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- Subject: misc.invest FAQ on general investment topics (Table of Contents)
- Message-ID: <invest-faq-toc_733224570@informatik.Uni-KL.DE>
- Followup-To: misc.invest
- Summary: Answers to frequently asked questions about investments.
- Should be read by anyone who wishes to post to misc.invest.
- Originator: lott@bogner.informatik.uni-kl.de
- Keywords: invest, stock, bond, money, faq
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- Compiler: Christopher Lott, lott@informatik.uni-kl.de
-
- This is the table of contents for the general misc.invest FAQ.
-
- Articles in this FAQ discusses issues pertaining to money and
- investment instruments, specifically stocks, bonds, and things
- like options and life insurance. For extensive information on
- mutual funds, see the mutual fund FAQ, which is posted regularly
- to misc.invest and maintained by timlee@btr.btr.com. Subjects
- more appropriate to misc.consumers are not included here.
-
- Disclaimers: This information is guaranteed to change over time
- and is probably out of date already. Mention of a product does
- not constitute an endorsement. Answers to questions closer to
- the bottom of the list may rely on information given in prior
- answers. Readers outside the USA can reach US-800 telephone
- numbers, for a charge, using a service such as MCI's Call USA.
- All prices are listed in US dollars unless otherwise specified.
-
- In addition to being posted monthly, the FAQ is available from
- the news.answers archive on host rtfm.mit.edu. Using FTP, fetch
- the files "/pub/usenet/news.answers/investment-faq/general/*"
- Or, send an e-mail request to "mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu" with the
- body "send usenet/news.answers/investment-faq/general/*"
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- misc.invest information and programs.
-
- Please send comments and new submissions to the compiler.
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-
- TABLE OF CONTENTS
-
- Sources for Historical Stock Information
- Beginning Investor's Advice
- American Depository Receipts (ADR)
- Beta
- Bonds
- Books About Investing (especially stocks)
- Bull and Bear Lore
- Computing the Rate of Return on Monthly Investments
- Computing Compound Return
- Discount Brokers
- Dividends on Stock and Mutual Funds
- Dollar Cost and Value Averaging
- Direct Investing and DRIPS
- Future and Present Value of Money
- How Can I Get Rich Really Quickly?
- Hedging
- Investment Associations (AAII and NAIC)
- Investment Jargon
- Life Insurance
- Money-Supply Measures M1, M2, and M3
- One-Line Wisdom
- Options on Stocks
- P/E Ratio
- Renting vs. Buying a Home
- Retirement Plan - 401(k)
- Savings Bonds (from US Treasury)
- Shorting Stocks
- Stock Index Types
- Stock Index - The Dow
- Stock Indexes - Others
- Stock Splits
- Technical Analysis
- Ticker Tape Terminology
- Treasury Direct
- Uniform Gifts to Minors Act (UGMA)
- Warrants
- Wash Sale Rule (from U.S. IRS)
- Zero-Coupon Bonds
-
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-
- Compiler's Acknowledgements:
- My sincere thanks to the many submitters for their efforts. Also thanks to
- Jonathan I. Kamens for his guidance on FAQs and his post_faq perl script.
-
- Compilation Copyright (c) 1993 by Christopher Lott, lott@informatik.uni-kl.de
- --
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- From: lott@informatik.uni-kl.de (Christopher Lott)
- Subject: misc.invest FAQ on general investment topics (part 1 of 3)
- Message-ID: <invest-faq-p1_733224570@informatik.Uni-KL.DE>
- Followup-To: misc.invest
- Summary: Answers to frequently asked questions about investments.
- Should be read by anyone who wishes to post to misc.invest.
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- Keywords: invest, stock, bond, money, faq
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- This is the general FAQ for misc.invest, part 1 of 3.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ~Subject: Sources for Historical Stock Information
- ~From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu, nfs@princeton.edu, gary@intrepid.com,
- discar@nosc.mil, irving@Happy-Man.com, ddavis@gain.com,
- krshah@us.oracle.com, cr@farpoint.tucson.az.us, skrenta@usl.com,
- clark@soldev.tti.com
-
- There are no free sources for historical stock information on the Internet.
-
- Paid services include:
- + Prodigy. US$15/month for basic service includes 15 minute delayed
- quotes on stocks at NO additional charge. Additional US$15/month for
- historical data download service (flat fee). Available via local
- dial-up all over the US. Contact them at 800-PRO-DIGY.
