's code into the monolithic
structure, with the corresponding increase in memory footprint and
load time.  If we made the packet TCP/IP software interface public, it would
be simple to just use the features you want, without wasting memory with
features that aren't used.

>louie WA3YMH

Thanks for the reply...

73

dave N7XJC

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1992 21:19:25 GMT
From: stanford.edu!rock!taco!garfield.catt.ncsu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Anybody tried packet with Tandy 100?
To: [e-mail]

Has anybody tried mobile packet with a Tandy model 100?
Just curious.


Chris Blackmon, N4VGK           ||  In this business, you either lead, follow
[e-mail]           ||  or get the hell out of the way.

"pour aller ou personne n'est jamais alle'...."

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Date: 16 Jul 92 18:27:39 GMT
From: swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!m.cs.uiuc.edu!vela![e-mail]
Subject: Hey you guys know if there's an repeater in the Detroit area
To: [e-mail]

I think that's what my friend called it.  (I know nothing about ham, so don;t
jump down my throat)  He either called it a repeater or an autopatch.  It lets
one make phone calls over long distances on a ham radio.

Anyways, I'm trying to locate one in my area code so he can call me.  Area code
313, near Rochester Hills to be precise.

I really appreciate it if anyone can find one.  Thanks
later


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Date: 16 Jul 92 06:10:05 GMT
From: mcsun!fuug!funic!polaris!uwasa.fi![e-mail]
Subject: KISS on PK-232
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Jeff Tucker) writes:
> I'd appreciate it if someone would send me the commands necessary to
> put a PK-232MBX in KISS mode.  The tutorial to NOS I have includes
> both the commands:
> KISS ON
> HOST ON
>
> However, doing either one makes the TNC stop accepting commands.  I'd
just
> like to know from someone who actually does it what it takes and if
these
> commands can be put in autoexec.nos.

Yes, it should stop accepting commands right after the KISS ON command.
The PK-232 goes immideatly into KISS mode and you can start working with
NOS. You can put the KISS ON command in autoexec.nos but I have not done
that so I can't help you there. (I usually have my PK232 in KISS mode all
the time).

> Oh, how do I get it out of KISS mode?  Doing a long power cycle does it
> now, but I think my battery inside is dead.  What's the better way?

Type CTRL-C 3 times and wait 1-2 seconds, you should get the cmd: prompt
then. I think that a long break should do it also? Not sure though about
that.

> Thanks for the info and 73
> Jeff

73 de Markus

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Date: 16 Jul 1992 10:30:45 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Lan-Link ver 2.0, PK232MBX and Host Mode
To: [e-mail]

First I would like to indicate that I resolved my earlier problem in getting my
PK232MBX to talk to Lan-Link. I had been using the Fast Iniitialization mode
with PakRatt II and as a result the host mode was on when I disconnected.
Changing this and putting autobaud to "on" solved this and all is working now.

I have a question re using Lan-link to use the features of HOST mode in the
232. I would llike to use the signal command to recognize signal parameters,
and use the OK command to switch automatically to the mode, rate etc I would
like to change to.  I was thinking of using the L-L.00X files to send commands
to the PK232 in such a way that re-initialization etc is not necessay via the
Lan-Link menus.  Has anyone tried optimizing Lan-Link in this way to use the
Host mode in the 232MBX? I do have the tech. ref. manual on order - so I
suspect that there will be ideas there - but any suggestions from those who
may be doing this would be appreciated.

Comments and suggestions would be appreciated. Please E-Mail me at
[e-mail].  I will summarize responses if it is possible.

David Seeler   [e-mail]
VY2DCS

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 92 18:07:00 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!mips!cs.uoregon.edu!nntp.uoregon.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Need ROM upgrade?
To: [e-mail]

Here's a beginners question(s)...I've recently purchased a used MFJ-1270, and
am wondering if I am missing any features by not having a current ROM. I didn't
write down the version # but I think the date is around 1988? I know that it
has the ax25l2v2 command if that counts for anything. I would like to run
tcp/ip and am not sure if this guy will do it. Also, any good books that
anyone can recommend (other than the beginners arrl publication) would
be appreciated.
Thanks,
Jeff Hite       KF7SZ
Internet        [e-mail]
Packet          [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1992 02:39:22 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbfsb!cbnewsb.cb.att.com![e-mail]
Subject: Packet repeater w/o regenerating the packets & stopping voice
To: [e-mail]

Some time ago, there was a discussion on using a two frequency repeater
to service a local area and avoid "hidden" stations.  Repeater would
retransmit without time delay the packets it hears on the input freq
on the output freq.  Question is how to enforce packet use only, keeping
old style voice users out.  One way would be to demod and remodulate the
packet tones.  How about this:  Pass the recieved audio directly to the
transmitter, but have a circuit listen and detect the continuous presense
of packet tones, and shut off the transmitter if the tones are not
continuous (evidence of a voice user).  Thus, a voice user only triggers
the repeater for something like a second before being dumped out.
But a packet user gets permitted to use the machine beyond that time.
You get nearly non-delayed packet retransmission, thus reducing
collisions.  And you avoid possible innacurate demod and remodulation
of the packets being done in real time.
Above idea any good?   Anyone ever done it?
======================================================================
Just another day at the banana factory, where all the monkeys are
happy to work.

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Date: 16 Jul 92 17:18:11 GMT
From: swrinde!gatech!taco!garfield.catt.ncsu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Pinouts on Pk-88
To: [e-mail]

Are the Pinouts on the AEA PK-88 the same as the PCB-88?

I was thinking of getting a premade cable... but I can only find them
for the PK-88.

tnx.


Chris Blackmon, N4VGK           ||  In this business, you either lead, follow
[e-mail]           ||  or get the hell out of the way.

"pour aller ou personne n'est jamais alle'...."

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1992 21:20:09 GMT
From: stanford.edu!rock!taco!garfield.catt.ncsu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Pinouts on Pk-88
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Chris Blackmon) writes:

>Are the Pinouts on the AEA PK-88 the same as the PCB-88?

>I was thinking of getting a premade cable... but I can only find them
>for the PK-88.

>tnx.

I called AEA... they're not... answered my own question..


Chris Blackmon, N4VGK           ||  In this business, you either lead, follow
[e-mail]           ||  or get the hell out of the way.

"pour aller ou personne n'est jamais alle'...."

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Date: 16 Jul 92 16:11:58 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!ohstpy!miavx1!miavx3.mid.muohio.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Regency HR 2 on packet?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (eugene.c.koeppe) writes:
> Can anyone advise on the use of a Regency HR2 rig for packet radio?
>
> Since this rig uses a T/R relay I wonder if it will be suitable.
>
> Gene Koeppe  WB9JAB  att!ihlpm!genek   [e-mail]
>

It should work.  Experiment with the TXD until it is a short as possible but
doesn't "clip" the first part of the transmission.

Put the Regency on a dummy load, listen with another radio, set TXD to 900mS,
and transmit a digital message.  Keep shortening the TXD until you hear a very
short pause (dead air) space at the beginning of each transmission.

The Regency has a horrible receiver.  Ultra-wide, but if your signals are
fairly good, it should do well.  Regency had a "narrow-band" modification
kit for the 2A; if that's what you have, I could send you a copy of the
docs.  You may be able to find parts to affect the mod, if you like.

See you on packet!

73><Carl
  K8NHE

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1992 21:54:32 GMT
From: mdisea!mdd.comm.mot.com![e-mail]
Subject: SLFP packet driver
To: [e-mail]

I have been trying to get slfp.c to work properly on a Toshiba 386
running DOS 5 and the latest copy of Borland's Turbo C. However,
the vector setting method, using "hookptr" to slide in the
"PKT DRV" signature is giving me some fits. Also, if I get by this
problem through some assembly hacking, I still run into problems with
the Data Segment being different than the Stack Segment.

I assume this has something to do with the compilation switches,
although I am using the makefile supplied in the KA9Q distribution
and still run into problems. Any Hints ??

The authors are Glenn H McGregor, Merit Computer Network and
William A Simpson, Computer Systems Consulting Services, anyone know
their mail addresses?
--
Jim Knapik
Motorola - Mobile Data Division
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 92 14:46:27 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!spacm1.spac.spc.com!xenon!skyld![e-mail]
Subject: small TNC wanted
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

  >
  > Has anyone seen/used some of the tiny packet units?
  > I have heard that there are some about the size of a gender-changer,
  > and would like some details.  the idea is to get something small
  > that i can use with my notebook computer.
  >

It's the BayComm modem in a shell, and I believe it is available from PacComm
and Tiger Tronics along with the Software. It is a MODEM only and the packet
ax.25 bit-bashing is done with the software inside the computer.

xenon!skyld!jangus   < This space left blank intentionally. >
J Angus, PO Box 4425, Carson CA 90749-4425 voice [phone]

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Packet-Radio Digest         Sat, 18 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 192

Today's Topics:
             9600 bps with Ramsey FX-440
               KISS on PK-232 (2 msgs)
    Packet repeater w/o regenerating the packets & stopping voice
              Pinouts on Pk-88 (2 msgs)
            Tempo S1 HT on packet?
         UHF Radio for TAPR/G3RUH 9600 Modems

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----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 17 Jul 1992 11:29:15 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: 9600 bps with Ramsey FX-440
To: [e-mail]

Has anybody successfully gotten a Ramsey FX-440 radio to work on 9600
bps packet?  I would like to trade notes with anybody working on either
(a) the radio (it seems to have problems of its own), or
(b) getting it to work with a 9600 bps modem.

Items found so far:

(1) The signal at the "discriminator output" terminal of the radio is
    useless.  Use pin 12 of the receiver IC instead.

(2) The modem output is much too large for the transmitter input.  Put a
    voltage divider between the two.  (This is with the new TAPR modem;
    I don't know about the g3ruh modem.)

Jeff Austen, k9ja            bitnet: jra1854@tntech
packet: [e-mail]    internet: [e-mail]

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Date: 17 Jul 92 13:40:34 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!mips!darwin.sura.net!jvnc.net!netnews.upenn.edu!uofs!prijat.cs.uofs.edu![e-mail]
Subject: KISS on PK-232
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Markus Lamminmaki) writes:
|>
|> Type CTRL-C 3 times and wait 1-2 seconds, you should get the cmd: prompt
|> then.

Boy, I hope that's not true.  I doubt that the PK-232 is inteligent enough to
know the difference between a user trying to get out of KISS mode and a data
stream that just happens to contain 3 ^C's in a row.

bill    KB3YV

--

     Bill Gunshannon          |        If this statement wasn't here,
     [e-mail]   |  This space would be left intentionally blank
     [e-mail]    |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1992 21:42:24 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov![e-mail]
Subject: KISS on PK-232
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> Bill Gunshannon,
[e-mail] writes:
>Boy, I hope that's not true.  I doubt that the PK-232 is inteligent
enough to
>know the difference between a user trying to get out of KISS mode and a
data
>stream that just happens to contain 3 ^C's in a row.
>
>bill    KB3YV

It's very unlikely that the data containing 3 ^C will take it out of KISS
mode since the 3 ^C have to be preceded and followed by a 2-3 seconds
of total inactivity in order for the PK-232 to get out of KISS mode.

  == Minh,  KD6ARD ==

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Date: 18 Jul 92 02:49:54 GMT
From: swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!wupost!gumby!destroyer!ubc-cs!mala.bc.ca!oneb!ham![e-mail]
Subject: Packet repeater w/o regenerating the packets & stopping voice
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (robert.f.casey) writes:

> Some time ago, there was a discussion on using a two frequency repeater
> to service a local area and avoid "hidden" stations.  Repeater would
> retransmit without time delay the packets it hears on the input freq
> on the output freq.  Question is how to enforce packet use only, keeping
> old style voice users out.  One way would be to demod and remodulate the
> packet tones.  How about this:  Pass the recieved audio directly to the
> transmitter, but have a circuit listen and detect the continuous presense
> of packet tones, and shut off the transmitter if the tones are not
> continuous (evidence of a voice user).  Thus, a voice user only triggers
> the repeater for something like a second before being dumped out.
> But a packet user gets permitted to use the machine beyond that time.
> You get nearly non-delayed packet retransmission, thus reducing
> collisions.  And you avoid possible innacurate demod and remodulation
> of the packets being done in real time.
> Above idea any good?   Anyone ever done it?
> ======================================================================
> Just another day at the banana factory, where all the monkeys are
> happy to work.
>


Actually, it's probably unnecessary. Voice users find listening to data
so unbearable they usually go away very quickly.


Robert Smits  VE7EMD Ladysmith B.C.
Ph [phone] e-mail: [e-mail]
PACKET VE7EMD@VE7KIT.#VANC.BC.CAN.NOAM



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Date: 17 Jul 92 21:44:24 GMT
From: swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov![e-mail]
Subject: Pinouts on Pk-88
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> Chris Blackmon,
[e-mail] writes:
>I was thinking of getting a premade cable... but I can only find them
>for the PK-88.
>
>tnx.
>
>
>Chris Blackmon, N4VGK          ||  In this business, you either lead, follow
>[e-mail]          ||  or get the hell out of the way.

You are trying to get a pre-made cable for... what?

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Date: 17 Jul 92 23:37:07 GMT
From: swrinde!gatech!taco!garfield.catt.ncsu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Pinouts on Pk-88
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Minh Lang) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]> Chris Blackmon,
>[e-mail] writes:
>>I was thinking of getting a premade cable... but I can only find them
>>for the PK-88.
>>
>>tnx.
>>
>>
>>Chris Blackmon, N4VGK         ||  In this business, you either lead, follow
>>[e-mail]         ||  or get the hell out of the way.

>You are trying to get a pre-made cable for... what?

The PCB-88... but I can't find someone who makes the cable... they only
make the one for the PK-88 and the pinouts aren't compatible.
































Chris Blackmon, N4VGK           ||  In this business, you either lead, follow
[e-mail]           ||  or get the hell out of the way.

"pour aller ou personne n'est jamais alle'...."

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Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1992 14:32:59 GMT
From: ucselx![e-mail]
Subject: Tempo S1 HT on packet?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (eugene.c.koeppe) writes:
>> Can anyone advise on the use of a Regency HR2 rig for packet radio?
>>
>> Since this rig uses a T/R relay I wonder if it will be suitable.
>>
>> Gene Koeppe  WB9JAB  att!ihlpm!genek   [e-mail]
>>
>
>It should work.  Experiment with the TXD until it is a short as possible but
>doesn't "clip" the first part of the transmission.
>
>Put the Regency on a dummy load, listen with another radio, set TXD to 900mS,
>and transmit a digital message.  Keep shortening the TXD until you hear a very
>short pause (dead air) space at the beginning of each transmission.
>
...(deletions)

>
>73><Carl
>  K8NHE


I have the same question regarding an old Tempo S1 HT (made by Henry
Radio).  Is it suitable for packet?

