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- VIRUS-L Digest Monday, 2 Oct 1989 Volume 2 : Issue 209
-
- VIRUS-L is a moderated, digested mail forum for discussing computer
- virus issues; comp.virus is a non-digested Usenet counterpart.
- Discussions are not limited to any one hardware/software platform -
- diversity is welcomed. Contributions should be relevant, concise,
- polite, etc., and sent to VIRUS-L@IBM1.CC.LEHIGH.EDU (that's
- LEHIIBM1.BITNET for BITNET folks). Information on accessing
- anti-virus, document, and back-issue archives is distributed
- periodically on the list. Administrative mail (comments, suggestions,
- and so forth) should be sent to me at: krvw@SEI.CMU.EDU.
- - Ken van Wyk
-
- Today's Topics:
-
- Introduction to the anti-viral archives
- Amiga anti-viral archive sites
- Apple II anti-viral archive sites
- Atari ST anti-viral archive sites
- Documentation anti-viral archive sites
- IBMPC anti-viral archive sites
- Macintosh anti-viral archive sites
- UNIX anti-viral archive sites
- Why not change OS?
- M-1704.EXE (PC)
- Follow up on Tiger Team comments.
- Configuring FluShot (PC)
- Re: Tiger Team comments
- Future AV software (PC)
- The book you've all been waiting for?
-
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Sep 89 09:23:48 +0000
- From: jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu (Jim Wright)
- Subject: Introduction to the anti-viral archives
-
-
- # Introduction to the Anti-viral archives...
- # Listing of 30 September 1989
-
- This posting is the introduction to the "official" anti-viral archives
- of virus-l/comp.virus. With the generous cooperation of many sites
- throughout the world, we are attempting to make available to all
- the most recent news and programs for dealing with the virus problem.
- Currently we have sites for Amiga, Apple II, Atari ST, IBMPC, Macintosh
- and Unix computers, as well as sites carrying research papers and
- reports of general interest.
-
- If you have general questions regarding the archives, you can send
- them to this list or to me. I'll do my best to help. If you have a
- submission for the archives, you can send it to me or to one of the
- persons in charge of the relevant sites.
-
- If you have any corrections to the lists, please let me know.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Sep 89 09:25:11 +0000
- From: jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu (Jim Wright)
- Subject: Amiga anti-viral archive sites
-
-
- # Anti-viral archive sites for the Amiga
- # Listing last changed 30 September 1989
-
- cs.hw.ac.uk
- Dave Ferbrache <davidf@cs.hw.ac.uk>
- NIFTP from JANET sites, login as "guest".
- Electronic mail to <info-server@cs.hw.ac.uk>.
- Main access is through mail server.
- The master index for the virus archives can be retrieved as
- request: virus
- topic: index
- The Amiga index for the virus archives can be retrieved as
- request: amiga
- topic: index
- For further details send a message with the text
- help
- The administrative address is <infoadm@cs.hw.ac.uk>
-
- ms.uky.edu
- Sean Casey <sean@ms.uky.edu>
- Access is through anonymous ftp.
- The Amiga anti-viral archives can be found in /pub/amiga/Antivirus.
- The IP address is 128.163.128.6.
-
- uk.ac.lancs.pdsoft
- Steve Jenkins <pdsoft@uk.ac.lancs.pdsoft>
- Service for UK only; no access from BITNET/Internet/UUCP
- Terminals : call lancs.pdsoft, login as "pdsoft", pwd "pdsoft"
- FTP : call lancs.pdsoft, user "pdsoft", pwd "pdsoft".
- Pull the file "help/basics" for starter info, "micros/index" for index.
- Anti-Viral stuff is held as part of larger micro software collection
- and is not collected into a distinct area.
-
- uxe.cso.uiuc.edu
- Mark Zinzow <markz@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
- Lionel Hummel <hummel@cs.uiuc.edu>
- The archives are in /amiga/virus.
- There is also a lot of stuff to be found in the Fish collection.
- The IP address is 128.174.5.54.
- Another possible source is uihub.cs.uiuc.edu at 128.174.252.27.
