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- Reported by David A. Borman/Cray Research, Inc.
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- TELNET Minutes
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- This was a rather short meeting. We met as a group for the first half
- of the meeting, and then adjourned to meet with the Authentication/
- Privacy and Security Research Group (PSRG) joint meeting.
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- In our meeting we discussed:
- Problems/questions about the 4.3Reno version of telnet/telnetd. One
- problem is that the latest BSD release does not send telnet ``Synch''
- commands. The code is there, but it is commented out. This is because
- some clients do not handle a ``synch'' properly, and get stuck in a
- loop. It was decided that it would be better to release the code with
- this feature turned on, with an option to turn it off if some site has a
- problem with it.
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- The ``Don't Telnet'' option was discussed again. There has been some,
- but not a lot of interest in it. Bill Westfield said that he would send
- it out again with a drop dead date. If people can't agree that it is a
- good idea by the December IETF we will not have any future discussion on
- it.
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- There was discussion of using telnet for running printers. There were
- two main things mentioned: first you want to be able to connect to a
- box and say which terminal port you want to connect to, and you want to
- be able to send across information about how to set up the hardware on
- the remote side. The discussion revolved around whether or not this
- sort of stuff belonged in telnet, or in a higher level protocol, and if
- it was in telnet, how much could be done with existing options (like
- ENVIRON)? It was decided that first someone needs to write up a list of
- what functionality is needed to do printers over telnet, and then look
- at that list and see how it maps into the current telnet spec, before a
- decision can be made on whether or not it belongs in telnet, and if it
- does, will any new telnet options be needed.
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- There was some discussion about international character sets. At this
- point, we don't really know what to do about them. Should telnet know
- about them? How is CR/NL mapping handled? Nothing was decided, this
- issue will have to be pursued at a later date.
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- It was decided that we would like to start looking at reviewing/
- editing/re-writing the base Telnet RFC. Joyce Reynolds said that Jon
- Postel has a whole bunch of notes collected over the years that she will
- make available in some form. Part of the next Telnet WG meeting will be
- used to get the editing of the Telnet RFC started.
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- It was requested that the tn3270 mailing list be put in the minutes of
- the meeting. The list is at WG3270-L@UMDD.UMD.EDU. To subscribe send
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- The Working Group then adjourned, and went to meet with the
- Authentication/PSRG joint meeting. When we arrived, they were deep in
- discussion about SNMP authentication. When that was wrapped up, David
- Borman gave a brief overview to the group about the proposed Telnet
- Authentication option, and what was hoped to be accomplished with it.
- There was then discussion. The basic question that we wanted answered
- was ``Should we have a Telnet Authentication option, or should the
- authentication be done outside of the realm of Telnet, such as in a
- connection initiation protocol, which would happen before telnet started
- up?'' This question was not answered, there were arguments for both
- sides.
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- Without going into all the pros and cons of what was discussed, there
- were two main things that came out of the discussion:
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- 1. There needs to be a clear written description of what the Telnet
- Authentication is to be used for. The ``motivation'' section of
- the draft RFC is a bit terse, and should be expanded.
- 2. The Telnet Working Group will continue to develop the
- authentication option. Experimental implementations are being
- started. Having an implementation and experience about it will be
- useful in answering the question ``Do we need it?''.
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- The Telnet Working Group will meet next at the December IETF meeting in
- Colorado.
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- Attendees
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- Richard Basch probe@mit.edu
- Dave Borman dab@opus.cray.com
- Philip Budne phil@shiva.com
- Anthony Chung anthony@hls.com
- George Conant geconant@eng.zyplex.com
- Mark Crispin mrc@cac.washington.edu
- Kevin Fall kfall@Berkeley.EDU
- Neil Haller nmh@bellcore.com
- Russell Hobby rdhobby@ucdavis.edu
- Steven Hubert hubert@cac.washington.edu
- Ajay Kachrani kachrani%regent.dec@decwrl.dec.com
- Michael Karels karels@berkeley.edu
- Luping Liang liang@cs.ubc.ca
- Joyce K. Reynolds jkrey@venera.isi.edu
- Dana Sitzler dds@merit.edu
- Frank Solensky solensky@interlan.interlan.com
- Allen Sturtevant sturtevant@ccc.nmfecc.gov
- Dean Throop throop@dg-rtp.dg.com
- Bill Westfield billw@cisco.com
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