Jerry
--
Jerry Palsson AA6KI ..............
[e-mail] ..........
[e-mail] ........
San Diego State University Library

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Date: 17 Jul 92 14:41:10 GMT
From: das.wang.com!wang!tegra![e-mail]
Subject: UHF Radio for TAPR/G3RUH 9600 Modems
To: [e-mail]

What is the hot setup for a plug-and-play radio for use with these?  I
have modified a couple of commercial radios and am having some problem
with the audio.  I did direct discriminator/modulator connections.

I still need at least one more radio for testing and would prefer to
use my check book and not my soldering iron for this one if there's
something good and not too over the top in price.

Tek radio?  Ramsey kit?

I realize that many radios can be made to work but I am looking for
suggestions on the easiest thing to do.

jv

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 _____
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Packet-Radio Digest         Sun, 19 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 193

Today's Topics:
         Anybody tried packet with Tandy 100?
              Beginning advice wanted...
                KISS on PK-232
              Pirating old Calls

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Date: 18 Jul 1992 15:04:27 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Anybody tried packet with Tandy 100?
To: [e-mail]

Chris Blackmon, N4VGK, asks:
>Has anybody tried mobile packet with a Tandy model 100? Just curious.

I haven't yet, but as soon as I can get my radio (Yaesu FT-411e) hooked up
to my MFJ 1270b TNC, I'll give it a try. I know there is a Model 100 program
on CompuServe, and I have a modem cable that I know will go between the TNC
and the 100. I'm having trouble getting the cable between the radio and TNC
working without interference. (First I had nothing passing between the radio
and the TNC; then I had it receive okay, but not activate PTT; then I had
PTT work, but there was so much interference passed from the TNC to the
radio [at about S7, and confirmed by moving the cable nearer and away from
the radio, then shutting off the TNC].) Give me a yell in a couple of weeks,
because I'm deep in a book project, and don't have a lot of free time right
now. I think the 100 and an HT, if I can get the TNC battery powered too,
will make a hot little portable packet system. I think 73 had a similar
article last year.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Andy Eddy-WB1FNV/6, 7J1ALH    Beverly Hills, California
Exec. Editor, VideoGames & Computer Entertainment Magazine
Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
Delphi: VIDGAMES      CompuServe: 70007,3554      Prodigy: CKJB66A
GEnie: VIDGAME      MCImail: VIDGAMES      America Online: VIDEOGAMES

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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1992 00:50:15 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!ipso![e-mail]
Subject: Beginning advice wanted...
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>
    [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) writes:

>The basic firmware command sets divide into Kantronics vs everyone else.

You can't have come across the old GLB PK-1's, then :-)

>2400 baud TNCs are uncommon. The majority of VHF use remains at 1200 baud

There's quite a number here in Sydney, due to some commercial "RF Packet
Modems" (KPC-2400's with different EPROMS) being unloaded at rock-bottom
prices.  We've put a 2400bps port on the VK2RWI BBS here to cater for them.

--
Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)         VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC
[e-mail]                  ...munnari!ips.OZ.AU!dave

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Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1992 06:36:30 GMT
From: usc!rpi!news.columbia.edu!cunixb.cc.columbia.edu![e-mail]
Subject: KISS on PK-232
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> Minh Lang <[e-mail]> writes:
>In article <[e-mail]> Bill Gunshannon,
>[e-mail] writes:
>>Boy, I hope that's not true.  I doubt that the PK-232 is inteligent
>enough to
>>know the difference between a user trying to get out of KISS mode and a
>data
>>stream that just happens to contain 3 ^C's in a row.
>>
>>bill    KB3YV
>
>It's very unlikely that the data containing 3 ^C will take it out of KISS
>mode since the 3 ^C have to be preceded and followed by a 2-3 seconds
>of total inactivity in order for the PK-232 to get out of KISS mode.

I guess this is what they call a security hole :-)

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Date: 18 Jul 92 18:16:56 GMT
From: usc!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ukma!widener!beyonet![e-mail]
Subject: Pirating old Calls
To: [e-mail]

    Fellow Concerned Hams!
    There has been a tri-state NE-area discussion going on via packet
distro PANET concerning piracy using old ham-calls on the AX-25 packet
radio network. A fellow packeteer N3IAS has come across a BOGUS call within
a few weeks of negative results finding out who it was via a couple of CD-ROM
callbooks and servers. He decided to open a debate on the AX-25 packet network
via PANET to see if anyone else has noticed this BOGUS call and had any infor-
mation on it. The pirated call in question was WB3AID.

    This alerted me since I too remember seeing this call being used on
the same local freq that I use to read packet bullets via a local bbs. To
stop the usual replies that will probably happen if I don't insert any common
sense reasoning here right now. NO I don't believe it was an operator mistake
like forgetting to set the MYCALL in the TNC etc etc. This call WB3AID was
being used in a fashion like a test station or something since it was using
locally fashioned PBBS software by N3DFD and connected to the N3DFD PBBS
in phila, PA for a good WEEK of forwarding and reverse-forwarding using
binary transfers and standard ascii transfers. After about a week of this
the station disappeared and a new version of the N3DFD PBBS software emerged.

                GO FIGURE!?!?!?!

    Now I have no proof since I didn't have a log of this only that I
remember it well because this WB3AID pbbs and N3DFD pbbs were trashing the
freq at night for a whole week. Here is some of the packet debate that I
offer to bring up this conclusion.


==============================================================================
MSG # TR  SIZE TO     FROM   @BBS   DATE    TITLE
 4115 PN   913 WA3NWL N3IAS    ---  920717 Pirate call
Forwarding path: WA3NWL

Joe,
  A few weeks ago, I was checking several of the calls on the heard list
and noticed one call that did not come back, WB3AID.  I checked with a
few servers and nothing kept coming back, however, someone just sent me a
message saying this was you old call previous to 1984.  I think we have
a radio pirate using you old call.  Do you want me to take this information
to One Oxford Valley for you?  Do you think that a CB'er possibilily has
your old call and it using it.

  73
--
Ed Wells, Levittown, Pa ..... Voice - 147.570s, 146.970-, 147.300+, 444.200+
    Packet Mail: N3IAS @ WA3NWL.#EPA.PA.USA.NA (144.990)
    TNC mailbox: WA3NWL-5>N3IAS-2 (144.990)
Usenet/Internet: [e-mail] or dsi.com!wells!edw

(This is a copy of msg sent to N3DFD)

*** END OF MSG # 4115 from N3IAS @ WA3NWL.#EPA.PA.USA.NA
==============================================================================
Msg#    Size To     From   @ BBS  Date       Time   Title
 31 PN  1017 N3IAS  N3DFD  N3IAS  17-Jul-92  17:27  WB3AID...

R:920717/2115z @:WA3NWL.#EPA.PA.USA.NA Levittown #:4125 Z:19057
R:920717/1638 @:WB3EUF.#EPA.PA.USA.NA C.H.C. Phila. Pa. #:4643 Z:19118
R:920717/2030z @:N3FOA.#EPA.PA.USA.NA Philadelphia #:4185 Z:19134
R:920717/1626 @:N3DFD.PA.USA.NA [Phila. Pa.] #:2666  Z:19145 [PT-109P].

Ed;

   PLEASE! Stop trying to be the frequency COP. We don't need you running to
the FCC even if somebody were bootlegging my old call. It was because of
another self appointed COP a few years ago running to the FCC about the
900 number incident that got a number of innocent SYSOPS in this area fined
up to $300.00.  If this overzealous COP had of minded his own business and
not run squealing to the FCC, the incident would have passed and nothing
more would have come of it. If you want to be a COP, apply to the accademy
and get a badge and a gun and go arrest the real bad guys. WE DON'T NEED
OR WANT COPS ON .990, and I think I speak for every SYSOP on this freq.

Signed: Joe, N3DFD @ N3DFD, Phila. Pa.  19145.
==============================================================================
MSG # TR  SIZE TO     FROM   @BBS   DATE    TITLE
 4135 B$  1007 ALL    W3BNR  BUCKET 920718 Re: We might have a pirate
Forwarding path: WB3EUF WB3CEZ WB3JOE WA3TSW N3LA

Date: 16 Jul 92 21:35:45 EDT (Thu)
From: [e-mail] (Ed Naratil)
Message-ID: <44496_N3LA>
To: all@panet
Subject: Re: We might have a pirate

>From the Internet callsign server (callsign.cs.buffalo.edu 2000)

Call-Sign: N3DFD                    Class: ADVANCED
Previously: WB3AID                  Class: GENERAL
Real Name: JOSEPH W BOSAK           Birthday: OCT 31, 1942
Mailing Address: 912 RAMONA ST, PHILADELPHIA, PA  19134
Station Address: 429 E ALLEGHENY AVE, PHILADELPHIA, PA
Valid From: SEP 21, 1984            To: SEP 21, 1994
Records Last Processed: SEP 21, 1984

73 de Ed, W3BNR@N3LA.#epa.PA.USA

*** END OF MSG # 4135 from W3BNR @ N3LA.PA.USA.NA
==============================================================================
MSG # TR  SIZE TO     FROM   @BBS   DATE    TITLE
 4141 PN  1278 KD3CR  N3IAS  W3AVK  920718 Thanks for your reply.

  My original concern was that a CB'er may have had someone's old call or
the call of a silent key.  Some of the Internet servers have their databases
reloaded about every 6 months with the new FCC records.  This is why the
servers didn't show this call.  The information was found on another server
on the Internet and showed that N3DFD was the new call.  Beings I know
N3DFD (via packet), I contacted him when I found out and let him know.
I've been around ham radio for 25 years now and didn't want to see it
turn into the trash can that the CB radio has.  Rather than a thank you,
I got a real nasty letter from N3DFD about how I shouldn't be paying cop
on the frequency.  Perhaps this attitute towards our hobby may start to
trend it towards another CB disgrace.  I hope not!

  We are suppose to be self-policing and I intend on doing something about
any piracy on the air so that we don't have CB on 2 meters.

  Thanks again for your reply.
--
Ed Wells, Levittown, Pa ..... Voice - 147.570s, 146.970-, 147.300+, 444.200+
    Packet Mail: N3IAS @ WA3NWL.#EPA.PA.USA.NA (144.990)
    TNC mailbox: WA3NWL-5>N3IAS-2 (144.990)
Usenet/Internet: [e-mail] or dsi.com!wells!edw

*** END OF MSG # 4141 from N3IAS @ WA3NWL.#EPA.PA.USA.NA
==============================================================================

    After all is said and done. Please feel free to followup on this
post via rec.radio.amateur.policy and voice your opinion of the matter
concerning the above. Also does anyone have any offical say about using
old CALLS for any purpose. Using old CALLS is Station Fraud, Piracy whatever
you want to call it right? Unless of course they are legally reassigned. :-)

    N3DFD has not commented other then the above concerning this
    situation. Nobody has pled guilty or has been fingered of doing
    an illegal act of misrepresentating thier station. However if
    you feel you need to voice your opinion about this situation
    directly to N3DFD @ N3DFD.PA.USA.NA then by all means let
    him feel why self-policy of the HAMBANDS IS NO CRIME!!!!!!


    Thank you for reading this.
    73
    Steve
--
 ############### Stephen Urich WB3FTP |"Starlightbeams project ###############
 ##|_|########## Bensalem, PA  USA    |me in Red Blue and Green##|_|##########
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 ##    |_|    ## widener!beyonet!beyo |--Alan Parsons Project  ##    |_|    ##
 ##           ##-----------------------------------------------##           ##
 ####       ####  Packet Radio: WB3FTP@WA3NWL.#EPA.PA.USA.NA   ####       ####
_###############_______________________________________________###############_

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Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1992 03:40:03 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!metro!extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: KISS on PK-232

[e-mail] (Bill Gunshannon) writes:

>|> Type CTRL-C 3 times and wait 1-2 seconds, you should get the cmd: prompt
>|> then.

>Boy, I hope that's not true.  I doubt that the PK-232 is inteligent enough to
>know the difference between a user trying to get out of KISS mode and a data
>stream that just happens to contain 3 ^C's in a row.

I don't know about that Bill, the key point is the 1-2 second pause after
the three ^C's, and the KISS protocol itself ensures that no valid frame
can end in ^C

Terry


--
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[phone] (voice), [phone] (fax).   __\*/__  0^Ooooo   _____

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Packet-Radio Digest         Mon, 20 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 194

Today's Topics:
             9600 bps with Ramsey FX-440
                 Help_for_NOS
            PK-232MBX & 9600 baud

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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 05:31:22 GMT
From: qualcom.qualcomm.com!chicago.qualcomm.com![e-mail]
Subject: 9600 bps with Ramsey FX-440
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeffrey Austen) writes:
>Has anybody successfully gotten a Ramsey FX-440 radio to work on 9600
>bps packet?  I would like to trade notes with anybody working on either
>(a) the radio (it seems to have problems of its own)

I recently built one of these things. When I looked at it on a
spectrum analyzer, it was obvious that the design has a real problem
with low frequency parasitics. Adding some bypassing on the 8V lines
helped a little, but not completely. Another problem is
intermodulation inside the MC3335 receiver that feeds back some spurs
at +/- 21.4 Mhz into the transmit chain.  (Pull the '3335 and the
transmit spurs go away.)  This can be helped a bit by modifying the
front end to run off of the 8V receive switched bus instead of from
unswitched 8V. But I haven't yet cleaned up the radio to my
satisfaction.

Phil

------------------------------

Date: 20 Jul 1992 01:24:36 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Help_for_NOS
To: [e-mail]

Hello all,

How can i do to have - NOS - for UNIX station ?
How to install it ?

I read tcp-group messages with ftp and i read the newsgroups
 (when they are not filter).

Please, answer to me directly, many thanks.

PS: I send this message in packet-radio too.

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  Service Technique de la     |   Ham packet: [e-mail]
    Navigation Aerienne       |   Mail: STNA 7 c  95 rue Henri Rochefort
   tel: [phone]      |         91025 Evry Cedex   France
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 09:16:54 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!wupost!darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!Urmel.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE!dfv.rwth-aachen.de![e-mail]
Subject: PK-232MBX & 9600 baud
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Markus Lamminmaki) writes:


>I've been trying to get my PK232MBX to work with G3RUH 9600 baud modem. I
>know that TAPR sells a disconnect kit for PK232 and did consider buying it
>first but the banks here in Finland rip you off when you buy foreign
>currency in small amounts ;( I've got it working, well sort of, the only
>problem is that it drops received characters now and then (about 5% of
>total input). Does anyone have good ideas on how to cure this? I suspect
>that the PK232MBX just isn't able to swallow all the data from the G3RUH
>modem fast enough.

Yes, I also think so. Try to speed up the CPU (not the interface chips!).
 For speeding up, you'll have to add an Xtal for the CPU and be sure that
the CIO is still working on the old speed (for the timers). The biggest problem
might be the synchronisation between the CPU and their interface chips but I
think this problem is already solved for the SCC in the PK232.

73 es gd luck
   Ralf, DD2kZ

PS: If these informations are not sufficient. I can look up in the German
PR Mailboxes for getting a full description of the necessary mods.