- Check there in /pub/amiga/virus.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Sep 89 09:27:01 +0000
- From: jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu (Jim Wright)
- Subject: Apple II anti-viral archive sites
-
-
- # Anti-viral archive sites for the Apple II
- # Listing last changed 30 September 1989
-
- brownvm.bitnet
- Chris Chung <chris@brownvm.bitnet>
- Access is through LISTSERV, using SEND, TELL and MAIL commands.
- Files are stored as
- apple2-l xx-xxxxx
- where the x's are the file number.
-
- cs.hw.ac.uk
- Dave Ferbrache <davidf@cs.hw.ac.uk>
- NIFTP from JANET sites, login as "guest".
- Electronic mail to <info-server@cs.hw.ac.uk>.
- Main access is through mail server.
- The master index for the virus archives can be retrieved as
- request: virus
- topic: index
- The Apple II index for the virus archives can be retrieved as
- request: apple
- topic: index
- For further details send a message with the text
- help
- The administrative address is <infoadm@cs.hw.ac.uk>
-
- uk.ac.lancs.pdsoft
- Steve Jenkins <pdsoft@uk.ac.lancs.pdsoft>
- Service for UK only; no access from BITNET/Internet/UUCP
- Terminals : call lancs.pdsoft, login as "pdsoft", pwd "pdsoft"
- FTP : call lancs.pdsoft, user "pdsoft", pwd "pdsoft".
- Pull the file "help/basics" for starter info, "micros/index" for index.
- Anti-Viral stuff is held as part of larger micro software collection
- and is not collected into a distinct area.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Sep 89 09:28:26 +0000
- From: jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu (Jim Wright)
- Subject: Atari ST anti-viral archive sites
-
-
- # Anti-viral archive sites for the Atari ST
- # Listing last changed 30 September 1989
-
- cs.hw.ac.uk
- Dave Ferbrache <davidf@cs.hw.ac.uk>
- NIFTP from JANET sites, login as "guest".
- Electronic mail to <info-server@cs.hw.ac.uk>.
- Main access is through mail server.
- The master index for the virus archives can be retrieved as
- request: virus
- topic: index
- The Atari ST index for the virus archives can be retrieved as
- request: atari
- topic: index
- For further details send a message with the text
- help
- The administrative address is <infoadm@cs.hw.ac.uk>.
-
- panarthea.ebay
- Steve Grimm <koreth%panarthea.ebay@sun.com>
- Access to the archives is through mail server.
- For instructions on the archiver server, send
- help
- to <archive-server%panarthea.ebay@sun.com>.
-
- uk.ac.lancs.pdsoft
- Steve Jenkins <pdsoft@uk.ac.lancs.pdsoft>
- Service for UK only; no access from BITNET/Internet/UUCP
- Terminals : call lancs.pdsoft, login as "pdsoft", pwd "pdsoft"
- FTP : call lancs.pdsoft, user "pdsoft", pwd "pdsoft".
- Pull the file "help/basics" for starter info, "micros/index" for index.
- Anti-Viral stuff is held as part of larger micro software collection
- and is not collected into a distinct area.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Sep 89 09:28:58 +0000
- From: jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu (Jim Wright)
- Subject: Documentation anti-viral archive sites
-
-
- # Anti-viral archive sites for documentation
- # Listing last changed 30 September 1989
-
- cs.hw.ac.uk
- Dave Ferbrache <davidf@cs.hw.ac.uk>
- NIFTP from JANET sites, login as "guest".
- Electronic mail to <info-server@cs.hw.ac.uk>.
- Main access is through mail server.
- The master index for the virus archives can be retrieved as
- request: virus
- topic: index
- The index for the **GENERAL** virus archives can be retrieved as
- request: general
- topic: index
- The index for the **MISC.** virus archives can be retrieved as
- request: misc
- topic: index
- **VIRUS-L** entries are stored in monthly and weekly digest form from
- May 1988 to December 1988. These are accessed as log.8804 where
- the topic substring is comprised of the year, month and a week
- letter. The topics are:
- 8804, 8805, 8806 - monthly digests up to June 1988
- 8806a, 8806b, 8806c, 8806d, 8807a .. 8812d - weekly digests
- The following daily digest format started on Wed 9 Nov 1988. Digests
- are stored by volume number, e.g.