-
- + Compuserve. US$8.95/month for basic service includes 15-min delayed
- quotes on stocks and options and access to (mutual) Fund Watch Online.
- Historical quotes are available for about US$.05 each. Available via
- local dial-up all over the US. Contact them at 800-848-8990.
-
- + Genie. US$4.95/month for today's closing quotes. Genie Professional
- service (price not given) gives historical quotes, stock reports,
- different investment s/w, access to Charles Schwab and online trading.
- Contact them at ............
-
- + Farpoint. ($4 or $8/week for an IBM-compatible diskette) provides
- daily high, low, close, and volume for for approximately 6000 stocks.
- They offer historical data from 1 July 89 to present. Write to
- Farpoint, 3412 Milwaukee Avenue, Suite 477, Northbrook, Illinois 60062.
- Also see the listing for the Farpoint BBS below.
-
- + Xpress. Broadcasts stock quotes and news via cable TV in the US.
- Decoder costs $125 and provides 9600-baud serial-line output.
- Tier 1 service is free and includes quotes 3x/day and news stories.
- Tier 2 service costs $22/month and adds 15-min delayed quotes and
- investment blurbs. Ftp a UNIX Xpress-reader from ftp.acns.nwu.edu
- in directory pub/xpress. Beware that your local cable rep. may not
- know that the cable co. offers it! Contact Xpress at 800-7PC-NEWS.
-
- + Worden Brothers TeleChart 2000. PC software costs $29. Historical
- data costs 1/2-cent/day for minimum 300 days, 1/4-cent thereafter,
- and includes high, low, close, and volume. Offers data from about 1988
- for every listed and OTC issue and many indexes. Toll-free number for
- downloading data at 14.4K baud. Contact them at 800-776-4940.
-
- + Dow Jones News Retrieval. Stock, bond, mutual, index quotes as well
- as news articles on companies, and misc. analysis packages. US $25
- per month flat rate for the after hours service (8pm-5am local time).
- Available via dailup over Tymnet and SprintNet; available via Internet.
- Contact them at ............
-
- + Standard & Poor's Compustat (most complete and most expensive).
- Contact them at ............
-
- + Disclosure's "Compact Disclosure" on CD (only $6,000 a year).
- Contact them at ............
-
- + Value Line's Database
- Contact them at ............
-
- Bulletin Boards for historical stock information include:
- + The Farpoint BBS offers a free source of historical stock data
- (about 3 years worth). They give you 120 minutes of free time
- daily and have historical data files on hundreds of stocks.
- Phone number is +1 (312) 274-6128.
-
- + The Business Center BBS in San Diego carries most issues on the
- NYSE, NASDAQ, and AMEX. It is free but limits on-line time to
- 20 minutes. Phone number is +1 (619) 482-8675.
-
- + FinComm BBS. "The Online Magazine Of Wall Street Computing."
- Individual daily quotes available for free. US$50/year buys a premium
- account that offers unlimited access to historical stock data.
- Phone number is +1 (212) 752-8660.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ~Subject: Beginning Investor's Advice
- ~From: pearson_steven@tandem.com, egreen@east.sun.com
-
- Investing is just one aspect of personal finance. People often seem to
- have the itch to try their hand at investing before they get the rest
- of their act together. This is a big mistake. For this reason, it's
- a good idea for "new investors" to hit the library and read maybe read
- three different overall guides to personal finance - three for different
- perspectives, and because common themes will emerge (repetition implies
- authority?). Anyway, what I'm talking about are books like:
-
- Madigan and Kasoff, The First-Time Investor, ISBN 0-13-942376-1
- Andrew Tobias,
- [Still] the Only [Other] Investment Guide You Will Ever Need.
- (3 versions with slightly different titles, all very similar.)
- Sylvia Porter, New Money Book for the 80s
- Money Magazine, Money Guide
- and maybe Charles Givens, [More] Wealth without Risk (see ** below)
-
- Another good source is the Mutual Fund Education Alliance (MFEA); write
- them at MFEA, 1900 Erie Street, Suite 120, Kansas City, MO 64116.
-
- What I am specifically NOT talking about is most anything that appears
- on a list of investing/stock market books that are posted in misc.invest
- from time to time. You know, Market Logic, One Up on Wall Street,
- Beating the Dow, Winning on Wall Street, The Intelligent Investor, etc.
- These are not general enough. They are investment books, not personal
- finance books.