--
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Communication Networks, Technical University of Aachen   | --v-^-v-^-v-^-v--
  Phone: [phone]           Fax: [phone]     |   N   E   T   S
  Email: [e-mail]                          | RWTH Aachen, Germany

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Packet-Radio Digest         Tue, 21 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 195

Today's Topics:
         Anybody tried packet with Tandy 100?
    Packet repeater w/o regenerating the packets & stopping voice
        Problems with BAYCOM; help welcome...
               Regency HR 2 on packet?
              TAPR 9600 modem problem..

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Date: 20 Jul 92 09:13:48 CST
From: usc!wupost!tulane!agwbbs![e-mail]
Subject: Anybody tried packet with Tandy 100?
To: [e-mail]

I just came back from a Trip from Atlanta where I used a Tandy 102 for
mobile packet.. Luckily I had someone else driving the car so I could do
nothing but Packet all the way there and back.. I really had a lot of fun..





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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 20:01:47 GMT
From: usc!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!nigel.msen.com!sdd.hp.com!hpscdc!hplextra!hpl-opus!hpnmdla![e-mail]
Subject: Packet repeater w/o regenerating the packets & stopping voice
To: [e-mail]

In rec.radio.amateur.packet, [e-mail] (robert.f.casey) writes:

>Some time ago, there was a discussion on using a two frequency repeater
>to service a local area and avoid "hidden" stations.  Repeater would
>retransmit without time delay the packets it hears on the input freq
>on the output freq.  Question is how to enforce packet use only, keeping
>old style voice users out.  One way would be to demod and remodulate the
>packet tones.  How about this:  Pass the recieved audio directly to the
>transmitter, but have a circuit listen and detect the continuous presense
>of packet tones, and shut off the transmitter if the tones are not
>continuous (evidence of a voice user).

>...  And you avoid possible innacurate demod and remodulation
>of the packets being done in real time.
>Above idea any good?   Anyone ever done it?

I would think you'd get better results by having the repeater demodulate/
re-modulate the signal.  For one thing, the repeater is hearing a cleaner
signal than the user station (each transmission unavoidably adds some
noise and distortion.)  For another thing, you could equip the repeater
with a super-high-quality demodulator and modulator that would be too
expensive for a $69 TNC.

TTY repeaters have been doing real-time repeating for years, mostly
using the demod/re-mod technique.

AL N1AL

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 04:20:24 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu![e-mail]
Subject: Problems with BAYCOM; help welcome...
To: [e-mail]

I had similar problems with BayCom 1.50a.  The problem is in the scc.ini file
supplied with the program.  I used the scc.ini file from version 1.50 (it's in
German) and it works fine.  I had edited this text file several times, but
could not find the problem.  Retyping it should work, too, but I never got
around to it.

------------------------------

Date: 20 Jul 92 18:19:24 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!raven.alaska.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Regency HR 2 on packet?
To: [e-mail]

>In article <[e-mail]>, whou (eugene.c.koeppe)
writes:
>> Can anyone advise on the use of a Regency HR2 rig for packet radio?
>>
With txdelay set appropriately (I don't remember the value) it works.
I used mine in an area without much adjacent channel activity.

al7jj

------------------------------

Date: 20 Jul 92 09:44:27 CDT
From: timbuk.cray.com!hemlock.cray.com![e-mail]
Subject: TAPR 9600 modem problem..
To: [e-mail]

I was working on a TAPR 9600 modem last week, and came across
a problem. I thought I'd see if it was a common problem with
a workround, or if we were just unlucky..

Symptom:
    RX fine, TX non-functional, the transmitter was keyed, but
    the signal was rubbish.

Problem:
    It looks like U22d, the last op-amp in the tx data path, was
    was oscillating. U22 was a TL274 (ie, it was after the errata
    that changed the chip type).

We will swap out the chip, on the assumption that it's bad, but I
thought I'd ask if anyone else has seen this problem..

--
andyw.  N0REN/G1XRL

[e-mail]    Andy Warner, Cray Research, Inc.        [phone]

------------------------------

Date: 20 Jul 92 11:41:56 GMT
From: swrinde!gatech!gatech!kd4nc!ke4zv![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Reply-To : [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject : Re: Beginning advice wanted...

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dave Horsfall) writes:
>You can't have come across the old GLB PK-1's, then :-)

I started with one of these old bit bangers. Surely no one is still using
one of these? (Probably, and with a Xerox 820 to boot) :-)

Gary KE4ZV

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Packet-Radio Digest         Wed, 22 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 196

Today's Topics:
         Anybody tried packet with Tandy 100?
           MFJ 1278... I like!  Am I the only one?
           NOS/TCPIP for the Mac?? (2 msgs)
           Recent KA9Q for Atari ST wanted
              TAPR 9600 modem problem..

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Date: 21 Jul 92 12:20:00 GMT
From: ral.arc.nasa.gov![e-mail]
Subject: Anybody tried packet with Tandy 100?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (ANDY EDDY, VG&CE EXECUTIVE EDITOR) writes...
>
>Chris Blackmon, N4VGK, asks:
>>Has anybody tried mobile packet with a Tandy model 100? Just curious.
>
>I haven't yet, but as soon as I can get my radio (Yaesu FT-411e) hooked up
>to my MFJ 1270b TNC, I'll give it a try. I know there is a Model 100 program
>on CompuServe, and I have a modem cable that I know will go between the TNC
>and the 100. I'm having trouble getting the cable between the radio and TNC
>working without interference. (First I had nothing passing between the radio
>and the TNC; then I had it receive okay, but not activate PTT; then I had
>PTT work, but there was so much interference passed from the TNC to the
>radio [at about S7, and confirmed by moving the cable nearer and away from
>the radio, then shutting off the TNC].) Give me a yell in a couple of weeks,
>because I'm deep in a book project, and don't have a lot of free time right
>now. I think the 100 and an HT, if I can get the TNC battery powered too,
>will make a hot little portable packet system. I think 73 had a similar
>article last year.
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Andy Eddy-WB1FNV/6, 7J1ALH    Beverly Hills, California
>Exec. Editor, VideoGames & Computer Entertainment Magazine
>Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
>Delphi: VIDGAMES      CompuServe: 70007,3554      Prodigy: CKJB66A
>GEnie: VIDGAME      MCImail: VIDGAMES      America Online: VIDEOGAMES
I've tried my M100 with an MFJ-1274 and a Yaesu FT-727.  After a minor mod
to the TNC (changing a resistor value I think) had no trouble keying the
radio.  Unfortunately, so much RF interference came out of the TNC cables,
that it made it virtually impossible to receive anything unless you were
almost on top of the transmitting station.  I verified this by removing all
the cables from the TNC and sticking a battery pack inside.  Just a couple
of flat 4 AA cell holders from radio shack is all that's required.  Of course
since I was hunting for interference, and since the batteries weren't
rechargable, I didn't connect the power cable.  This eliminated the interference
but obviously didn't make the TNC very usable.  You still need an RS232.
My solution was to get the antenna far enough away from the TNC so that the
RF isn't a problem.  It seems to work, but I don't use the M100 for this
anymore.  Looking at the 1274 unit and schematics, I can't figure out how
the RF is getting out in the first place.  There appear to be RF bypass caps
on all lines going into and out of the unit.  If anyone out there has found
a better solution to this problem, I (and I'm sure others) would love to
hear about it.  It's a shame to homebound this quite portable packet station.

I've also written some software for the M100 to deal with the Computer
Aided Tuning (CAT) system for the Yaesu.  If there is some interest,
perhaps I can post it/send it to an archive site/BBS.

                    Better Luck to you,
                    Donald K. George (KB6ZHN)

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:32:00 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!mips!darwin.sura.net!gatech!utkcs2!utkux1.utk.edu!utkvx4.utk.edu![e-mail]
Subject: MFJ 1278... I like!  Am I the only one?
To: [e-mail]

I like my MFJ 1278.  I've owned both the 1278 and the AEA PK232MBX,
and I find the MFJ easier to tune on all modes.  I've heard that
MFJ stands for "mighty fine junk" but in this case it stands for
"mighty fine job" imho...  Anyone else out there enjoying their
1278?

Randy Padawer, WA4FJF
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 21 Jul 92 14:37:11 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!lobster!nuchat!jpunix![e-mail]
Subject: NOS/TCPIP for the Mac??
To: [e-mail]

Hello everyone!

This may be a FAQ but I was wondering if there was any NOS/TCPIP
software available for the MAC? If so, where can I FTP it from?

--

John A. Perry        [e-mail]                       - Internet
             jpunix!perry                           - UUCP
             KG5RG @ AB5A%FE6CNB.#HOU.TX.USA.NA     - Packet Radio

------------------------------

Date: 22 Jul 92 08:02:43 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!mips!apple!apple![e-mail]
Subject: NOS/TCPIP for the Mac??
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John Perry) writes:
>
>This may be a FAQ but I was wondering if there was any NOS/TCPIP
>software available for the MAC? If so, where can I FTP it from?

No NOS, but there are versions of Phil's original NET software for Mac.
You can FTP the main version from ftp.apple.com (in the pub/ham-radio
directory). You'll also want to grab the mailing program (Bdale's Mailer).

Adam, PA2AGA, has expanded on the basic NET program, but I'm not
sure whether his software is FTP-able from anywhere (Dick??). And Ivo
Van Ursel, ON1XK, has an alternative mailer, but again, I'm not sure
where it's available from.


Patty
--

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    ::   Sunnyvale, California         AMPRNet: 44.4.0.44          ::
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Date: 21 Jul 92 12:09:16 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!pyrltd!mwuk![e-mail]
Subject: Recent KA9Q for Atari ST wanted
To: [e-mail]

Hi Folks,

I am looking for a recent version of KA9Q for the ST.  I found one for
FTP on plains.nodak.edu, but it is dated somewhere in 1988.

I'm really looking for a NOS version rather than a NET version.

Any pointers gratefully received. Email preferred if possible.

Thanks in advance.

Tony.

--
Tony Mountifield     (G4CJO)       | Microware Systems (UK) Ltd.
Email:  [e-mail]       | Colden Common, WINCHESTER, SO21 1TH.
(or:  ...!uknet!mwuk!tony)         | Tel: [phone]   Fax: [phone]
------------------------------------------------------------------------
** Any opinions are mine, not Microware's - but you knew that anyway. **
------------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------

Date: 21 Jul 92 11:32:21 CDT
From: timbuk.cray.com!hemlock.cray.com![e-mail]
Subject: TAPR 9600 modem problem..
To: [e-mail]

I have received several replies (thank you all) the majority
of which said that the output op amp oscillating (at around
400KHz) was a known problem. The fix is supposedly to remove
C5. I can't verify this, since the guy whose modem I was
working on is out of town for a few days..

I now have a file containing several suggested fixes to
the tapr9600 modem (including this one), if anyone wants a
copy, drop me a line. I think it might already have made the
rounds over AX25 & UO-22...

Thanks,
--
andyw.  N0REN/G1XRL

[e-mail]    Andy Warner, Cray Research, Inc.        [phone]

------------------------------

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 04:30:03 PDT
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Packet-Radio Digest         Thu, 23 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 197

Today's Topics:
               BM sources for Atari ST
     Connecting packet radio to a mini/mainframe computer
             CQ WU2Z, Keith in NJ
       MFJ 1278... I like!  Am I the only one? (2 msgs)
             MSYS Under Windows 3.1 ????
             Packet-Radio Digest V92 #196
        Problems with BAYCOM; help welcome...
             TAPR 9600 Baud Info Required
         US Antarctic Program Request for Information

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----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:53:50 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!caen!mtu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: BM sources for Atari ST
To: [e-mail]

A friend of mine is looking for the sources for Bdales Mailer for the Atari ST.  I
have looked all over ucsd for them, but all I could find were the IBM sources.  If
anybody could send them to me, or tell me where to find them, it would be most
appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Ken Friberg n8pbe

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 02:18:49 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.iastate.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Connecting packet radio to a mini/mainframe computer
To: [e-mail]

I am interested in finding out if anyone has connected packet radio to a
large mainframe computer (or university computer) of some kind.  If anyone
has any info, could you please email it to [e-mail] or
[e-mail]?

Thanx!

------------------------------

Date: 22 Jul 92 18:33:59 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!milano!shrike![e-mail]
Subject: CQ WU2Z, Keith in NJ
To: [e-mail]

Sure would like to know his home BBS.

73 de Dick, KD5VU



=====================================================================
   Richard (Dick) Kriss    E-Mail:[e-mail]
      904 Dartmoor Cove    Packet Radio: SP KD5VU @ N5LJF.#AUS.TX.USA.NA
    Austin, Texas 78746    Phone: [phone] (day) or 327-9566 (evenings)
  My employer has nothing to do with this message! ...  _._
=====================================================================

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 17:42:02 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!mips!darwin.sura.net!mojo.eng.umd.edu![e-mail]
Subject: MFJ 1278... I like!  Am I the only one?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Padawer, Justin Randall) writes:
>I like my MFJ 1278.  I've owned both the 1278 and the AEA PK232MBX,
>and I find the MFJ easier to tune on all modes.  I've heard that
>MFJ stands for "mighty fine junk" but in this case it stands for
>"mighty fine job" imho...  Anyone else out there enjoying their
>1278?

I have a 1278, and I also like it.  It could use a better CW algorithm, but
who wants to do CW thru a modem, when they can do it by ear?

Anybody know where I can get a PD program for the 1278 that allows fax's etc
to show on a PC?

Chuck Harris - WA3UQV
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 23 Jul 92 09:05:10 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!uos-ee!ee.surrey.ac.uk![e-mail]
Subject: MFJ 1278... I like!  Am I the only one?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV)
>Subject: Re: MFJ 1278... I like!  Am I the only one?
>Date: 22 Jul 92 17:42:02 GMT

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Padawer, Justin Randall) writes:
>>I like my MFJ 1278.  I've owned both the 1278 and the AEA PK232MBX,
>>and I find the MFJ easier to tune on all modes.  I've heard that
>>MFJ stands for "mighty fine junk" but in this case it stands for
>>"mighty fine job" imho...  Anyone else out there enjoying their
>>1278?

>I have a 1278, and I also like it.  It could use a better CW algorithm, but
>who wants to do CW thru a modem, when they can do it by ear?

>Anybody know where I can get a PD program for the 1278 that allows fax's etc
>to show on a PC?
I also have one, difficult to find at a reasonable price in the UK
current dealers are after 279 pounds $530!!!! but luckily mail order exists
to the states.

I have had it for two years now and it works well. I could do with the new
firmware and bette rPC software (also not easily available here unless you
pay through the nose). Therefore I would be interested in PD software. I hear
MFJs offering does things to the hard disk, if this is so I would not touch
it.

CW is not good, but I have never come across any good CW modem.

Mike
M.J.Willis - CSER - University of Surrey

------------------------------

Date: 22 Jul 92 21:12:41 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!gatech!utkcs2!memstvx1![e-mail]
Subject: MSYS Under Windows 3.1 ????
To: [e-mail]

I am looking for anybody out there who is running MSYS 1.13 under WINDOWS 3.1
I have heard that the BBS software run's under other multi-tasking programs.
We are currently runing MSYS on a 8086 machine with 640K. We will be upgrading
our machine to a 386DX 33 MHz with 4MB of RAM.