- request: virus
- topic: v1.2
- would retrieve issue 2 of volume 1, in addition v1.index, v2.index and
- v1.contents, v2.contents will retrieve an index of available digests
- and a extracted list of the the contents of each volume respectively.
- **COMP.RISKS** archives from v7.96 are available on line as:
- request: comp.risks
- topic: v7.96
- where topic is the issue number, as above v7.index, v8.index and
- v7.contents and v8.contents will retrieve indexes and contents lists.
- For further details send a message with the text
- help
- The administrative address is <infoadm@cs.hw.ac.uk>
-
- lehiibm1.bitnet
- Ken van Wyk <LUKEN@LEHIIBM1.BITNET> new: <krvw@sei.cmu.edu>
- This site has archives of VIRUS-L, and many papers of
- general interest.
- Access is through ftp, IP address 128.180.2.1.
- The directories of interest are VIRUS-L and VIRUS-P.
-
- uk.ac.lancs.pdsoft
- Steve Jenkins <pdsoft@uk.ac.lancs.pdsoft>
- Service for UK only; no access from BITNET/Internet/UUCP
- Terminals : call lancs.pdsoft, login as "pdsoft", pwd "pdsoft"
- FTP : call lancs.pdsoft, user "pdsoft", pwd "pdsoft".
- Pull the file "help/basics" for starter info, "micros/index" for index.
- Anti-Viral stuff is held as part of larger micro software collection
- and is not collected into a distinct area.
-
- unma.unm.edu
- Dave Grisham <dave@unma.unm.edu>
- This site has a collection of ethics documents.
- Included are legislation from several states and policies
- from many institutions.
- Access is through ftp, IP address 129.24.8.1.
- Look in the directory /ethics.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Sep 89 09:29:52 +0000
- From: jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu (Jim Wright)
- Subject: IBMPC anti-viral archive sites
-
-
- # Anti-viral archive for the IBMPC
- # Listing last changed 30 September 1989
-
- cs.hw.ac.uk
- Dave Ferbrache <davidf@cs.hw.ac.uk>
- NIFTP from JANET sites, login as "guest".
- Electronic mail to <info-server@cs.hw.ac.uk>.
- Main access is through mail server.
- The master index for the virus archives can be retrieved as
- request: virus
- topic: index
- The IBMPC index for the virus archives can be retrieved as
- request: ibmpc
- topic: index
- For further details send a message with the text
- help
- The administrative address is <infoadm@cs.hw.ac.uk>
-
- ms.uky.edu
- Daniel Chaney <chaney@ms.uky.edu>
- This site can be reached through anonymous ftp.
- The IBMPC anti-viral archives can be found in /pub/msdos/AntiVirus.
- The IP address is 128.163.128.6.
-
- uk.ac.lancs.pdsoft
- Steve Jenkins <pdsoft@uk.ac.lancs.pdsoft>
- Service for UK only; no access from BITNET/Internet/UUCP
- Terminals : call lancs.pdsoft, login as "pdsoft", pwd "pdsoft"
- FTP : call lancs.pdsoft, user "pdsoft", pwd "pdsoft".
- Pull the file "help/basics" for starter info, "micros/index" for index.
- Anti-Viral stuff is held as part of larger micro software collection
- and is not collected into a distinct area.
-
- uxe.cso.uiuc.edu
- Mark Zinzow <markz@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
- This site can be reached through anonymous ftp.
- The IBMPC anti-viral archives are in /pc/virus.
- The IP address is 128.174.5.54.
-
- vega.hut.fi
- Timo Kiravuo <kiravuo@hut.fi>
- This site (in Finland) can be reached through anonymous ftp.
- The IBMPC anti-viral archives are in /pub/pc/virus.
- The IP address is 128.214.3.82.