-
- Many "beginning investors" have no business investing in stocks. The
- books recommended above give good overall money management, budgeting,
- purchasing, insurance, taxes, estate issues, and investing backgrounds
- from which to build a personal framework. Only after that should one
- explore particular investments. If someone needs to unload some cash in
- the meantime, they should put it in a money market fund, or yes, even a
- bank account, until they complete their basic training.
-
- While I sympathize with those who view this education as a daunting task,
- I don't see any better answer. People who know next to nothing and
- always depend on "professional advisors" to hand-hold them through all
- transactions are simply sheep asking to be fleeced (they may not actually
- be fleeced, but }ost of them will at least get their tails bobbed). In
- the long run, you are the only person ultimately responsible for your
- own financial situation.
-
- ** Caveats about Charles Givens: some of his ideas are on the aggressive
- side (as opposed to conservativei. For example, some of his suggestions
- about insurance might be considered too risky for some folks, and he also
- makes aggressive interpretations of tax law. People have to find their
- own comfort level on tvel on tvel on tvel on tvel on tormatik.uni-kl.de +49 (631) 205-3334, -3331 Fax
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- From: lott@informatik.uni-kl.de (Christopher Lott)
- Subject: misc.invest FAQ on general investment topics (part 1 of 3)
- Message-ID: <invest-faq-p1_733224570@informatik.Uni-KL.DE>
- Followup-To: misc.invest
- Summary: Answers to frequently asked questions about investments.
- Should be read by anyone who wishes to post to misc.invest.
- Originator: lott@bogner.informatik.uni-kl.de
- Keywords: invest, stock, bond, money, faq
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- This is the general FAQ for misc.invest, part 1 of 3.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ~Subject: Sources for Historical Stock Information
- ~From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu, nfs@princeton.edu, gary@intrepid.com,
- discar@nosc.mil, irving@Happy-Man.com, ddavis@gain.com,
- krshah@us.oracle.com, cr@farpoint.tucson.az.us, skrenta@usl.com,
- clark@soldev.tti.com
-
- There are no free sources for historical stock information on the Internet.
-
- Paid services include:
- + Prodigy. US$15/month for basic service includes 15 minute delayed
- quotes on stocks at NO additional charge. Additional US$15/month for
- historical data download service (flat fee). Available via local
- dial-up all over the US. Contact them at 800-PRO-DIGY.
-
- + Compuserve. US$8.95/month for basic service includes 15-min delayed
- quotes on stocks and options and access to (mutual) Fund Watch Online.
- Historical quotes are available for about US$.05 each. Available via
- local dial-up all over the US. Contact them at 800-848-8990.
-
- + Genie. US$4.95/month for today's closing quotes. Genie Professional
- service (price not given) gives historical quotes, stock reports,
- different investment s/w, access to Charles Schwab and online trading.
- Contact them at ............
-
- + Farpoint. ($4 or $8/week for an IBM-compatible diskette) provides
- daily high, low, close, and volume for for approximately 6000 stocks.
- They offer historical data from 1 July 89 to present. Write to
- Farpoint, 3412 Milwaukee Avenue, Suite 477, Northbrook, Illinois 60062.
- Also see the listing for the Farpoint BBS below.
-
- + Xpress. Broadcasts stock quotes and news via cable TV in the US.
- Decoder costs $125 and provides 9600-baud serial-line output.
- Tier 1 service is free and includes quotes 3x/day and news stories.
- Tier 2 service costs $22/month and adds 15-min delayed quotes and
- investment blurbs. Ftp a UNIX Xpress-reader from ftp.acns.nwu.edu
- in directory pub/xpress. Beware that your local cable rep. may 2 = ( p_2 - p_1 + d_2 ) / p_1
-
- Here r denotes return, p denotes price, and d denotes dividend. The
- following table of monthly data may help in visualizing the process.
- Monthly data is preferred in the profession because investors' horizons
- are said to be monthly.
- ===========================================
- # Date Price Dividend(*) Return
- ===========================================
- 0 12/31/86 45.20 0.00 --
- 1 01/31/87 47.00 0.00 0.0398
- 2 02/28/87 46.75 0.30 0.0011
- . ... ... ... ...
- 59 11/30/91 46.75 0.30 0.0011
- 60 12/31/91 48.00 0.00 0.0267
- ===========================================
- (*) Dividend refers to the dividend paid during the period. They are
- assumed to be paid on the date. For example, the dividend of 0.30
- could have been paid between 02/01/87 and 02/28/87, but is assumed
- to be paid on 02/28/87.