Any sugestions or Comments are welcome.


Suresh N9GSA

___  ___  _____  ___ ___ Suresh Kagoo  EE Dept , Memphis State University
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| \  / | \____ \ | |_| | Memphis, TN  38152 | Bitnet: KAGOOS@MEMSTVX1
|_|\/|_| \_____/ \_____/ Ph: [phone] | AX.25 : N9GSA@W4BS.#WESTN.TN.USA

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Date: 22 Jul 1992 09:44:39 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Packet-Radio Digest V92 #196
To: [e-mail]

MFJ equipment I have used was not too well constructed, by the
physical/mechanical assembly.  The circuitry seemed ok.
The price is fair and other people I know have good things to say
about MFJ products.  Ken

           >>[e-mail]<<
     >>PHONES 703-857-7584 >>VATECH CAMPUS 13855<<
       >>FAX [phone]<< [e-mail] >>
         >>ARMY MARS AAT3PK/AD.VA<< >>N4LYO<<
             >>IBMMAIL (USVPITMA)<<
         ROANOKE VALLEY GRADUATE CENTER
          US SNAIL: 117 W. CHURCH AVE.
            ROANOKE, VA. 24011-1905

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 10:14:54 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!manuel!rsphy3.anu.edu.au![e-mail]
Subject: Problems with BAYCOM; help welcome...
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Mark Atherton) writes:
|>From: [e-mail] (Mark Atherton)

|>I had similar problems with BayCom 1.50a.  The problem is in the scc.ini file
|>supplied with the program.  I used the scc.ini file from version 1.50
|>(it's in
|>German) and it works fine.  I had edited this text file several times,
|>but
|>could not find the problem.  Retyping it should work, too, but I never
|>got
|>around to it.
|>

Tried it out, worked fine for me; thanks for the hint. I'm posting it
since Mark Atherton can't
do this from his network. BAYCOM users beware...
Marek Kaminski

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:20:35 GMT
From: deccrl!news.crl.dec.com!rdg.dec.com!irnbru.enet.dec.com![e-mail]
Subject: TAPR 9600 Baud Info Required
To: [e-mail]

Hi,

I have seen a few articles about the TAPR 9600 baud modem,
but I know very little about it. Are their any ftp sites
which carry any information, i.e. access to kits,
compatibilty with radios / G3RUH etc.

I would also like to hear from anyone who can give me any
info as to the cost and complexity.

Thanks in advance.

Robin Alexander

ampr            : [e-mail]
internet        : [e-mail]

Entry Level Systems Product Business Unit,
Digital Equipment, Scotland.
[phone] (DTN 823-3375)

------------------------------

Date: 22 Jul 1992 09:25:24 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: US Antarctic Program Request for Information
To: [e-mail]

22 July 1992     1530 GMT

To:      [e-mail]
     [e-mail]

From:    Patrick D. Smith
     National Science Foundation
     Division of Polar Programs

Subject:  Call for Advice for AX.25 Packet Data Networks for HF and
      VHF Radio to Support Science Field Party Data/Text
      Communications in Antarctica for the United States
      Antarctic Program

Gentlemen:

I will make this brief so as not to clog the email with a long
treatise, but here's the gist:

The National Science Foundation Division of Polar Programs is the
executive manager of the US Antarctic Program.  We run year round
bases at McMurdo Station (77 51S, 166 40E), South Pole Station (90
00 S), and Palmer Station (64 46S, 64 03W) for scientific research.
McMurdo Station supports a great deal of seasonal field work where
small (3-4 person) to large (15-20) field camps deploy from 20
miles up to 1000 miles.  If you should ever talk to any of our
researchers, they would say that our communications support for the
field researcher is lousy (for voice) and non-existant (for data,
email).  They are right, but I'm working on it.  We are buying new
synthesized tuned broadband HF radios that will be automatic link
establishment capable, installing a remote HF receiver/antenna site
for improved SNR, and developing VHF repeaters that can be used to
cover some extremely mountanous terrain.

Concurrently with this, at McMurdo, we are installing C-Band
commercial digial satellite service, and we expect to have a 128
kb/s direct Internet link.  This will be interfaced to a base-wide
Ethernet multi-protocol routing LAN, and we plan to implement full
email service via the Internet with a MHS interface with the LAN
DaVinci Mail system.  We want to extend the SMTP email service out
to the remote field user, plus attempt more advanced services such
as FTP and Telnet.  The end goal would be enabling the remote field
researcher to interchange email and files with any Internet user.

The Antarctic Program does not have an unlimited budget, and the
environmental and logistical issues dealing with doing anything in
the Antarctic are significant (it's a big deal to have a 386
notebook computer operate successfully with a field party who is
ski-dooing around the Antarctic, living in tents, and supported
from a little 500 watt Honda gasoline generator, all at -20 deg C,
for up to 1-2 months).  Our concept is to try to keep things as
simple as possible, and to leverage off as much developmental work
done by others as possible.

So, the intense activity of the amateur radio community, and as
subsequently picked up by the commercial sector, has led me to post
this notice asking for input from the community as to what
techniques, packet hardware, packet software, protocols, network
operating systems, etc, are currently available and at such a state
of maturity that the US Antarctic Program could take these
components and test bed a prototype field party data network.

I would appreciate any and all commentary or assistance that the
community has to offer.  Please send all replies directly to:

Internet:     [e-mail]

Fax:          [phone]

Thank you.

Patrick Smith, Electronics Engineer
Operations Section
Division of Polar Programs
National Science Foundation
1800 G St, NW   Room 620
Washington, DC   20550

------------------------------

Date: 23 Jul 92 09:42:18 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!uos-ee!ee.surrey.ac.uk![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: Windows Packet Program


I just uudecoded this and it appears to work well. I don't know if it
handles trutype yet but I look forward to the next version with the added
features.

It looks good on the screen too.

I had to reconfigure the ini file to take account of serial port 2
and at least the program told me what was wrong. Now I will try it on a slow
16MHz 286 to see if it can run in the background.

A good program.
Mike
M.J.Willis - CSER - University of Surrey

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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 04:30:04 PDT
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Subject: Packet-Radio Digest V92 #198
To: packet-radio


Packet-Radio Digest         Fri, 24 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 198

Today's Topics:
               Help for portable NOVICE
          KA9Q interface to NCR wavelan card
             KAM / TS850S noise problems
        Looking for UNIX version of NOS/TCP-IP
    Packet repeater w/o regenerating the packets & stopping voice
                 unsubscribe
              WA4DSY modem question(s)..
           Windows Packet Program (2 msgs)

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----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 24 Jul 92 02:02:05 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!ccsvax.sfasu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Help for portable NOVICE
To: [e-mail]

I currently own a Zenith notebook and I was planning on getting into ham radio
[Cand packet.  I know about how to get the license as a technician class.  What
I need is information on what is needed for a truely portable packet station.
No knowledge of equipment necessary to run packet.  I am well versed in only
phone modem use.

------------------------------

Date: 24 Jul 92 09:56:39 GMT
From: news.hawaii.edu!wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu![e-mail]
Subject: KA9Q interface to NCR wavelan card
To: [e-mail]

Hello!
This is regarding the Wavelan Communications Adapter (#3299-k970-v004)

    I have been attempting to use the NCR WaveLAN wireless network
card with the KA9Q NOS to bridge my wireless network to a standard
wired ethernet LAN. The wavelan manual mentions compatibilty of the
card with TCP/IP systems, and specifies the drivers needed to use
with FTP's PCTCP package using which I am able to ftp between two
PC ATs with the NCR cards. The NDIS driver provided by NCR is named
dncrwl02.dos and is included in the config.sys file along with the
netbind related files as required. The protocol.ini file has the
following form:
_______________________________
[WAVELAN]
    drivername=ncrwve$
    IOBase=03E0
    ACR = 6

[PKTDRV]
    drivername= PKTDRV
    bindings=WAVELAN
    intvec=0x65

______________________________

    I tried using : attach packet 0x65 ncrwve$ 5 1500
in the autoexec.net file which yields:
No packet driver loaded at 0x65
Could not attach packet driver

    trying the same after using "netbind" yields:
Packet driver has unsupported class 9
Could not attach packet driver.

    I would appreciate any suggestions or ideas. thanks

**
[e-mail]
**

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Date: 23 Jul 92 18:03:46 GMT
From: swrinde!mips!darwin.sura.net!udel!gvls1![e-mail]
Subject: KAM / TS850S noise problems
To: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (KE3BI)
To: All TS-850S and KAM owners
Subject: Reducing Noise from KAM into TS-850S

I recently purchased a Kenwood TS-850S and really love the rig. I also
use a Kantronics KAM TNC for all of the digital modes (HF and VHF) that
I use.  The following describes some of the problems and frustrations
which I encountered while attempting to connect these two pieces of
equipment together. I hope that some of my experiences explained below
can save someone else the many headaches I have endured.

The TS-850S has an accessory plug ACC2 on the back panel (one of many)
which has 13 pins. In the owner's manual these pins are described
fairly well as to which pin is used for which function.  Many of
the control and output signals from the KAM can be brought into the
TS-850S from this jack.  This is a little less cluttered that using a
modified 8-pin microphone jack and going in from the front panel.

Anyway, I used the interface cable supplied with the KAM from the HF
output port (8-pin DIN) and wired the ACC2 plug supplied with the TS-850S
as follows:


  KAM     WIRE                         TS-850S ACC2   or  TS-850S
PIN OUT   COLOR                         PIN NUMBER         JACK
   1      White  - AFSK OUT     -----       11                -
   2      Black/Shield          -----      4,8,12    CW/RTTY jack grounds
   3      Brown  - PTT SWITCH   -----       9                 -
   4      Orange - CW KEY       -----       -         CW KEY JACK (tip)
   5      Red    - FSK OUT      -----       -        RTTY-FSK JACK (tip)


All digital modes worked fine (AMTOR, RTTY, PACKET..etc) by using AFSK
tones generated in the KAM, setting the TS-850S to LSB or USB, and
modulating the RF signal with these tones.

The problem occured when I would use voice LSB or USB while the ACC2
plug was plugged into the the back of the TS-850S. Even though the KAM
was in a receive mode only, and not keying the transmitter, I would get
distortion on my voice signal. This distortion was heard over the air
by others, and also could be heard using the monitor button on the front
of the TS-850S while wearing headphones to listen to my own signal as I
was transmitting. This distortion and noise was present when I was using
my vertical, dipole, and dummyload.

I thought this distortion/noise was maybe RF energy in the shack being
rectified in the KAM and being sent back into the TS-850S through one
of the lines on the ACC2 cable and plug.  I called Kantronics to inform
them of my findings and they said, "Oh, you must have a ground loop
or something --- make sure all grounds are properly connected,
especially since many Kenwood radios have a separate audio ground
which is not at the same ground potential as the case or chassis ground."
(loads of technical support, huh??!! )

So I went back and made sure all grounds from the KAM and Kenwood
were secure, and that the shield on the cable between the KAM and
the TS-850S was well connected to the ground for the TNC and the rig.
The distortion was still there!!!

I also tried RF ferrite beads/cores on the outside of the cable with
no difference in distortion or noise.

I found that the noise and distortion would go away completely by
either unplugging the cable between the KAM and TS-850S, or by simply
shutting off the KAM with the interface cable still connected to the
ACC2 jack on back of the TS-850S.

THE PROBLEM is that there is noise (RF or microprocessor clock noise)
coming from pin 1 of the KAM HF port (8-pin DIN plug) and traveling
down the white audio lead of the interface cable and entering the rig
through pin 11 of the ACC2 plug on the rear panel of the TS-850S.

I guess that Kenwood can`t shunt this line to ground during SSB,
(or any voice mode for that matter), because AFSK uses this input to
inject the audio signals from a TNC onto the output signal.  But maybe
Kantronics might be able to do more than just a blocking cap to ground
to keep internal noise off of the audio lead coming out from the KAM.

MY SOLUTION was to install a small SPST switch in line with this white
audio lead from the KAM to the TS-850S. I placed it very close to the
ACC2 plug in back of the rig so as not to leave a large antenna for RF
to enter the TS-850S when this audio lead switch is open.

I leave this switch open most of the time because usually I use the FSK
mode on the TS-850S for most digital modes.  In this mode, the mark and
space tones are GENERATED in the TS-850S itself but SWITCHED by the FSK
OUT line from the KAM (RED wire, pin 5) and into the TS-850S via the
RTTY plug on back of the rig.

The standard shift out of the TS-850S is 170 HZ which is fine for RTTY
and AMTOR, but for PACKET, the standard shift is 200 HZ. This shift can
be changed in the TS-850S, however it has to be done from the power-up
menu function and this is tedious and inconvenient with powering down and
powering back up the rig to change this parameter.

So normally I use the FSK mode on the RIG and have the KAM send data
using the RTTY output (the switch installed on white audio lead is open),
but if I want to use HF Packet (200 HZ shift instead of 170 HZ), I use LSB
on the TS-850S (the switch installed on white audio lead from KAM is
closed), and the tones are generated in the KAM (AFSK).

Note: the data from the KAM is sent out both ways all of the time.  The
AFSK audio goes to the TS-850S via the white wire from pin 1 on the KAM
HF port to pin 11 of the ACC2 plug in the TS-850S, and RTTY (open/close)
shift data goes to the TS-850S via the RED line from pin 5 on the KAM HF
port to the RTTY/FSK jack on the back of the TS-850S.

I hope my ramblings above help some of you out there fighting similar
problems.  I am always looking for more info on the TS-850S, ie.
undocumented features, mods, etc.

I have already done the MARS/CAP all band XMIT, and the Broadcast AM
band attenuator defeat mods. Really love the rig ...
Any Questions or other Info always welcome.

73 de HUGH     K
           E
           3
           B-ad
           I-nfluence


E-MAIL  to [e-mail]
------------------------------------------
Hugh M. Pepper, KE3BI ('B`ad 'I`nfluence)

email: [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:54:20 GMT
From: news.acns.nwu.edu!nucsrl!ddsw1!hp1![e-mail]
Subject: Looking for UNIX version of NOS/TCP-IP
To: [e-mail]

Hi,

I'm trying to locate a UNIX version of the NOS/TCP-IP or similar
software.  Does such a thing exist?  I want to run it on a 386
box running Interactive UNIX.

thanks much
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
\  David Vrona  708.680.2829              <[e-mail]>                /
/  Hollister Incorporated                 {well connected}!ddsw1!hp1!dave    \
\  2000 Hollister Drive               Opinions expressed are my own and not  /
/  Libertyville, IL  60048-3781       those of Hollister Incorporated.       \
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Date: 23 Jul 92 13:50:05 GMT
From: swrinde!gatech!pitt!cs.pitt.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Packet repeater w/o regenerating the packets & stopping voice
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (robert.f.casey) writes:
> Some time ago, there was a discussion on using a two frequency repeater
> to service a local area and avoid "hidden" stations.  Repeater would
> retransmit without time delay the packets it hears on the input freq
> on the output freq.