-
- wsmr-simtel20.army.mil
- Keith Peterson <w8sdz@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil>
- Direct access is through anonymous ftp, IP 26.2.0.74.
- The anti-viral archives are in PD1:<MSDOS.TROJAN-PRO>.
- Simtel is a TOPS-20 machine, and as such you should use
- "tenex" mode and not "binary" mode to retreive archives.
- Please get the file 00-INDEX.TXT using "ascii" mode and
- review it offline.
- NOTE:
- There are also a number of servers which provide access
- to the archives at simtel.
- WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil can be accessed using LISTSERV commands
- from BITNET via LISTSERV@NDSUVM1, LISTSERV@RPIECS and in Europe
- from EARN TRICKLE servers. Send commands to TRICKLE@<host-name>
- (for example: TRICKLE@AWIWUW11). The following TRICKLE servers
- are presently available: AWIWUW11 (Austria), BANUFS11 (Belgium),
- DKTC11 (Denmark), DB0FUB11 (Germany), IMIPOLI (Italy),
- EB0UB011 (Spain) and TREARN (Turkey).
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Sep 89 09:30:43 +0000
- From: jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu (Jim Wright)
- Subject: Macintosh anti-viral archive sites
-
-
- # Anti-viral archive sites for the Macintosh
- # Listing last changed 30 September 1989
-
- cs.hw.ac.uk
- Dave Ferbrache <davidf@cs.hw.ac.uk>
- NIFTP from JANET sites, login as "guest".
- Electronic mail to <info-server@cs.hw.ac.uk>.
- Main access is through mail server.
- The master index for the virus archives can be retrieved as
- request: virus
- topic: index
- The Mac index for the virus archives can be retrieved as
- request: mac
- topic: index
- For further details send a message with the text
- help
- The administrative address is <infoadm@cs.hw.ac.uk>
-
- ifi.ethz.ch
- Danny Schwendener <macman@ethz.uucp>
- Interactive access through SPAN/HEPnet:
- $SET HOST 20766 or $SET HOST AEOLUS
- Username: MAC
- Interactive access through X.25 (022847911065) or Modem 2400 bps
- (+41-1-251-6271):
- # CALL B050 <cr><cr>
- Username: MAC
- Files may also be copied via SPAN/HEPnet from
- 20766::DISK8:[MAC.TOP.LIBRARY.VIRUS]
-
- rascal.ics.utexas.edu
- Werner Uhrig <werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu>
- Access is through anonymous ftp, IP number is 128.83.144.1.
- Archives can be found in the directory mac/virus-tools.
- Please retrieve the file 00.INDEX and review it offline.
- Due to the size of the archive, online browsing is discouraged.
-
- scfvm.bitnet
- Joe McMahon <xrjdm@scfvm.bitnet>
- Access is via LISTSERV.
- SCFVM offers an "automatic update" service. Send the message
- AFD ADD VIRUSREM PACKAGE
- and you will receive updates as the archive is updated.
- You can also subscribe to automatic file update information with
- FUI ADD VIRUSREM PACKAGE
-
- sumex-aim.stanford.edu
- Bill Lipa <info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu>
- Access is through anonymous ftp, IP number is 36.44.0.6.
- Archives can be found in /info-mac/virus.
- Administrative queries to <info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu>.
- Submissions to <info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu>.
- There are a number of sites which maintain shadow archives of
- the info-mac archives at sumex:
- * MACSERV@PUCC services the Bitnet community
- * LISTSERV@RICE for e-mail users
- * FILESERV@IRLEARN for folks in Europe
-
- uk.ac.lancs.pdsoft
- Steve Jenkins <pdsoft@uk.ac.lancs.pdsoft>
- Service for UK only; no access from BITNET/Internet/UUCP
- Terminals : call lancs.pdsoft, login as "pdsoft", pwd "pdsoft"
- FTP : call lancs.pdsoft, user "pdsoft", pwd "pdsoft".
- Pull the file "help/basics" for starter info, "micros/index" for index.
- Anti-Viral stuff is held as part of larger micro software collection
- and is not collected into a distinct area.