-
- So now we'll have a series of 60 returns on the stock and the index
- (1...61). Plot the returns on a graph and fit the best-fit line
- (visually or using some least squares process):
-
- | * /
- stock | * * */ *
- returns| * * / *
- | * / *
- | * /* * *
- | / * *
- | / *
- |
- |
- +------------------------- index returns
-
- The slope of the line is Beta. Merrill Lynch, Wells Fargo, and others
- use a very similar process (they differ in which index they use and in
- some econometric nuances).
-
- Now what does Beta mean? A lot of disservice has been done to Beta in
- the popular press because of trying to simplify the concept. A beta of
- 1.5 does *not* mean that is the market goes up by 10 points, the stock
- will go up by 15 points. It even *doesn't* mean that if the market has
- a return (over some period, say a month) of 2%, the stock will have a
- return of 3%. To understand Beta, look at the equation of the line we
- just fitted:
-
- stock return = alpha + beta * index return
-
- Technically speaking, alpha is the intercept in the estimation model.
- It is expected to be equal to risk-free rate times (1 - beta). But it
- is best ignored by most people. In another (very similar equation) the
- intercept, which is also called alpha, is a measure of superior performance.
-
- Therefore, by computing the derivative, we can write:
- Change in stock return = beta * change in index return
-
- So, truly and technically speaking, if the market return is 2% above its
- mean, the stock return would be 3% above its mean, if the stock beta is 1.5.
-
- One shot at interpreting beta is the following. On a day the (S&P-type)
- market index goes up by 1%, a stock with beta of 1.5 will go up by 1.5% +
- epsilon. Thus it won't go up by exactly 1.5%, but by something different.
-
- The good thing is that the epsilon values for different stocks are
- guaranteed to be uncorrelated with each other. Hence in a diversified
- portfolio, you can expect all the epsilons (of different stocks) to
- cancel out. Thus if you hold a diversified portfolio, the beta of a
- stock characterizes that stock's response to fluctuations in the market
- portfolio.
-
- So in a diversified portfolio, the beta of stock X is a good summary of
- its risk properties with respect to the "systematic risk", which is
- fluctuations in the market index. A stock with high beta responds
- strongly to variations in the market, and a stock with low beta is
- relatively insensitive to variations in the market.
-
- E.g. if you had a portfolio of beta 1.2, and decided to add a stock
- with beta 1.5, then you know that you are slightly increasing the
- riskiness (and average return) of your portfolio. This conclusion is
- reached by merely comparing two numbers (1.2 and 1.5). That parsimony
- of computation is the major contribution of the notion of "beta".
- Conversely if you got cold feet about the variability of your beta = 1.2
- portfolio, you could augment it with a few companies with beta less than 1.
-
- If you had wished to figure such conclusions without the notion of
- beta, you would have had to deal with large covariance matrices and
- nontrivial computations.
-
- Finally, a reference. See Malkiel, _A Random Walk Down Wall Street_, for
- more information on beta as an estimate of risk.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ~Subject: Bonds
- ~From: ask@cbnews.cb.att.com
-
- Bonds are debt instruments. Let's say a corporation needs to build
- a new office building, or needs to purchase manufacturing equipment,
- or needs to purchase aircraft, they will have to raise money.
-
- One way is to arrange for banks or others to lend them money. But a
- generally less expensive way is to issue (sell) bonds. The corporation
- will agree to pay dividends on these bonds and at some time in the
- future to redeem these bonds.
-
- In the U.S., corporate bonds are often issued in units of $1,000.
- When municipalities issue bonds, they are usually in units of $5,000.
- Dividends are usually paid every 6 months.
-
- Bondholders are not owners of the corporation. But if the corporation
- gets in financial trouble and ndAgs to dissolve, bondholders must be
- paid off in full before stockholders get anything.
-
- If the corporation defaults on any bond payment, any bondholder can
- go into bankruptcy court and request the corporation be placed in
- bankruptcy.
-
- The price of a bond is a function of prevailing interest rates (as
- rates go up, the price of the bond goes down, and vice versa) as
- well as
- well as
- well as
- well as
- well.de
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-
- This is the general FAQ for misc.invest, part 1 of 3.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ~Subject: Sources for Historical Stock Information
- ~From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu, nfs@princeton.edu, gary@intrepid.com,
- discar@nosc.mil, irving@Happy-Man.com, ddavis@gain.com,
- krshah@us.oracle.com, cr@farpoint.tucson.az.us, skrenta@usl.com,
- clark@soldev.tti.com
-
- There are no free sources for historical stock information on the Internet.