We've done this with a 440 repeater in Pittsburgh and it works very
well.  The terrain in this area makes the hidden-transmitter problem
quite severe and this repeater has eliminated that.

> Question is how to enforce packet use only, keeping
> old style voice users out.

Robert Smits, [e-mail] replies:
> Actually, it's probably unnecessary. Voice users find listening to data
> so unbearable they usually go away very quickly.

This is exactly what we have found.  We started out using a Bell 202T
compatible modem in the audio path between the receiver and the
transmitter.  I found this to make debugging the repeater more difficult
because when a user was noisy into the machine, the result was perfectly
modulated but corrupted packets.  We took the modem out and connected
it up as a normal voice repeater and we were then able to hear when
someone was noisy.  We also took care to properly equalize the audio
passband because the transceiver used (an old GE Mastr-Pro base station)
tends to roll off the high frequencies.

    ---Bob.

--
Bob Hoffman, N3CVL       pitt!hoffman
Pitt Computer Science    [e-mail]    FAX: [phone]

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Date: 23 Jul 1992 06:55:20 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: unsubscribe
To: [e-mail]

unsubscribe all



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Date: 23 Jul 92 20:08:24 GMT
From: timbuk.cray.com!hemlock.cray.com![e-mail]
Subject: WA4DSY modem question(s)..
To: [e-mail]

I posted this once before, but I think inews "lost" the original,
my apologies if this appears twice.

I've heard rumours about a set of replacement roms for the GRAPES
56K modem, which allow it to use class C power amps, albeit at
the expense of bandwidth. Can anyone confirm or deny this ?
How much additional bandwidth does it take ? What practical
effect does this have on performance ?

While I'm waiting for my information pack to arrive from GRAPES,
can anyone tell me if the modems come shipped with crystal(s) ?
If so what is the standard IF freq ?

Thanks,
--
andyw.  N0REN/G1XRL

[e-mail]    Andy Warner, Cray Research, Inc.        [phone]

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Date: 23 Jul 92 16:16:28 GMT
From: swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!spacm1.spac.spc.com!xenon!skyld![e-mail]
Subject: Windows Packet Program
To: [e-mail]

Two comments on the pktwin04.zip posting:

1.      I decoded this four part package, and the zip file was corrupted.
    PKZIPFIX allowed me to extract things, but then the exe file failed
    the CRC.

2.      Why was approximately 250K of uuencoded file posted to the entire
    network? Especially in light of the errors I received decoding it.
    What ever happened to posting a short brief of the programs abilities
    and availability via fpt, email or diskette mail.

xenon!skyld!jangus   < This space left blank intentionally. >
J Angus, PO Box 4425, Carson CA 90749-4425 voice [phone]

------------------------------

Date: 24 Jul 1992 06:13:37 GMT
From: ucsd.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Windows Packet Program
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeff Angus) writes:
>2.      Why was approximately 250K of uuencoded file posted to the entire
>        network?

Posted by an overenthusiastic newcomer whose eagerness outran his good
judgement.  Now he knows better, eh?
    - Brian

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To: packet-radio


Packet-Radio Digest         Sat, 25 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 199

Today's Topics:
             "Cooling" Mod for the PK232
          A couple of EASY TCP/IP Questions
        Anybody tried packet with Tandy 100? (2 msgs)
        Looking for UNIX version of NOS/TCP-IP
           Windows Packet Program (2 msgs)

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Date: 24 Jul 92 17:59:51 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!shrike![e-mail]
Subject: "Cooling" Mod for the PK232
To: [e-mail]

            "Cooling" Mod for the PK232 MBX

                by Tom, AB5FH
             AB5FH @ N5LJF.#AUS.TX.USA.NA

             23 July 1992 (REVISED)

For all  PK232 MBX owners, place your hand on the top, middle, right side of
the PK232 case.  If it appears warm-to-hot after one hour of operation, read
on.  The power voltage regulator/heatsink is mounted to the circuit board
below this point.  This regulator is an LM317T voltage regulator capable of
dissipating approximately 15 watts.  In normal packet mode, this regulator
sources approximately 700 milliamps with a voltage drop (across the LM317T) of
approximately 6.7 volts.  This results in a power dissipation for the LM317T
of approximately 4.7 watts.  While this is 1/3 of the capability of the
LM317T, this heat is driven into the circuit board.  While replacing a
defective radio selector switch, I noticed that the circuit board under the
heat sink was charred.  This particular PK 232 MBX has been in operation
approximately 3 years.  A review of the schematic revealed that there was no
series dropping resistor in series with the LM317T input.  This resistor is
used to reduce the input voltage to the LM317T which in turn reduces the
voltage drop across regulator.  With this voltage reduction, the power
dissipation of the device is reduced.  I paralleled two 10 ohm, 2 watt
resistors and placed them in series with the cathode of D11.  This reduced the
dissipation power of the LM317T by approximately 30%.  Consequenty, the entire
unit runs exceptionally cooler with no degradation in performance.  The heat
will be dissipated by the resistors (instead of the LM317T) and then be
conducted into the case.  The two paralleled resistors were placed adjacent to
the heat sink, and along the edge of the circuit board.  These resistor should
be installed so that they are at least 1/4" above the circuit board.   You can
make this mod from the top of the board since the circuit board trace to this
resistor is on the top side and the hole feedthru is plated thru the board.
Locate and lift up diode D11(large bodied diode closest to the side edge of
the board near the LM317T regulator.) from the cathode side (banded end).  Use
a low wattage iron and wick soldlead.  The resistor lead that is to be placed in that hole must be trimmed so
that no more than 1/16" of lead extends from the underside of the board.  If
you are uncomfortable with this step, you may remove the circuit board to
expose the underside of the board.   Place one lead of the paralleled resistor
assembly in that hole and solder in place.  Be sure that the resistor pair
sits above the circuit board.  It helps to let the resistors lay over on their
while they are soldered in place.  This will force the pair to be sit
above the board.  Position the other lead end of the resistor pair such that
it connects to the cathode (band end) of diode D11.  Solder the resistor lead
to the DII diode lead.  Position the resistor pair so that their leads are not
in contact with the LM317T heatsink or the 1000 ufd filter capacitor (C26).
The resistor pair was obtained from Radio Shack (part no. 271-080 - $.99) and
that was done to my PK232 MBX is optional due to its aesthetic result.  A
pattern of 8 holes (0.1" in dia) were drilled in the cover above the heat sink
and resistor pair.  With the holes drilled in the case top, there is no
noticeable heat rise detected on the cover and no degradation in performance
in all modes.  I have operated the modified unit for over 2 weeks since the
modification without disconnecting power with no degradation in performance
It is also important to note that the AEA transformer supplied to power the PK
232 outputs DC voltage in excess of 17 volts unloaded.  This can be checked by
placing a meter on the connector end of the transformer unit while it is
plugged in.  When connected to the PK232, the load of the PK232 MBX drops this
voltage to approximately 13 volts (nominal).   If you have a newer PK232MBX (>
s/n 50000 and with multicolored LED's),  you will have a 7805 regulator in
place of the LM317T.  This fix still applies to the 7805 regulator circuit.


Tom Rohrer  AB5FH      Packet Address: AB5FH @ N5LJF.#AUS.TX.USA.NA
2008 Key West Cove
Austin, Tx. 78746
512-327-9294

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Date: 24 Jul 1992 09:33:51 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: A couple of EASY TCP/IP Questions
To: [e-mail]

I have a couple of probably pretty easy TCP/IP questions for the net.
I deal with TCP/IP on a mainframe VAX daily so I do know what it is,
how it works, which file do what, etc.  Amateur Packet TCP/IP is
non-existent in this area so there's no one to ask about software, etc.
SO, on to the questions:

I know there are several versions of NOS available.   I've looked through
several at UCSD.EDU.  Can someone give me a run down on differences and
preferences?

Can someone tell me who to request an IP address from in my area.
I'm located in Central Louisiana.

Tnx for any help

Ron - KA5LUG

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ron Wright - KA5LUG                Internet:  [e-mail]
User Support Specialist                       [e-mail]
Northwestern State University          SPAN:  7669::RON
Natchitoches, LA  71497
[phone]                       Packet:  [e-mail]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: 24 Jul 1992 11:12:02 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Anybody tried packet with Tandy 100?
To: [e-mail]

Donald K. George (KB6ZHN) writes:
>I've tried my M100 with an MFJ-1274 and a Yaesu FT-727.  After a minor mod
>to the TNC (changing a resistor value I think) had no trouble keying the
>radio.  Unfortunately, so much RF interference came out of the TNC cables,
>that it made it virtually impossible to receive anything unless you were
>almost on top of the transmitting station.

I've got an MFJ-1270b, and I'm having a similar problem, though I'm trying
to hook up to a Yaesu 411e HT and a Mac (haven't gone for the M100 yet).
First time through, I managed to get receive from my HT to the TNC fine, but
PTT didn't work. I was told by MFJ to add a resistor/capacitor combo to the
cable, which activated PTT fine, but brought a noise level of about S7 to
the HT receive, drowning out all incoming stations. Now I've gotten advice
to 1) move the antenna as far away as possible (though the interference
seems to be coming through the cable rather than through the air to the HT);
2) put the resistor inside in place of R107 (I think) and remove the
capacitor; and 3) (this came from MFJ support, gang) to shave off the paint
between the top and bottom covers and run a ground to the computer. No
offense, MFJ, but this seems like a lot of extra work for something that's
supposed to work off the shelf.
Donald, I'd like to hear in e-mail you hooked up to the 727, which is
probably similar to the 411, other than yours is a dual-bander while mine is
only 2m. I also would like to hear the resistor you used and where you put
it. MFJ has given me a lot of information at different times, lots of it
contradictory to the info received in the previous phone call. If you are
nearby, in Southern California (as your call might indicate), I'd like to
see your set up. I think it would help me (finally) get my system on the
air. Once I get the 411 and TNC hooked together, I'm going to get the M100
going too. Thanks...
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Andy Eddy-WB1FNV/6, 7J1ALH    Beverly Hills, California
Exec. Editor, VideoGames & Computer Entertainment Magazine
Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
Delphi: VIDGAMES      CompuServe: 70007,3554      Prodigy: CKJB66A
GEnie: VIDGAME      MCImail: VIDGAMES      America Online: VIDEOGAMES

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Date: 24 Jul 92 22:46:18 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!mtu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Anybody tried packet with Tandy 100?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (ANDY EDDY, VG&CE EXECUTIVE EDITOR) writes:
>
>Donald K. George (KB6ZHN) writes:
>>I've tried my M100 with an MFJ-1274 and a Yaesu FT-727.  After a minor mod
>>to the TNC (changing a resistor value I think) had no trouble keying the
>>radio.  Unfortunately, so much RF interference came out of the TNC cables,
>>that it made it virtually impossible to receive anything unless you were
>>almost on top of the transmitting station.

A friend of mine tried to use a model 100 or 102 (not sure which) with a Kam for amtor.
The results weren't pretty.  The tandy made so much noise that we couldn't keep the
Kenwood 440 from breaking squelch, and whenever the radio was keyed up, the tandy re-
booted.  We were operating outdoors with a 40m dipole about 15 feet up, 20 feet away.

Ken Friberg

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Date: 24 Jul 92 12:19:50 GMT
From: olivea!apple!constellation!uecok![e-mail]
Subject: Looking for UNIX version of NOS/TCP-IP
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>>>1.1.1
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Date: 24 Jul 92 15:37:46 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!tamsun.tamu.edu!cs.tamu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Windows Packet Program
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jeff Angus) writes:
|> Two comments on the pktwin04.zip posting:
|>
|> 1.      I decoded this four part package, and the zip file was corrupted.
|>         PKZIPFIX allowed me to extract things, but then the exe file failed
|>         the CRC.

Stuff like that happens.

|> 2.      Why was approximately 250K of uuencoded file posted to the entire
|>         network? Especially in light of the errors I received decoding it.
|>         What ever happened to posting a short brief of the programs abilities
|>         and availability via fpt, email or diskette mail.

What's to kvetch about?  That's nothing compared to what is in other
newsgroups.  Certainly, I would prefer it over the endless discussion on
Morse vs Morris! 8-}

Kurt

--
Kurt Freiberger, wb5bbw   [e-mail]   409/847-8607  fax:[phone]
Dept. of Computer Science, Texas A&M University      DoD #264: BMW R80/7 pilot
"We preserve our freedom using three boxes: ballot, jury, and cartridge."
      *** Not an official document of Texas A&M University ***

------------------------------

Date: 24 Jul 92 22:41:35 GMT
From: olivea!apple!apple!catnip![e-mail]
Subject: Windows Packet Program
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Jeff Angus) writes:

>Two comments on the pktwin04.zip posting:

>1.      I decoded this four part package, and the zip file was corrupted.
>        PKZIPFIX allowed me to extract things, but then the exe file failed
>        the CRC.

Or, it could have been zipped with the v1.9[51]/"2.01" zipper that's
floating around.  Guess that they didn't have a zipfile version
number buried in at the beginning.

--
Andrew Scott Beals [phone] any time                             KC6SSS
[e-mail]           ...!apple!catnip.berkeley.ca.us!abeals

Albert Einstein, when asked to describe radio, replied: "You see, wire
telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat.  You pull his tail in New
York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles.  Do you understand this?
And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they
receive them there.  The only difference is that there is no cat."

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Subject: Packet-Radio Digest V92 #200
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Packet-Radio Digest         Sun, 26 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 200

Today's Topics:
             "Cooling" Mod for the PK232
        9600 baud mod for Alinco 110, 112, 1200 radios
               duplex packet repeaters
               Windows Packet Program

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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 21:19:07 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!mips!darwin.sura.net!mojo.eng.umd.edu![e-mail]
Subject: "Cooling" Mod for the PK232
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (R M Kriss) writes:
>
>                    "Cooling" Mod for the PK232 MBX
> ...
>approximately 3 years.  A review of the schematic revealed that there was no
>series dropping resistor in series with the LM317T input.

The LM317T needs no series input resistor in this application.  What it does
probably need is a better heatsink.  Adding a series resistor makes the unit
suseptible to erratic operation during brownout conditions.

>dissipation power of the LM317T by approximately 30%.  Consequenty, the entire
>unit runs exceptionally cooler with no degradation in performance.

This is an illusion.  The power that was being dissipated in the LM317T's heat-
sink in now being dissipated in the resistors and the LM317T's heatsink.  The
key point here is that the power dissipation is EXACTLY THE SAME as it was
before you made your modification.  It is now just spread out a bit.

Don't do this modification.  It serves no real purpose.  The LM317T was never
in any peril.  This chip contains circuitry that will shut it down if it
is overheated.  It can run in this shutdown condition indefinitely without
damage.  All the above modification will succeed in doing is decrease the input
voltage range over which the TNC can reliably operate.  If you really want to
improve the lifetime of the regulator, work out a way to mount it to the
chassis, or give it a better heatsink.


