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- From: jacobs@cells.cs.utah.edu (Steven R Jacobs)
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- Subject: rec.gambling Changes to Frequently Asked Questions
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- Date: 6 Aug 1993 00:00:49 -0400
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- > G2 What casino game has the best odds?
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- > G17 What is BARGE?
- > G18 Where the hell is Elko Nevada?
- > G19 Where the hell is Foxwoods?
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- > Q:G2 What casino game has the best odds?
- > A:G2 (Steve Jacobs)
- >
- > In general, blackjack is the most favorable game in the casino. The
- > house edge for blackjack ranges from about 0.15% to 0.45%, depending
- > on the house rules and number of decks. Occasionally, single deck
- > games can be found which give a slight edge to the player (as of June 93,
- > the Frontier in Vegas has been dealing such a game consistently for the
- > past year or so). The house edge for other casino games is listed below.
- > In games involving skill, these numbers assume that an optimal betting
- > and playing strategy is used.
- >
- > Video Poker (Jacks or better, "9/6" payoffs): 0.5%
- > Progressive Video Poker ("8/5" payoffs): 2.2% to -2%
- > Craps line bets with single odds: 0.8%
- > Craps line bets with double odds: 0.6%
- > Baccarat "bank" bet: 1.06%
- > Baccarat "player" bet: 1.24%
- > Red Dog: 2.8%
- > Roulette, double zero wheel: 5.26%
- > Roulette, single zero wheel (rare): 2.6%
- > Keno (estimate): 20% to 25%
- > State Lottery: 50% or more
- >
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- < Strip: King Alburt Motel
- ---
- >
- > Strip: King Alburt Motel, 185 Albert Ave. (off Kovel, behind the Maxium)
- 536,538c565,566
- < weekly rental. They are happy to negotiate! I don't believe they
- < have a toll-free number, but I'm not sure. Their regular number is
- < (702) 732- 1555
- ---
- > weekly rental. They are happy to negotiate! Their phone number is
- > (800)-553-7753 or (702) 732- 1555
- 539a568,570
- > Caveat Emptor: Another rec.gambler says to avoid this place,
- > it is a dump.
- >
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- > Q:G17 What is BARGE?
- > A:G17 (Steve Jacobs)
- >
- > BARGE stands for "Big August Rec.Gambling Excursion". This is the
- > annual rec.gambling gathering, so far always in August (can you
- > imaging a worse time to go to Vegas?), but if we go some other month
- > we can change the "August" to "Annual" in order to preserve the acronym.
- >
- > The first BARGE consisted of maybe a dozen people, mostly in Vegas
- > to attend SIGGRAPH '91 (well, at least that's how they got their
- > companies to pay the airfare). BARGE 2 had more attendees, about
- > 20 in all, and included meetings at the Frontier, GBC, and a live
- > poker tournament.
- >
- > Previous BARGE trips have been mostly spontaneous events, with little
- > advance planning and consequently little advance notice, so if you
- > couldn't drop everything and fly to Vegas then you missed out. BARGE 3
- > can only be bigger, now that we've set an Aug. 7 date well in advance.
- > No excuses, if you miss out on BARGE this year it's your own fault.
- >
- >
- > Q:G18 Where the hell is Elko Nevada?
- > A:G18 (Mike Northam, Steve Jacobs)
- >
- > [NOTE: Elko is about 120 miles west of the Utah/Nevada border. --SRJ]
- >
- > Casino Express (800) 258-8800 or (800) 654-0888 in Canada, owned by the
- > people who run the Elko Red Lion Inn, runs numerous junkets to Elko, NV.
- > They own at least one Boeing 737 aircraft, and charter several others on
- > weekends. They fly from several western cities (Seattle, Bellingham,
- > Spokane, Portland, Eugene, Salem, San Jose, Fresno, Modesto, Santa Maria,
- > Ontario, Denver, Salt Lake City, etc.) and have multiple-day junkets from
- > Canadian and midwest cities (Minneapolis, Mason City, etc.)
- >
- > The casino has BJ, single and double deck, Northern Nevada rules (H17, DD
- > 10/11 only). $5 minimum for single deck. Penetration varies with the
- > dealer, so there apparently isn't a house rule. There is no heat
- > whatsoever, so 10:1 spreads are no problem. During the 'gambling frenzy'
- > of the last few moments before the airport bus departs, *massive* spreads
- > are possible--I've gone from $5 to $200 (40:1) no problem. All the
- > tables are *always* full, so two rounds of seven is all you'll see on the
- > single deck. There's also craps, roulette, and a small sports book.
- > Keno for the truly adventuresome :-).
- >
- > From Portland, the junket cost is $49 for a 12-hour turnaround flight
- > [these are $19 from Salt Lake, so you're price may vary], you have to show
- > $300 in cash to board the flight. Since it's a charter flight, there is a
- > nice party atmosphere on board the plane. Your play is rated, and
- > presumably, if you don't gamble enough, you might be barred from a future
- > flight, though this hasn't been a problem for any of my friends.
- >
- > Elko also has a poker room, but it doesn't open until 5 pm. They play
- > 7-stud ($1-$4) and Texas Hold'em ($4-$10). These can be great games if
- > there are several junket people (junkies?) at the table. You can also
- > fleece the locals if you catch them offguard, since they have great
- > difficulty believing that anyone who flys to Elko could know anything
- > about poker.
- >
- >
- > Q:G19 Where the hell is Foxwoods?
- > A:G19 Dave Tahajian
- >
- > There is now an Email alias group to exchange information about Foxwoods!
- > This alias can be used for just about any topic; how to get there, new
- > game info, special events, carpooling and ride sharing, places to stay
- > and eat in the area, or just about anything to do with Foxwoods!
- >
- > I invite anyone who goes to Foxwoods to join our group.
- > Just send some Email to: foxwoods-request@aries.East.Sun.COM
- >
- >
- 1460c1562
- < You would be well-advised to also:
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- > If you are the least bit risk-adverse, you should also:
- 1462d1563
- < Surrender 8-8 vs. 10
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