-
- wsmr-simtel20.army.mil
- Robert Thum <rthum@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil>
- Access is through anonymous ftp, IP number 26.2.0.74.
- Archives can be found in PD3:<MACINTOSH.VIRUS>.
- Please get the file 00README.TXT and review it offline.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Sep 89 09:31:34 +0000
- From: jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu (Jim Wright)
- Subject: UNIX anti-viral archive sites
-
-
- # Anti-viral and security archive sites for Unix
- # Listing last changed 30 September 1989
-
- # Note that this listing is preliminary, and will likely change.
- # I know the information is far from complete, but I thought it would
- # be a good idea to get this out now instead of wait.
-
- attctc
- Charles Boykin <sysop@attctc.Dallas.TX.US>
- Accessible through UUCP.
-
- cs.hw.ac.uk
- Dave Ferbrache <davidf@cs.hw.ac.uk>
- NIFTP from JANET sites, login as "guest".
- Electronic mail to <info-server@cs.hw.ac.uk>.
- Main access is through mail server.
- The master index for the virus archives can be retrieved as
- request: virus
- topic: index
- For further details send a message with the text
- help
- The administrative address is <infoadm@cs.hw.ac.uk>
-
- netCS
- Hans Huebner <huebner@db0tui6.bitnet>
- netCS is a public access Unix site in Berlin which is
- also accessible through UUCP.
-
- sauna.hut.fi
- Jyrki Kuoppala <jkp@cs.hut.fi>
- Accessible through anonymous ftp, IP number 128.214.3.119.
- (Note that this IP number is likely to change.)
-
- ucf1vm
- Lois Buwalda <lois@ucf1vm.bitnet>
- Accessible through...
-
- wuarchive.wustl.edu
- Chris Myers <chris@wugate.wustl.edu>
- Accessible through anonymous ftp, IP number 128.252.135.4.
- A number of directories can be found in ~ftp/usenet/comp.virus/*.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 30 Sep 00 19:89:04 +0000
- From: ficc!peter@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Why not change OS?
-
- Rather than go through all this trouble to keep viruses out of Macs
- and IBM-PCs, why not abandon the unprotected operating systems
- wherever possible and switch to UNIX? If you need to run DOS or MacOS
- software, there are ways of running it under UNIX in both cases: A/UX
- supports Macintosh software, and the various 80386 versions of UNIX
- have two DOS emulators that run in the virtual 8086 emulation mode.
- With no direct access to the hardware possible, and with multiuser
- security preventing writes to files (at least in the 80386 case), the
- worst the virus could do would be to infect user-written programs.
- When they attempted to format the hard disk, or infect installed
- software, they would simply trap and abort the virtual DOS image.
- UNIX-based software is extremely unlikely to be infected, since a UNIX
- virus would have to infect source code to transfer out of a machine.
-
- To defuse arguments about the Internet Worm, let us note that this
- program was restricted to two brands of computer: VAXes and
- 68000-based Suns. And it infected a network that was deliberately
- designed to be insecure. No, UNIX is not immune to trojan horses and
- viruses, but by and large this sort of program is kept uninfectious
- and benign by the nature of the system.
-
- [Ed. I hope that you're wearing asbestos skivvies... :-) ]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 30 Sep 89 16:38:52 -0500
- From: James Ford <JFORD1@UA1VM.BITNET>
- Subject: M-1704.EXE (PC)
-
- I recently downloaded M-1704.ZIP from the Wellspring BBS. After
- downloading it, I ran SCAN V35 (old, I know) and to my amazement, it
- said that the file M-1704.EXE was infected with the "1701/1704 Version
- B virus"!
-
- Does this program include a string in it that might cause SCAN to
- indicate a virus (a false alert) or can I assume that this file is
- infected??
-
- Please reply direct to me, *not* to VALERT-L....or then again, maybe
- the response should be posted here. I am under the impression that
- the Wellspring BBS (1-714-8567996) is an anti-viral storage site.