Chuck Harris - WA3UQV
[e-mail]

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Date: 26 Jul 92 04:35:34 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbfsb!cbnewsb.cb.att.com![e-mail]
Subject: 9600 baud mod for Alinco 110, 112, 1200 radios
To: [e-mail]

copied from packet:
 Msg# TSF  Size #Rd  Date  Time From   MsgID        To
 2183 BF   3482   0 21-Jul 1657 KC6RIX 476_WF6O     ALINCO@USBBS ()
 Sb: 110, 112, 1200 MODS SAME!


Hello FELLOW Packeteers!  I just got off the phone with Matt from Alinco!
I have been asked if the 9600 baud Mod that I posted would also work for the
110.  YES IT WILL!  The 110, 112 and 1200 radios are identical except for
the power output of the 1200 (25-watts high power compared to the 45-watts of
the 110 and 112!) and the 112 has a LCD display to replace the piece of junk
one on the 110!  Also, if you want to have more power in the 1200, you can buy
the 100/112 PA Board (45-watts) for $65.00 from Alinco.  It also requires
buying 4 high power switching diodes for $20.00 from Alinco.  $85.00 for
20-watts?...Doesn't sound like a good investment to me.  Don't forget the time
involved with doing this mod.  I discourage the use of HIGH POWER and have
posted bulletins on this subject!  Never the less, I feel obligated to pass
this info on to you, I am not the U.S. Government, I will NOT keep things
from you!  To follow is the 9600 baud Mod I received from Alinco.  Alinco
warns that the Warranty is void if this Mod is performed!  KA1BOY has been
great enough to try this Mod and says it works great for 1200 baud as well
as 9600 baud!  From all of us to you, THANK YOU BARRY!  One point to remember,
you will not be able to use the radio for voice.  This mod uses the Mic
Connector...
                 TRANSMITTER
1.  Remove R-31
2.  Remove C-40 (save this part, it is to be reused!)
3.  Connect one leg of C-40 to PIN 7 of the VCO Board
4.  Connect a jumper from the free leg of C-40 to the HOT end of C-35
          The MIC input is now connected DIRECTLY to the VCO!

                   RECEIVER

1.  Disconnect the PINK wire connected to the MIC connector and the PC Board
    from the PC Board
2.  Reconnect the PINK wire to PIN 2 on the IF Board connector
     This eliminates the low pass filtering on the discriminator!

That is it to the MOD for the 110, 112, and the 1200!  Remember, you now use
the MIC Connector For inputting 9600 baud and it WILL work for 1200 baud!
A special note to all SYSOPS out there...Buy this radio and do this MOD!  It
will allow users to set their TXDelay down to a lower setting giving the
channel MORE throughput!  USERS, make a DONATION to your SYSOPS so they can
help make the system YOU are using, BETTER!  We must all do our part to help!
I would like to hear from all of you that tries this MOD!

I GIVE PARTIAL CREDIT TO BARRY, KA1BOY, FOR HIS INPUT ON THIS MODIFICATION!!!
73 FELLOW PACKETEERS!!!        DINO...KC6RIX @ WF6O.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA
==========================================================================
Note: I haven't tried or verified this, proceed at your own risk.  WA2ISE

------------------------------

Date: 25 Jul 1992 15:33:06 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: duplex packet repeaters
To: [e-mail]

Just another note on the duplex packet repeater operations.  I was in
Calgary a few months back (just moved to Winnipeg) and there was an
awful time trying to do something with the "backbone" on 145.01, so
a local ham put up a duplex bit-regenerative packet repeater on one
of the tall downtown bulidings and when people moved over, you could
actually get some data moved around.  It was phenomenol ... the data
throuput must have at least quadrupled ... lots of low power stations
being clobbered by higher powered stations ... lots of hidden nodes
... now that ve6pax is up, no problem.
just my 2 bits.
Dan

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dan Keizer, VE4DRK
[e-mail]       VE4DRK@VE4KV (AX.25) Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 22:06:09 GMT
From: usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!ubc-cs!newsserver.sfu.ca![e-mail]
Subject: Windows Packet Program
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Jeff Angus) writes:

>Two comments on the pktwin04.zip posting:

>1.      I decoded this four part package, and the zip file was corrupted.
>        PKZIPFIX allowed me to extract things, but then the exe file failed
>        the CRC.

Mike Willis decoded it also without problems as I see in another followup
posting to the original 4 parts.  I also didn't encounter any problems.
I used ZIP on a NeXT to check it out, and it PKUNZIP'ed (v1.01) on my
DOS box without problems.

>2.      Why was approximately 250K of uuencoded file posted to the entire
>        network? Especially in light of the errors I received decoding it.
>        What ever happened to posting a short brief of the programs abilities
>        and availability via fpt, email or diskette mail.

Is this that bad?  Do we need a rec.radio.amateur.packet.binaries now?
(And if the resultant zip file hadn't been "corrupted", would the comment
have still been made?  I generally retry the decoding from the original
article(s) before giving up on it being a "bad" posting...  There certainly
are much larger, more humungous postings in some other newsgroups...)

73 de Al VE7DPM
[e-mail]

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Packet-Radio Digest         Mon, 27 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 201

Today's Topics:
        9600 baud mod for Alinco 110, 112, 1200 radios
       Modem_w/FAX_CallerID_LCD_Display_up_to_16800cps

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Date: 26 Jul 92 20:51:55 GMT
From: swrinde!mips!spool.mu.edu!agate!stanford.edu!morrow.stanford.edu![e-mail]
Subject: 9600 baud mod for Alinco 110, 112, 1200 radios
To: [e-mail]

I have made this mod, and I have the following suggestions:
(a) you can get a "map" of the board via FAX or snail mail from Alinco
    -- this helps a LOT (it's impossible to read component labels) --
    Alinco is in Torrance Calif, in the phone directory.
(b) Throw away C40, it is impossible for a mere mortal to do what they
    are suggesting.  Replace that SMT C40 with an axial .01uf cap
    (non-polarized, anything kind you want, I used a tant.) and some
    insulation tubing over the leads (it needs to stretch 2 inches
    across the bottom of the pcb.

Alinco claims this mod makes 1200bps unusable, untrue, I use my modded
1200 on both 1200 and 9600 bps without noticable degredation of
performance.

Regards,
Paul
--
% lookup ampallang
    Word:  "ampallang"
 Suggestions:  1 employing  2 impaling  3 impelling  4 implying

------------------------------

Date: 26 Jul 92 21:30:50 GMT
From: questor.UUCP![e-mail]
Subject: Modem_w/FAX_CallerID_LCD_Display_up_to_16800cps
To: [e-mail]

I  have in front of me,  a  ZyXEL U-1496S modem.   This is the  sort  of
state-of-the-art-modem  I  would have had my group design were  I  still
working in modem research at Gandalf Data.

It has a 2 line by 20  character LCD display, menu-tree programming from
the  screen  via 4 pushbuttons,  and implements a whole bunch  of  CCITT
protocols up to 14,400  v.32bis/v.42.bis, and v.17 FAX. Needless to say,
it  does both sync and async,  and even has modes for use with  cellular
and satellite.

(Presently,   the operation modes are:   v.33;  v.32bis;   v.32;   v.29;
v.27ter;  v.22bis; v.22; BELL 212A; G3 FAX according to T30, v.17,  v.29
and v.27ter; and most variants.)

What does the display do besides allow you to program all the registers?
Well,  you can not only see the incoming connect speed,  but also things
like:
    - Signal-to-noise ratio
    - Received Carrier Power Level
    - Phase Jitter (p-p degrees with .1 deg resolution)
    - Frequency offset between TX and RX freqs (in .1 Hz res)
    - Round-trip echo delay in (1/2400 sec)

      ...and a whole lot more.

After your communication session has finished,  you can even call up (by
an AT-command) a "Link Status Report" which will give you:

    - Chars sent; Chars rcvd; Octets sent; Octets Rcvd
    - Blocks sent; Blocks rcvd; Blocks re-sent;
    - Max Outstanding; Max Block Size;
    - Retrain requests; Retrains granted; Link duration;
    - T401 timeouts; T402 Timeouts; FCS Errors;
    - Round-trip delay; Xmtr under-run; Rcvr Over-run
    - Reason for disconnect.

With the latest ROM revisions, it handles Caller ID, 4 different ringing
codes,   and the maximum speed is 16,800  baud.   (They are working,   I
believe on 19,200 baud.)

Finally, for the technically minded, it can even be supplied with X- and
Y-axis outputs for a scope, so that you can see "eye" or "constellation"
diagrams.

There  are three telephone receptacles for telco line connexions:    One
for  a local phone;  one for 2/4-wire leased-line,  and one  for  2-wire
dial-up  line.  (The dial-up line even supports telco 1A-key  system  A-
leads for lamp status control.)

Lots  of features have been left out of this little blurb to try to keep
it as short as I can.

Upgrades?  Well, they are via a couple of 27C010-15 (1Mb) ROMs,  and the
binaries are usually posted on their BBS,  or available via FTP or mail-
server from various sources (including here).  So, if you have access to
a ROM-burner, you can do the upgrades yourself.

Just  had  to let you know about this great little modem,  in  case  you
hadn't already heard.

Anyhow, having said all of that,  you can get most info (including TIFF-
image files at 300dpi)  from my mail-server.   To save space,  the files
have been compressed with ZOO,  which is available for most O/S from DOS
to UNIX.   (ZOO version 2.10 for DOS and for UNIX is available via mail-
server request from this site.)

To get started with the mail-server, send e-mail to:

    [e-mail]

and  in the body of the text,  enter the following at the  left  margin,
with nothing else in the body:

HELP
INFO
INFO INDEX
INFO FILINDX

Warm regards to all.

--
       Steve Pershing, System Administrator, The QUESTOR Project
  Offering FREE access to Sci, Med, & AIDS news, and more.  [also UUCP]
       on a ZyXEL-1496S v.42bis, v.32bis, v.33, up to 16,800bps.
  .-------------------------------------------------------------------.
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Packet-Radio Digest         Tue, 28 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 202

Today's Topics:
            Windows Packet Program

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Date: 27 Jul 92 15:08:21 GMT
From: susssys1.reading.ac.uk![e-mail]
Subject: Windows Packet Program
To: [e-mail]

Path: csug.cs.reading.ac.uk!ssuhouns
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:03:01 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Windows Packet Program
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Jeff Angus) writes:

>Two comments on the pktwin04.zip posting:

>1.      I decoded this four part package, and the zip file was corrupted.
>        PKZIPFIX allowed me to extract things, but then the exe file failed
>        the CRC.

>2.      Why was approximately 250K of uuencoded file posted to the entire
>        network? Especially in light of the errors I received decoding it.
>        What ever happened to posting a short brief of the programs abilities
>        and availability via fpt, email or diskette mail.

>xenon!skyld!jangus   < This space left blank intentionally. >
>J Angus, PO Box 4425, Carson CA 90749-4425 voice [phone]


Well if you are *REALLY* that worried about bandwidth, why post this, why not
EMail it :-)

Sorry if I offended *YOU* by positing somthing to this group, somthing I
thought might be usefull.  Well to me anyway *IF* I get any feedback.
However, this is a low volume group, and larger things are regularly posted
onto other groups that are far busier.  Maybe this is why :-)

Thanks to the others who also posted replies to this message in my support.
Although I don't consider myself a newbie (just don't post enough ;-), naive,
OK I'll admit to that.



Paul

----
73's de Paul                         The smelling pistakes are all my own.
Packet: G4YFY@GB7BEQ                 I have no employer (I retired ;-).
EMail:  [e-mail]  1985 K100RT                 DoD #0573

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Packet-Radio Digest         Wed, 29 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 203

Today's Topics:
              FT726R Mod's For 9600 Bps
                   LL Grace
           multimode packet controller, which one?
          PA2AGA NET/Mac 2.3.0 on ucsd.edu (2 msgs)
          Questions from a beginner (2 msgs)
                 unsubscribe
           Windows Packet Program (2 msgs)

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----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:39:24 GMT
From: orion.arc.nasa.gov![e-mail]
Subject: FT726R Mod's For 9600 Bps
To: [e-mail]

I am looking for information to modify a Yeasu FT-726R so that it can be
used to upload/download files from PacSat at 9600 Bps. Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

Carol


------------------------------

Date: 28 Jul 1992 08:43:58 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: LL Grace
To: [e-mail]

What is the address of LL Grace or a distributor that carries their
product? Thanks in advance.
-----------
Jon Maguire  N1CQE/4  |    ibm-vm: maguire@sppvm1 usib2tfc@ibmmail
IIN Customer Assist.  |    Packet: N1CQE@KB4GBS.#TPA.FL.USA.NA
Dept 7EF / Bldg PAV   |    voice: t/l:438-3038 external:(813)-878-3038
3105 W. M.L.King Blvd.|    fax  : t/l:438-3922 external:(813)-878-3922
Tampa, FL 33607       |    AMSAT #21847  TAPR #2916 TPALAN
              |    Internet: [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 01:53:03 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!mips!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu![e-mail]
Subject: multimode packet controller, which one?
To: [e-mail]

    I have been told many things about packet controllers.  The
bottom line is, which should i buy?  Is is it worth the money to 
buy a dsp unit like the one made by AEA?  Which one is the best
and why?

KC6DSE

Kieran
--
Kieran D. au440

------------------------------

Date: 28 Jul 92 13:12:39 GMT
From: RUTH.ECE.PSU.EDU![e-mail]
Subject: PA2AGA NET/Mac 2.3.0 on ucsd.edu
To: [e-mail]

I just uploaded to ucsd.edu version 2.3.0 of NET/Mac by PA2AGA.  The
following files are in the ~ftp/hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming directory:

netmac230.sit.hqx     - archive containing PA2AGA NET/Mac version 2.3.0
            executable.  This version has lots of bug fixes
            and enhancements not in earlier versions.

netmac.env.sit.hqx    - archive with some "environment" files, like
            autoexec.net, ftpusers, spool directories, etc...,
            plus the latest version of IM/Mac mailer by
            ON1XK.

Please contact Adam, PA2AGA ([e-mail]) for support questions, you
can contact me ([e-mail]) if you have trouble uncompressing
the distribution files.

Brian -- Maybe you could move these to a directory like
~ftp/hamradio/packet/tcpip/mac or ~ftp/hamradio/packet/tcpip/pa2aga ???

73 - Joe AF2J

------------------------------

Date: 28 Jul 1992 06:49:51 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: PA2AGA NET/Mac 2.3.0 on ucsd.edu
To: [e-mail]


I just uploaded to ucsd.edu version 2.3.0 of NET/Mac by PA2AGA.  The
following files are in the ~ftp/hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming directory:

netmac230.sit.hqx     - archive containing PA2AGA NET/Mac version 2.3.0
            executable.  This version has lots of bug fixes
            and enhancements not in earlier versions.

netmac.env.sit.hqx    - archive with some "environment" files, like
            autoexec.net, ftpusers, spool directories, etc...,
            plus the latest version of IM/Mac mailer by
            ON1XK.

