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- VIRUS-L Digest Friday, 21 Apr 1989 Volume 2 : Issue 96
-
- Today's Topics:
- re: Hiding Viruses by Intercepting Output
- McAfee's SENTRY a-v software (PC)
- re: Virus disassemblies (PC)
-
- [Ed. I apologize for sending out such a short digest; we're testing a
- mail<-->news gateway and need something to feed it.]
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- Date: 21 April 1989, 08:51:33 EDT
- From: David M. Chess <CHESS@YKTVMV.BITNET>
- Subject: re: Hiding Viruses by Intercepting Output
-
- > Could anyone tell me how this method of hiding a virus
- > would fail?
-
- The "Brain" virus (I think it is) does something very much like
- this. It fails when a user who is checking out an infected
- diskette does the checkout on a *clean* system, in which the
- virus hasn't gotten control. Another illustration of how
- important it can be to get your system into a known clean
- state before doing virus-scanning. DC
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- Date: FRI APR 21, 1989 11.47.23 EST
- From: "David A. Bader" <DAB3@LEHIGH.BITNET>
- Subject: McAfee's SENTRY a-v software (PC)
-
- I just had the chance to try out John McAfee's Sentry Anti-viral
- software for the PC, and frankly - it is worthless. I followed the
- instructions on installation, and it automatically places itself in
- autoexec.bat and reboots (maybe John, you could have told me that you
- were going to modify my file, or that you would do a cold boot - for
- me, it matters.) Anyway, After Sentry did a check of filesize and a
- random checksum at the beginning, middle, and end of every file on my
- harddisk, it told me nothing. Ok, so I run Sentry a second time just
- to see what happens and I get told my interrupt vectors have changed
- and I should contact someone because that could mean a virus. Have you
- ever heard about FASTOPEN, or FluShot Plus, or one million other
- programs that I give permission to to take over my interrupt vectors?
- You could at least scan the memory tables and tell me who the owner of
- the interrupt vectors is. And then, after taking a minute to scan all
- my files, I would appreciate "XXXXX file changed since last use" - NOT
- "3 files were modified".. Useless, John, absolutely useless.
-
- -I'm sticking with FluShot Plus!
- -David Bader
- DAB3@LEHIGH
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- Date: 21 April 1989, 14:06:08 EDT
- From: David M. Chess <CHESS@YKTVMV.BITNET>
- Subject: re: Virus disassemblies (PC)
-
- Some comments on Jim Goodwin's comments.
-
- > It is also the first virus I've come across
- > that will NOT infect a true IBM PC. It will only infect clones. The
- > code to test for the true blue IBM machine was quite simple, and
- > follows:
-
- If you'll look carefully at that code, you'll notice a bug; the last
- compare should be a BYTE compare, not a word compare. As it is, it's
- testing for "IBM" followed by a byte of 00. Even True Blue IBM BIOSs
- don't have that, so in fact it will work identically on IBMs and
- clones. (Either the virus writer didn't have a real IBM to test on,
- or he's intentionally trying to confuse us!) So it *will* infect a
- true IBM PC (I've tested it).
-
- The two levels of encryption are just a couple of XORs; one simple way
- to crack most of it is to let it run (on a machine with no hard disks,
- of course!) up to the point where it has finished descrambling itself,
- and then dumping the descrambled code to disk and killing the
- execution.
-
- COM and EXE files: The only virus that I know of that will infect both
- is the Jerusalem. The only other virus that I know that will infect
- EXE files is the EXE flavor of the April 1st Israeli virus. All the
- others I know of are either COM or boot infectors. Do you know of
- other EXE infectors? I'm sure the list would be interested.
-
- All the COM and EXE infectors that I know of use INT21 to do their
- infecting. Do you know of some that don't? It's possible in theory
- of course, but I've never seen one. Again, I'm sure the list would be
- interested.
-
- > we have it in over 6,000 systems now and it has
- > caught us a total of 31 new viruses.
-
- Wow! Only about 14 or 15 (counting liberally) PC-DOS viruses have
- been reported on this list. Do you have capsule summaries of the
- viruses you've found? (Or does that 31 perhaps include viruses for
- other operating systems, or perhaps some non-virus Trojan horses?)
-
- Sounds like you've got a gold mine of information, there! I'll
- attempt to check out the BBS myself.
-
- Dave Chess
- Watson Research
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