-
- James Ford
- (205) 348-1713
- JFORD1@UA1VM.BITNET
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 01 Oct 89 01:09:25 -0400
- From: dmg@lid.mitre.org (David Gursky)
- Subject: Follow up on Tiger Team comments.
-
- There have been a couple messages regarding my Tiger Team suggestion,
- some of which have some good criticisms, others of which seem to have
- misread or read something into my message that wasn't there.
-
- First and foremost, I must emphasize that this would be one part of an
- overall anti-virus strategy, and you must take the use of Tiger Teams
- in a "positive manner", i.e. not to *punish* users who do not follow
- anti-virus procedures, but to *find* such users, and having found such
- users, ensure that they do follow the established anti-virus
- procedures in the future. Punishing users that fail to do so only
- gets the users mad, and mad users help no one.
-
- Second, a couple people have suggested this proposal leaves live
- viruses floating around desktop computers in the office, after the
- Tiger Team had successfully penetrated one. I believe I stated in my
- original proposal that the first step the Tiger Team would take is to
- create an *image* backup of the system they will try to infect.
- Regardless of the success or failure in infecting the computer, the
- disk would be restored from the image backup taken originally. Now
- should the TT successfully infect the system, the computer would be
- "disabled"; applying a large label over the CRT would effectively tell
- a user they are not to use their computer until they have gone over
- the anti-virus procedures with someone from the "computer services"
- department went over these procedures with the user.
-
- Backing away from the specific subject of Tiger Teams, I wish to
- emphasize the problem TTs are addressing; enactment of anti-viral
- procedures. As an example, it is illegal in most states to sell
- alcohol to adults under 21. In parts of the country which have these
- laws and *enforce* these laws, the ease of which an adult under 21 can
- purchase liquor is reduced (that is to say it is harder) over parts of
- the country which have the laws and do not enforce them well, or do
- not have the laws. It is a great first step if Acme Industries issues
- a set of anti-viral guidelines, but unless Acme does something to see
- to it the employees are following these procedures, then those
- policies are nothing more than pieces of paper in the users
- wastebaskets!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 30 Sep 89 19:56:54 -0700
- From: RSRANCH@UCLASSCF.BITNET (Ran Chermesh)
- Subject: Configuring FluShot (PC)
-
- I've d/l FluShot ver. 1.7 from Simtel. When I tried to install it, it
- looked for the FLUSHOT.DAT file in drive A. If I'm not mistaken, this
- kind of search was not part of FluShot in the past. I looked for
- instruction how to configure it to drive C, but couldn't find. Did I
- miss anything? Can anyone suggest a way to override this default?
- Temporarily I did override it by preceding the FSP instruction with an
- ASSIGN a=c instruction. Still, this couldn't be the appropriate
- solution.
-
- Ran Chermesh
- RSRANCH@UCLASSCF.BITNET
-
- p.s. Since I'm not a member of the VIRUS-L, I'll appreciate receiving
- your solution directly to me. If it is the norm on this list to
- summarize responses and to resubmit them to the list, please let me
- know and I'll be glad to comply.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 01 Oct 89 08:23:20 +0000
- From: chinet!ignatz@att.att.com
- Subject: Re: Tiger Team comments
-
- The author of the original "Tiger Team" concept responded to a couple
- of critical postings with some rebuttals. As I read them, he defended
- the TT concept by emphasizing, several times, that the TT would be
- checking compliance with anti-viral policies.
-
- I ask, if this *is* the goal, couldn't the corporation provide a
- configuration test program that checked for the existence of
- corporation-approved software and methods without introducing a virus,
- and requiring all the intermediate overhead of special backups, etc.?