Please contact Adam, PA2AGA ([e-mail]) for support questions, you
can contact me ([e-mail]) if you have trouble uncompressing
the distribution files.

Brian -- Maybe you could move these to a directory like

73 - Joe AF2J
Adam van Gaalen (  [e-mail])
         or ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: 28 Jul 92 18:59:27 GMT
From: swrinde!mips!sdd.hp.com!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!fcom.cc.utah.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Questions from a beginner
To: [e-mail]

     I've just heard some of the basics about packet radio, and I have some
questions.  If there is a FAQ that answers these questions, then just ignore
this post and I'll get the FAQ when it comes along.

1 - How much does it cost to get a basic transciever that will connect to my
    computer?

2 - Can I get a tranceiver that will pretend that it's a telephone so that I
    can use my current modem?

3 - Once I have the equipment, how do I go about "getting connected?"  Do  I
    have to register in my area or just go online?  (Admittedly not very
    likely.)

4 - What types of communications protocols are used?  What is KA9Q, and is
    it THE protocol?
--
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Date: 28 Jul 92 21:49:21 GMT
From: dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!pilot.njin.net![e-mail]
Subject: Questions from a beginner
To: [e-mail]

> 1 - How much does it cost to get a basic transciever that will connect to my
>    computer?

Depend on if you buy new or used.  Certainly under $300.

> 2 - Can I get a tranceiver that will pretend that it's a telephone so that I
>     can use my current modem?

No, the modem that you have will probably not deal with the nature of
the radio.  Amateur radio transceivers are not full duplex devices and
need to be told when to transmit and when to receive.  There are
however some very cheap packet modems that use the smarts of the
computer, though the traditional way is to use a TNC which looks like
a modem but contains a Z80 inside that does some of the protocol and
other housekeeping for you.

> 3 - Once I have the equipment, how do I go about "getting connected?"  Do  I
>    have to register in my area or just go online?  (Admittedly not very
>    likely.)

We don't need no stinking registration.  You just connect like you
were dialing up a BBS (Ok, so maybe it's a little more involved than
that).  The individual BBS's may require setup, but it's totally
analagous to telephone bbs.  You do need to get a license, but with
the elimination of the morse code requirement, this is just a
formality.

> 4 - What types of communications protocols are used?  What is KA9Q, and is
>    it THE protocol?

The underlying protocol is AX.25 (which is as it sounds, a variation
on X.25).  This can be used by itself or in conjunction with other
protocols.  Most user -> system interaction is still exclusively X.25,
though some people use TCP/IP.  The routing infrastructure typically
uses another protocol of which there are a few in use.

KA9Q is the amateur radio callsign of Phil Karn.  It is used to refer
to his network program for the PC, originally done to allow TCP/IP
to be used with packet radio.  However, the later version of the code
includes an operating system called "NOS" that provides a multitasking
environment helpful in network hacking so KA9Q supports all kinds of
things now.

------------------------------

Date: 28 Jul 1992 10:03:42 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: unsubscribe
To: [e-mail]

unsubscribe all



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Date: 28 Jul 92 17:36:23 GMT
From: usc!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!aukuni.ac.nz!mercury!nacjack![e-mail]
Subject: Windows Packet Program
To: [e-mail]

> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeff Angus) writes:
> >2.      Why was approximately 250K of uuencoded file posted to the entire
> >        network?

>Posted by an overenthusiastic newcomer whose eagerness outran his good
>judgement.  Now he knows better, eh?

I disagree. It was aimed at a particular target audience, and it was
aimed to get the widest distribution. The majority of the news reading
public do not have direct access to FTP. Albeit they have it thru the
remote mail servers, but mail costs excessive amounts of money in this
country, so I for one, am jolly glad that he posted it to the newsgroup
or I would never have seen it.

IMHO of course.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
And Noah Spake unto his children: "Scattered showers my arse!"

FIDONET: Richard Vowles 3:772/110.0         USENET: [e-mail]
Packet Radio: ZL1UTF@ZL1AB.#11.AKL.NZL.OC   The Demi-Monde: 199:310/1

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Date: 27 Jul 92 15:03:01 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!yoyo.aarnet.edu.au!arnie.systems.sa.gov.au!mars.lands.sa.gov.au!csug.cs.reading.ac.uk![e-mail]
Subject: Windows Packet Program
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Jeff Angus) writes:

>Two comments on the pktwin04.zip posting:

>1.      I decoded this four part package, and the zip file was corrupted.
>        PKZIPFIX allowed me to extract things, but then the exe file failed
>        the CRC.

>2.      Why was approximately 250K of uuencoded file posted to the entire
>        network? Especially in light of the errors I received decoding it.
>        What ever happened to posting a short brief of the programs abilities
>        and availability via fpt, email or diskette mail.

>xenon!skyld!jangus   < This space left blank intentionally. >
>J Angus, PO Box 4425, Carson CA 90749-4425 voice [phone]


Well if you are *REALLY* that worried about bandwidth, why post this, why not
EMail it :-)

Sorry if I offended *YOU* by positing somthing to this group, somthing I
thought might be usefull.  Well to me anyway *IF* I get any feedback.
However, this is a low volume group, and larger things are regularly posted
onto other groups that are far busier.  Maybe this is why :-)

Thanks to the others who also posted replies to this message in my support.
Although I don't consider myself a newbie (just don't post enough ;-), naive,
OK I'll admit to that.



Paul

----
73's de Paul                         The smelling pistakes are all my own.
Packet: G4YFY@GB7BEQ                 I have no employer (I retired ;-).
EMail:  [e-mail]  1985 K100RT                 DoD #0573

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Packet-Radio Digest         Thu, 30 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 204

Today's Topics:
     Counterproposal to the ARRL Digital Committee Recommendation
        data compression with packet:  legal?
            Details of BCD format needed!
                 G3RUH modem
           multimode packet controller, which one?
                Packet & OS/2
              Status of BayCom?
                TAPR ?
               TNC'less Packet on Mac?
           Windows Packet Program  (2 msgs)

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:32:25 GMT
From: stanford.edu!CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU!umunhum![e-mail]
Subject: Counterproposal to the ARRL Digital Committee Recommendation
To: [e-mail]

Summary:

Given the arguments made in the report by the ARRL Committee on Amateur Radio
Digital Communications, an estimation of the needs of the autoforwarding BBS
community, and an understanding of the technical state of the art, the
concept of unattended HF automatic forwarding should be reconsidered.  The
following are suggestions in this regard.


1. A 10 kHz allocation, channelized initially at 500 kHz.

A typical BBS net operation today requires the passage of about 100 1KB
messages per day.  Allowing a growth factor of 10, this represents about
1MB, or 8Mb of throughput per day, or about 97 bits per second per link.
Simple compression techniques (for example, fixed Huffman compression)
can reduce this to less than 51 bits per second.

This is certainly attainable today given better HF packet implementations
and operational practices, and is more than attainable with future systems,
especially CLOVER.

A 10 kHz allocation represents 20 basic forwarding channels using frequency
multiplexing.  Proper allocation and power management should result in
doubling this figure to 40 links.  Future transmission improvements will
allow more links to be added using time division muliplexing.

2. Allocations on the 12, 17, and 30m bands.

The Committee's report indicated considerable opposition to unattended
operation in the 20 and 40 meter bands.  This opposition is understandable,
given both the history of the bands and the nature of the existing
unattended operations.  20 and 40 meters have existed as amateur bands for
decades, and as a result, a considerable degree of inertia exists.  Given
the relatively uncoordinated nature of the existing STA operation, many
of the established operations, especially on 20m, experienced an unwelcome
intrusion upon well established practices.

In contrast, the new "WARC" bands have only existed for about a decade.
Regular operational patterns have yet to be established, and the bands are
much less populated.  A special allocation of 10 kHz in each band would
have minimal impact on users of other modes.  Clearly, the "new" spectrum
of the WARC bands should reflect new usage and new modes.  Such an allocation
would allow a link to follow the Optimal Frequency throughout the daily cycle.

3. 100w output power to a 10dbi or greater directive antenna.

In keeping with considerations made in point (1) above, output power from the
transmitter should be limited to less than 100w.  To limit the spatial
coverage of the channel, at least 10dbi of antenna directivity should be
required.

4. Unattended HF autoforwarding by Extra Class Licensees only.

Given the history of existing HF packet operations, it becomes very clear
that operator mistakes are largely responsible for the poor throughput of
existing HF packet operations.  While Extra Class Licensees are not perfect,
they do represent a group of operators who have shown a willingness to
study the radio art beyond the average operator.  Moreover, some means of
limiting eligible operators is necessary, given the limited number of
channels.

5. A coordinated operation has precedence over an uncoordinated operation.

The actual allocation of channels to operators is similar to that for
FM repeaters.  While the existing system of coordination is far from
perfect, it is preferable to having the FCC coordinate the allocation.

These are the basic proposals that need to be codified into Part 97.  This
necessarily leaves a number of issues open to be setted by the community
of HF autoforwarding operators, especially coordination.  The reason for
doing so lies in allowing the state of the art to determine the actual
operation, rather than the state of the law.

--
-=Paul Flaherty, N9FZX/5W1JX  | "What a difference an hour can make."
->[e-mail]          |         -- Vernor Vinge

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:51:20 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!The-Star.honeywell.com!umn.edu!noc.msc.net!uc.msc.edu!apctrc!wsc![e-mail]
Subject: data compression with packet:  legal?
To: [e-mail]

this may belong in .policy, but since there are also technical concerns,
I'll start here.

let's say someone wanted to setup something on packet (more likely on
HF packet) to use data compression between two stations.  note, I did
*NOT* say encryption....just data compression.

first, would this be legal?  my immediate guess is that it would be,
but that it's probably worth asking the question.

second, there are obviously lots of technical concerns.  the type of
system I'm kinda thinking about would be an error-control/data compression
scheme very much like that used with modems (V.42/V.42bis, for example).
naturally, it isn't as simple as that with packet, but....

assuming that everything uses KISS, and that it is possible to enforce
the block size/PACLEN settings such that no data block ever gets split
into two packets, does this sound like a good thing?

of course, if you don't split the data block between packets, you really
don't need extra error control...just something to make sure that packets
don't get lost somewhere along the way.  QUESTION:  AX.25 already does
this this, right?

next question:  does anyone know where I could find a very good, very
detailed description of the KISS protocol?  how about AX.25?  (or can I
just get the specs for X.25 and then get some diffs?)

any info appreciated....
   --jim

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Date: 29 Jul 92 13:36:56 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!bu.edu!dartvax!pranny![e-mail]
Subject: Details of BCD format needed!
To: [e-mail]

Hi.
    Would anyone know of a source of data on the BCD format?
Trying to do ASCII<->BCD translation.

                Thanks,
                    Lee.

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:48:50 GMT
From: usc!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!LRZnews!bauv106!bauv106![e-mail]
Subject: G3RUH modem
To: [e-mail]

Hello !

Where can I find the description of this modem and of the
used modulation method ? Where is the original article ?

Thanks
Claude, DJ0OT

------------------------------

Date: 29 Jul 92 15:24:15 GMT
From: idacrd![e-mail]
Subject: multimode packet controller, which one?
To: [e-mail]



------------------------------

Date: 29 Jul 1992 12:00:42 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Packet & OS/2
To: [e-mail]

For years I have been wondering how I was going to get my PK232MBX, my
Totalham logging program, my Kenwood TS-940, my mouse, and my modem all
working at the same time.  The solution came in the form of responses to a
post that I put out asking:

     How do you overcome the IRQ3 and IRQ4 conflict problem when using
com1,2, 3, and 4?


     The solution came from a sysop in Canada.

For those of you who want a similar setup you must:

1.  Use a bus mouse - this poses no conflict.
2.  With you first serial card (COM1 and COM2), hook up the two devices that
you normally would use with the exception of the mouse (it is taken care of
on the dedicated bus).  COM1 and COM2 are usually configurable for IRQ4 and
IRQ3 respectively.  The problem arises when you purchase your next
inexpensive serial card that will configure COM3 and COM4, but again uses
IRQ4 and IRQ3 respectively.  Here comes the tricky part.
3.  KEEP THE PAPERWORK that comes with the card.  You will have to hardwire
IRQ3 line to the IRQ5 pin on the card, and hardwire the IRQ4 line to the IRQ2
pin on the card.  Once you have done this you can hookup your PK232 and your
radio to COM3 and COM4 with no conflicts.  Note the the jumper settings for
IRQ3 or 4 are now IRQ5 or 2.

This solution worked for me.  I am using an 80386DX with 8megs of ram running
at 25mhz.  All applications; ProComm Plus 2.0 (accessing com1), Lan-Link
(accessing Com2), my Kenwood Control program (accessing Com3).  I plan to use
another com program dedicated to packet on Com4 - this way I can use RTTY,
AMTOR, CW or any of the other digital modes through COM1 connected to the
940, and stay connected to the DX packet cluster on COM4.

If you are unfamiliar with any of the above procedures, check with a
technician before you do them.  I will not be responsible if this dosn't work
for you.  (SORRY - HAVE TO PUT A DISCLAIMER).

Good luck for those of you that try this, and if anyone has any other
solutions please send them to me.  I have other lists that I post to, and I'm
sure others would like the knowledge.

73 Bob

[e-mail]                 PACKET KZ2T@WB2DRD.#SNJ.NJ.USA.NA
PRODIGY - PHTT51A                       FRC DX NET VHF 145.530 KZ2T@K3WW

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:41:46 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!caen!nic.umass.edu!hamp.hampshire.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Status of BayCom?
To: [e-mail]

Subject: Status of BayCom?

I just started experimenting with packet and BayCom again after a lapse
of many months.  I obtained BayCom version 1.50a a while ago and it seems
to have a lot of improvements over versions 1.2 and 1.4 which I had used
in the past.  I've also upgraded my system substantially, and can now
run BayCom on a 486 with 4M of memory; I also have Windows 3.1 and OS/2
version 2.0.

I have several questions for anyone on the net who might know:

1. Is version 1.50a the latest version available?
2. Is printed documentation available in English for dollars from
   somewhere in the US?
3. Are there any ways to make BayCom take advantage of extra memory
   so I might have room to run larger applications from the OS Shell?
4. Has anyone experimented with BayCom under Windows or OS/2?
5. On one occasion my system crashed with graphic characters in the
   prompt and unresponsive even to ctrl-alt-del upon exiting from a
   long BayCom session. I think it happened during execution of the
   OFF command; all the SCC files were saved properly before the crash.
   Does anyone have experience with this kind of thing or ideas about
   what happened?
6. Is there any mailing list or archive site where I can find other
   info about BayCom?

73 de Al Woodhull   N1AW
[e-mail]

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Date: 29 Jul 1992 23:45:53 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: TAPR ?
To: [e-mail]

Hello dear packetter,

I found TAPR118 in UCSD.EDU .
I use a clone release 1.1.6 for now.