-
- Paid services include:
- + Prodigy. US$15/month for basic service includes 15 minute delayed
- quotes on stocks at NO additional charge. Additional US$15/month for
- historical data download service (flat fee). Available via local
- dial-up all over the US. Contact them at 800-PRO-DIGY.
-
- + Compuserve. US$8.95/month for basic service includes 15-min delayed
- quotes on stocks and options and access to (mutual) Fund Watch Online.
- Historical quotes are available for about US$.05 each. Available via
- local dial-up all over the US. Contact them at 800-848-8990.
-
- + Genie. US$4.95/month for today's closing quotes. Genie Professional
- service (price not given) gives historical quotes, stock reports,
- different investment s/w, access to Charles Schwab and online trading.
- Contact them at ............
-
- + Farpoint. ($4 or $8/week for an IBM-compatible diskette) provides
- daily high, low, close, and volume for for approximately 6000 stocks.
- They offer historical data from 1 July 89 to present. Write to
- Farpoint, 3412 Milwaukee Avenue, Suite 477, Northbrook, Illinois 60062.
- Also see the listing for the Farpoint BBS below.
-
- + Xpress. Broadcasts stock quotes and news via cable TV in the US.
- Decoder costs $125 and provides 9600-baud serial-line output.
- Tier 1 service is free and includes quotes 3x/day and news stories.
- Tier 2 service costs $22/month and adds 15-min delayed quotes and
- investment blurbs. Ftp a UNIX Xpress-reader from ftp.acns.nwu.edu
- in directory pub/xpress. Beware that your local cable rep. may inning of the year into some mutual
- fund or like account, with $Y added to the account every month.
- Now, down the road, if the value at any given month "i" is Vi, what
- conclusions can be drawn from it ?
-
- The relevant formula is F = P(1+i)**n - p((1+i)**n - 1)/i
- where F is the future value of your investment (i.e., the value after
- n periods), P is the present value of your investment (i.e., the amount
- of money you invest initially), p is the payment each period (p is
- negative if you are adding money to your account and positive if you
- are taking money out of your account), n is the number of periods you
- are interested in, and i is the interest rate per period.
- You cannot manipulate this formula to get a formula for i; you have
- to use some sort of iterative method or buy a financial calculator.
-
- One thing to keep in mind is that i is the interest rate *per period*.
- You may need to compound the rate to obtain a number you can compare
- apples-to-apples with other rates. For instance, a 1 year CD paying
- 12% interest is not as good an investment as an investment paying 1%
- per month for a year. If you put $1000 into each, you'll have $1120
- in the CD at the end of the year but $1000*(1.01)**12 = $1126.82 in
- the other investment due to compounding. I always convert interest
- rates of any kind into a "simple 1-year CD equivalent" for the purposes
- of comparison.
-
- See also the 'irr' program which has been posted to misc.invest several times.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ~Subject: Computing Compound Return
- ~From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu, chen@digital.sps.mot.com
-
- To calculate the compounded return, just figure out the factor by which
- the investment multiplied. Say $1000 went to $3200 in 10 years.
- Take the 10th root of 3.2 (the multiplying factor) and you get a
- compounded return of 1.1233498 (12.3% per year). To see that this works,
- note that 1.1233498**10 = 3.2.
-
- Another way of saying the same thing: In my calculation, I assume all
- the gains are reinvested so following formula applies:
- TR = (1 + AR) ** YR
- where TR is total return, AR is annualized return, and YR is year. To
- calculate annualized return otherwise, following formula applies:
- AR = (10 ** (Log TR/ YR)) - 1
- Thus a total return of 950% in 20 years would be equivalent of 11.914454%
- annualized return.
-
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-
- ~Subject: Discount Brokers
- ~From: davida@bonnie.ics.uci.edu, edwardz@ecs.comm.mot.com, gary@intrepid.com
-
- A discount broker is merely a way to save money for people who are looking
- out for themselves.
-
- According to Charles Schwab, the big difference between them and "the other
- guys" is that there is no analyst sitting in the back that will call you up
- and encourage you to purchase a stock. They have people there that can
- provide good financial advice--but only if you ask. If you walk in the door
- and say "I want to buy XXX", that's what they'll do.
-
- All transactions with E-Trade are apparently initiated through either touch-
- tone phone or computer. They are particularly cheap ($0.015/share, min $35).