-
- Dave Ihnat
- Analysts International Corporation, Chicago
- ignatz@homebru.chi.il.us (preferred return address)
- ignatz@chinet.chi.il.us
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 01 Oct 89 17:58:41 +0000
- From: carroll1!tkopp@uunet.UU.NET (Tom Kopp)
- Subject: Future AV software (PC)
-
- I had a thought earlier about a possible future Anti-viral system. It
- would be software based, therefore subject to its own corruption,
- however it seems to me to be a mix of the work of Anti-Viral gurus
- McAfee and Greenberg. It works something like this:
-
- A version/variant of ViruScan would run, searching not for
- viral-identifying code, but rather for the interrupt calls that write
- to a disk (a la Flu_Shot techniques). When it finds one, it looks in
- a table to see if that code is allowed. This table could consist of
- the following format:
-
- filename;offset of interrupt;filesize CRC;
-
- with the possible inclusion of just WHICH interrupt was attempting to
- be invoked. The user of the software could either add to the table
- for software that he/she has written, or wait for updated database
- listings from whoever wrote/maintained such a program. Also in the
- vein of Flu_Shot, a list could be maintained of files to 'ignore'. I
- do see a problem in that setting up the original database to cover the
- countless programs existing is a truly arduous task, however for a
- purpose such as this, I would think reputable software companies would
- provide as much assistance as possible, which could be a lot if the
- code was written in assembler.
-
- Is there some other fundamental element I'm missing, or is this a
- plausible idea?
-
- tkopp@carroll1.cc.edu or uunet!marque!carroll1!tkopp
- Thomas J. Kopp @ Carroll College 3B2 - Waukesha, WI
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- Date: Sun, 01 Oct 89 17:58:04 -0400
- From: dmg@lid.mitre.org (David Gursky)
- Subject: The book you've all been waiting for?
-
- John McAfee of Interpath, National Bulletin Board Society, and
- Computer Virs (Virus, not Virs) Industry fame has written a book.
- Entitled _Computer Viruses, Worms, Data Diddles, Killer Programs, and
- Other Threats to Your System: What They Are, How They Work, and How to
- Defend Your PC, Mac, or Mainframe_, it is co-authored with Colin
- Haynes, and published by St. Martin's Press.
-
- I finished reading it today, and this is some preliminary thoughts I
- have on the book (this message would be more detailed, but I have to
- catch a plane to New Orleans tonight and I leave in thirty minutes).
-
- I do not like this book. I found it to be (at various points)
- contradictory, incomplete, and alarmist. Before the flame wars begin,
- let me emphasize that the whole book is not constantly contradictory,
- incomplete, and or alarmist, nor is any one section all three of those
- things. Some sections (most notably the first third of the book and
- the last chapter) are very alarmist. In the final chapter for
- instance, McAfee quotes some NBBS users about what type of viruses do
- they see "looming in the distance". One example cited is a
- modification to the electronic switches used by the phone company to
- reroute a call placed by caller n to the number dialed by called n-1.
- A second example would have the computers controlling the nation's
- traffic lights (the computers are made by one of three companies) all
- turn green in all directions on a given Friday. I leave it as an
- exercise to Virus-L readers to find where these are flawed, other than
- the obvious one that neither of these are viruses per se, but are
- examples of destructive measure viruses could be put to.
-
- In between the beginning and the end of the book, McAfee focuses on a
- technical discussion of viruses, and he does, alright. There are much
- better books (IMO) on the market about PC viruses (such as the Compute
- book) or viruses in general (Ralf Burger's _Computer Viruses, A High
- Tech Disease_), but if you are comfortable with McAfee's paradigm's,
- then his work is acceptable. If you are not comfortable with McAfee's
- paradigm, or if you are concerned with viruses in the Macintosh
- environment (or to a lesser degree, the mainframe environment), you
- will get awfully confused. The book has a very heavy PC bias, and
- (for example) trying to fit McAfee's generic description of viruses
- into the Macintosh paradigm does not work easily.
-
- I will be out of town for two weeks, and Virus-L will be on vacation
- by the time I get back. When I do get back into town, I will write a
- more comprehensive review for Virus-L. What it all comes down to is
- this. McAfee & Haynes' book is no great shakes; it simply is not well
- written. This is not to call John McAfee names or anything, but "he
- should not give up his day job". My advice is to buy a copy of the
- NIST paper (which is shorter, more concise, and has a greater
- proportion of useful information) and a good set of anti-virus tools
- for your computer. Viruscan is one of the best for the PC from what I
- understand, and a bargain at $15.
-
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