Question : Where can i found TAPR116, TAPR117 (and clone) ?

It is because i have not all documents to use it, especially
SLOT commands, and other.

Many thanks to answer me.

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Date: 26 Jul 92 22:40:13 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!wupost!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!doug.cae.wisc.edu!umn.edu!kksys.com!orbit!pnet51![e-mail]
Subject: TNC'less Packet on Mac?
To: [e-mail]

I wonder if somebody has come up with something analogous to the BayComm idea
for the Mac -- that is, make up a simple modem for your serial port, and let
the computer do the TNC emulating work.

Idea:  all the TCP/IP software is available in a Mac version.  It expects a
TNC in KISS mode.  Can one come up with a cheap KISS-only modem in some way?

Any ideas along this line would be appreciated.

: John Seboldt...Minneapolis, MN...As a ham, K0JD...as a human,       :
: right-brained yet right-handed...as a musician, techie yet creative :
:   UUCP: {crash, kksys, petrus, quest}!orbit!pnet51!jseboldt         :
:   ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51![e-mail]                        :
:   INET: [e-mail]                                  :

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 14:48:28 GMT
From: usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!spacm1.spac.spc.com!xenon!skyld![e-mail]
Subject: Windows Packet Program
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

  > [e-mail] (Jeff Angus) writes:
  > > Why was approximately 250K of uuencoded file posted to the entire net?
  >
  > Sorry if I offended *YOU* by posting somthing to this group

No, actually I apologize.
My original remarks should have been emailed not posted to the net.

xenon!skyld!jangus   < This space left blank intentionally. >
J Angus, PO Box 4425, Carson CA 90749-4425 voice [phone]

------------------------------

Date: 30 Jul 92 07:42:10 GMT
From: csus.edu!netcomsv!mork![e-mail]
Subject: Windows Packet Program
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Paul Marshall Hounslow) writes:
>[e-mail] (Jeff Angus) writes:
>
>>Two comments on the pktwin04.zip posting:
>
>>1.      I decoded this four part package, and the zip file was corrupted.
>>        PKZIPFIX allowed me to extract things, but then the exe file failed
>>        the CRC.
>
>>2.      Why was approximately 250K of uuencoded file posted to the entire
>>        network? Especially in light of the errors I received decoding it.
>>        What ever happened to posting a short brief of the programs abilities
>>        and availability via fpt, email or diskette mail.
>
>>xenon!skyld!jangus   < This space left blank intentionally. >
>>J Angus, PO Box 4425, Carson CA 90749-4425 voice [phone]
>
>
>Well if you are *REALLY* that worried about bandwidth, why post this, why not
>EMail it :-)

ditto.  I wonder how much bandwidth all of this thread has taken.

>
>Sorry if I offended *YOU* by positing somthing to this group, somthing I
>thought might be usefull.  Well to me anyway *IF* I get any feedback.
>However, this is a low volume group, and larger things are regularly posted
>onto other groups that are far busier.  Maybe this is why :-)
>
>Thanks to the others who also posted replies to this message in my support.
>Although I don't consider myself a newbie (just don't post enough ;-), naive,
>OK I'll admit to that.
>

Thanks for posting it.  I for one down loaded it immediately and begin
using it.
--
Mont Pierce

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------------------------------

Date: (null)
From: (null)
This is a difficult question to answer.  If you only want to do standard
RTTY, AMTOR, HF and VHF packet, then go with one of the more traditional
units such as the PK-232MBX.  The DSP units provide a multitude of other
functions and are capable of doing much more than they already are doing.
The scope of their capabilities at this time are limited only by the
imagination and energy of the software writers and the rate at which the
DSP executes instructions and we are just barely beginning to see that
edge as we construct some really fancy algorithms to run on them.  As
to which is best, this is also complicated.  If what you care about is
getting the best modems, then ask for opinions on which of the two DSP
multimodes has the best modems and you will get opinions on that from
many people and you will have to filter the response based on the
usage, mode, etc. and see whether or not it impacts the way you want to
use the unit.  If you care about tinkering around inside the units,
the LL Grace unit, with a couple of hundred dollar addition which includes
memory upgrade and a license and copy of the source code (NOT DSP source,
host source) comes with it.  Both units support the uploading of modems
and I know that AEA is very actively pursuing the construction of new modems
since I am writing them.  At this time, if you care about doing RTTY/AMTOR
Baudot and HF packet with the unit and also wish to pay for the ability
to do fancier and greater things later (many now, more later) this suite
of modems has been extensively tested and the AEA modems for RTTY/AMTPR
and HF packet are demonstrably better.  The LL Grace unit can be easily
upgraded with new software to provide better modems and I can only assume
that this is being pursued but I think your question is about now and not
what might be.  Both of these units have a large suite of modems to support
satellites.  There are two versions of the AEA box, one which is capable
of running two modems at once whilst hooked to two different radios (AEA
is shipping these ROMS now or will be shortly, they are not waiting on
me).  The cost, support available, etc. all should be factors in your
decision.  As I have already stated, as this is just a quick note jotted
down at lunchtime here and you can see that I have given a lengthy reply
which may or may not be an answer to your question, this is a complicated
question and more is needed from you on how you intend using this stuff.

Bob



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End of Packet-Radio Digest V92 #204
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 04:30:02 PDT
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Subject: Packet-Radio Digest V92 #205
To: packet-radio


Packet-Radio Digest         Fri, 31 Jul 92       Volume 92 : Issue 205

Today's Topics:
Counterproposal to the ARRL Digital Committee Recommendation (2 msgs)
              Packet on a HP1000
            PE1CHL history wanted
              Questions from a beginner
             Ramblings of an OF.
            Request for assistance
       Time for a no code Extra Class? was "Counterproposal..."
               TNC'less Packet on Mac?
           Windows Packet Program FTP SITE?

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Date: 30 Jul 1992 15:19:53 GMT
From: ucsd.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Counterproposal to the ARRL Digital Committee Recommendation
To: [e-mail]

Restricting auto-forwarding to Extra class licensees is silly.  We've
just managed to eliminate CW elitism on VHF and now we're trying to
reinstate it on HF.

There is no significant correlation between license class and operating
ability.*

If Paul means this as a conciliatory sop to the entrenched die-hards, he
should say so.

    - Brian

*I was once told that there IS a significant correlation between license
class and income.  Fraud (i.e., purchased licenses) can't be the major
reason; I wonder what is?

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:49:32 GMT
From: morrow.stanford.edu!w6yx![e-mail]
Subject: Counterproposal to the ARRL Digital Committee Recommendation
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Brian Kantor) writes:

>Restricting auto-forwarding to Extra class licensees is silly.  We've
>just managed to eliminate CW elitism on VHF and now we're trying to
>reinstate it on HF.

Given the limited number of channels, the only allocation scheme that seems
fair is to limit it to Extras.  If you have a better idea, please say so.

>If Paul means this as a conciliatory sop to the entrenched die-hards, he
>should say so.

Not likely.

>*I was once told that there IS a significant correlation between license
>class and income.  Fraud (i.e., purchased licenses) can't be the major
>reason; I wonder what is?

If in fact this is true, it's another argument in favor of the restriction.
People involved in this operation by definition need to stay at the
leading edge of the state of the art, which is uncheap.

--
-=Paul Flaherty, N9FZX/5W1JX  |"Anyway, nothing can beat Good Old American
->[e-mail]          | Know - How." -- Harry Canyon, _Heavy Metal_

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Date: 30 Jul 1992 23:51:06 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Packet on a HP1000
To: [e-mail]

Who has been able to install a Packet-Radio program like NET or NOS
on a minicomputer like a HP1000 ?

Please if someone did, contact me.

Regards, Wim

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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 00:47:36 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!caen!mtu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: PE1CHL history wanted
To: [e-mail]

I am in need of a current version of the history file for PE1CHL.  If any
one knows where I can find it, or knows what the add-ons to the attach
command are (specifically the attach packet option) I would be extremely
greteful for your assistance.

Thanks in advance
Ken Friberg n8pbe

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 10:19:06 EDT
From: sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!n8emr!bluemoon![e-mail]
Subject: Questions from a beginner
To: [e-mail]

> > 3 - Once I have the equipment, how do I go about "getting connected?"  Do
> >    have to register in my area or just go online?  (Admittedly not very
> >    likely.)
>
> We don't need no stinking registration.  You just connect like you
> were dialing up a BBS (Ok, so maybe it's a little more involved than
> that).  The individual BBS's may require setup, but it's totally
> analagous to telephone bbs.  You do need to get a license, but with
> the elimination of the morse code requirement, this is just a
> formality.
>
It's a little more than a formality, we hope.  The morse code
requirement was the formality, and the exams try to keep you
within the law and ask you to know a little about radio.
Get in touch with a local ham (radio amateur), and GL (Good Luck),
and 73 (Best Regards) [e-mail]

 This is from
     [e-mail]
who doesn't have his (or her) own obnoxious signature yet

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Date: 30 Jul 92 19:40:16 GMT
From: walter!porthos!vixen![e-mail]
Subject: Ramblings of an OF.
To: [e-mail]

To : All of those who hate, like, love the ARRL.

As many will tell you it is a very rare occasion for me to "take
pen in hand" and post something to the net.

I have been following all the "chit-chat" regarding: 1.) Ohio
protesting, 2.) AMSAT is better than the ARRL, 3.) ARRL is
better than AMSAT, 4.) HF packet, 5.) non-HF packet, 6.) etc.

I am a member of ARRL but I find it of little value to me. I keep
my membership because I do not know of any other organization
with the "clout" in Washington that the ARRL does. I feel that
if I ask someone to do something for me (use their "clout" for me
in Washington) I should be willing to aid them financially or some
other way. So I say to you "ARRL bashers" until something better
comes along swallow your pride and work within the limitations
of what you have. I do not think I would like to have my company
represented by the "good old boy" psychology that "the nine old
men of Newington" (anybody remember FDR these days) have but I guess
it would be better than no representation.

To me QST is a catalog of advertising. Since I am arthritic
and also a business person and (without any derogation) not an EE.
Trying to wind 4000 turns of number 40 wire on a T-5000 core with
taps every 15 turns is not only impossible but leaves me cold. Why
can't we have more on the fun of Hamming and less on the projects
for the homebrewer. I take my hat off to the people that design
these things and do it doubly for those that build them and make
them work. You may say "why don't you write an article or story."
Believe me my wife is still laughing at my latest attempt at that
and it has been five years now.

I disagree with the ARRL on their approach on packet on HF. I
agree 1000% that when they bring up W1AW they should not be
required to check each frequency to see if it is clear. In both
cases I have let my feelings be know.

This may be the ramblings of a 65 year old advanced amateur who
enjoys packet, AMTOR, RTTY; loves to rag chew and *ESPECIALLY*
loves CW, *BUT* for the life of me can not understand Newingtons
hang up on 13, and 20 words of CW per minute to be able to
upgrade. I guess it is the "I know it is modern times with
computers, TNCs, ROBOTS, etc. but I suffered to get my upgrade
and I will not hold still for you not suffering like I did".
GOD HELP US ALL.

I assume this will generate some flame, but so be it. The only
thing I ask is send it via e-mail since the net is cluttered
up enough now.

73s for all the guys and 88s to all the gals. (Sexist remark
acknowledged.)
All standard disclaimers should be applied at this point.
David C. Marden, Bell Communications Research, 100 Schultz Dr. P.O.
Box 7050 Red Bank, NJ 07701 908-758-5643 vixen![e-mail]
Also known as King Edward the second, Amateur Golfer (KE2AG)

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Date: 30 Jul 92 08:51:34 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!ncar!unmvax!uservx.plk.af.mil![e-mail]
Subject: Request for assistance
To: [e-mail]

I am sorry for the cross-post, but this is as close as I can get.

I know that there is a newsgroup called rec.radio.amateur.marketplace (or
something similar), but I can not get to it from my location.  Could
someone please dump all the postings to a file and E-mail it to me just
one time?  I want to buy a used HF radio at a hamfest in 2 weeks, and need
an idea on what used prices are like.  Alternately, is there a site where
I could 'anonymous ftp' recent postings?

Please E-Mail if you can help (to prevent several people from doing the
same task).
                   Thanks in advance,
                      Mark (N5XYV)

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Date: 30 Jul 92 16:41:24 GMT
From: olivea!tymix!niagara![e-mail]
Subject: Time for a no code Extra Class? was "Counterproposal..."
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Brian Kantor) writes:
>Restricting auto-forwarding to Extra class licensees is silly.  We've
>just managed to eliminate CW elitism on VHF and now we're trying to
>reinstate it on HF.
>
>There is no significant correlation between license class and operating
>ability.*
>
>If Paul means this as a conciliatory sop to the entrenched die-hards, he
>should say so.
>
>       - Brian
>
>*I was once told that there IS a significant correlation between license
>class and income.  Fraud (i.e., purchased licenses) can't be the major
>reason; I wonder what is?

Right on Brian!

Face it the FCC stopped short of real reform.  I propose a dual ladder
system.  No different privledges though.  I think all that stuff just
gets in the way of experimentation.  No!  I say it's braggin rights
at stake here and I for one feel the weight of it's importance at the
heart of this very discussion.

The whole Technician thing was kind of a missque though.  Who can tell
the coded ones from the not coded ones?  Nope, gotta be different names
too.

I propose the following;

Code                         No-Code
Technician                   Technician       (face it the FCC will never
                           admit it was wrong here)

General                      Dude

Advanced                     Major Dude

Amateur Extra                Amateur Excellent  (both most bodacious Hams!)

Oh well, Just a thought... :)

- Bill {WB6RFW}

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:33:54 -0400
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: TNC'less Packet on Mac?
To: [e-mail]

SoftKiss is an init/cdev/driver that drives a ham radio
modem from a macintosh. It gets your mac on packet radio
without a tnc.  Softkiss can use poor mans packet modems
from the IBMPC world.  This is version 1.2.1.  The previous
version was an application which required multifinder.  This
version is an init/cdev/driver that can run under finder or
multifinder on any mac system 6.x or 7.x.

Softkiss is available from internet host akutaktak.andrew.cmu.edu
[128.2.35.1] as /aw0g/softkiss.1.2.1.hqx.  It is also on compuserv
hamnet sig lib 9

NET/Mac is also required.  It is available from the same archives.

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Date: 30 Jul 1992 07:40:31 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Windows Packet Program FTP SITE?
To: [e-mail]

I missed the UUENCODED posting of this program and would like to
get a copy but by ftp if possible.  I've never had much luck with
the UU stuff here.

Tnx for any response.

Ron - KA5LUG

Note:  My address is a new one.  Not all servers have picked it up
and some replys are getting bounced when the reply command is used
from mail.  Reply tries to send to just NSULA.EDU which for some
reason isn't doing it right now.  It needs the full address:  ALPHA.NSULA.EDU
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Ron Wright - KA5LUG                Internet:  [e-mail]
User Support Specialist
Northwestern State University        SPAN:    7669::RON
Natchitoches, LA  71497
[phone]                     Packet:    [e-mail]
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