-
- List of US discount brokers and phone numbers:
-
- Accutrade First National 800 762 5555
- K. Aufhauser & Co. 800 368 3668
- Brown & Co. 800 343 4300
- Fidelity Brokerage 800 544 7272
- Kennedy, Cabot, & Co. 800 252 0090 213 550 0711
- Lombard 800 688 3462
- Barry Murphy & Co. 800 221 2111
- Norstar Brokerage 800 221 8210
- Olde Discount 800 USA OLDE
- Pacific Brokerage Service 800 421 8395 213 939 1100
- Andrew Peck Associates 800 221 5873 212 363 3770
- Quick & Reilly 800 456 4049
- Charles Schwab & Co. 800 442 5111
- Scottsdale Securities 800 727 1995 818 440 9957
- Stock Cross 800 225 6196 617 367 5700
- Vanguard Discount 800 662 SHIP
- Waterhouse Securities 800 765 5185
- Jack White & Co. 800 233 3411
- E-Trade 800 786 2573 415 326 2700
-
- Here is a table to compare commissions at various discount brokers. This is
- based on commission schedules gotten at various times in 1991 and 1992.
- These tables are for stocks only, not bonds or other investments.
-
- $2000 trades
- Firm 400@ 5 200@ 10 100@ 20 50@ 40 25@ 80
- K. Aufhauser $ 43.49 $ 27.49 $ 25.49 $ 25.49 $ 25.49
- Pacific Brokerage $ 29.00 $ 29.00 $ 29.00 $ 29.00 $ 29.00
- Jack White & Co. $ 45.00 $ 39.00 $ 36.00 $ 34.50 $ 33.75
- Kennedy, Cabot, & Co. $ 38.00 $ 38.00 $ 38.00 $ 23.00 $ 23.00
- Bidwell & Co. $ 41.25 $ 31.25 $ 27.25 $ 25.75 $ 23.50
- Quick & Reilly $ 50.00 $ 50.00 $ 49.00 $ 49.00 $ 49.00
- Olde Discount $ 35.00 $ 50.00 $ 40.00 $ 40.00 $ 40.00
- Vanguard Discount $ 57.00 $ 57.00 $ 48.00 $ 40.00 $ 40.00
- Fidelity Brokerage $ 63.50 $ 63.50 $ 54.00 $ 54.00 $ 54.00
- Charles Schwab $ 64.00 $ 64.00 $ 55.00 $ 55.00 $ 55.00
- E-Trade $ 35.00 $ 35.00 $ 35.00 $ 35.00 $ 35.00
-
- $8000 trades
- Firm 1600@ 5 800@ 10 400@ 20 200@ 40 100@ 80
- K. Aufhauser $ 90.50 $ 61.50 $ 43.49 $ 27.49 $ 25.49
- Pacific Brokerage $ 36.00 $ 44.00 $ 29.00 $ 29.00 $ 29.00
- Jack White & Co. $ 81.00 $ 57.00 $ 45.00 $ 39.00 $ 36.00
- Kennedy, Cabot, & Co. $ 123.00 $ 63.00 $ 38.00 $ 38.00 $ 38.00
- Bidwell & Co. $ 84.75 $ 56.75 $ 45.25 $ 39.25 $ 30.25
- Quick & Reilly $ 79.00 $ 79.00 $ 79.00 $ 79.00 $ 49.00
- Olde Discount $ 67.50 $ 95.00 $ 70.00 $ 60.00 $ 40.00
- Vanguard Discount $ 82.00 $ 82.00 $ 82.00 $ 82.00 $ 48.00
- Fidelity Brokerage $ 109.00 $ 102.70 $ 102.70 $ 102.70 $ 54.00
- Charles Schwab $ 120.00 $ 103.20 $ 103.20 $ 103.20 $ 55.00
- E-Trade $ 35.00 $ 35.00 $ 35.00 $ 35.00 $ 35.00
-
- $32000 trades
- Firm 6400@ 5 3200@ 10 1600@ 20 800@ 40 400@ 80
- K. Aufhausdr $ 194.50 $ 138.50 $ 90.50 $ 72.50 $ 67.50
- Pacific Brokerage $ 132.00 $ 68.00 $ 36.00 $ 44.00 $ 29.00
- Jack White & Co. $ 161.00 $ 97.00 $ 81.00 $ 57.00 $ 45.00
- Kennedy, Cabot, & Co. $ 195.00 $ 99.00 $ 123.00 $ 63.00 $ 38.00
- Bidwell & Co.