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- VIRUS-L Digest Monday, 17 Jul 1989 Volume 2 : Issue 153
-
- Today's Topics:
-
- Re: NEW VIRUS?? (PC?)
- Forward Message from J. McAfee Re: VIRUSCAN
- FAT recover
- Corporate culture shift resulting from virus mis(?)information
- Re: 2 remarks
- Re: Virus Identification Software
- FluShot+ and 1701 virus (PC)
- Re: 2 remarks
- Request for boot sector information
-
-
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-
- Date: Sat, 15 Jul 89 14:34:04 -0500
- From: dnewton@carroll1.cc.edu (Dave Newton)
- Subject: Re: NEW VIRUS?? (PC?)
-
- That's not a virus, someone broke in or did it as a joke.
-
- --
- "If I cannot create it, I do not understand it"
- -Richard Feynman
- David L. Newton (414) 524-7253 dnewton@carroll1.cc.edu
- =8-) (smiley w/ a mohawk) (414) 524-7343 uunet!marque!carroll1!dnewton
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 15 Jul 89 19:28:34 -0700
- From: portal!cup.portal.com!Alan_J_Roberts@Sun.COM
- Subject: Forward Message from J. McAfee Re: VIRUSCAN
-
- The following message is forwarded from John McAfee:
- =============================================================================
-
- I would like to thank the Virus-L subscribers for their response
- to the VIRUSCAN program. I have just released the production version
- which fixed a few bugs found in the earlier versions and includes all
- the viruses I know about. I would hope that those of you with large
- virus collections would check it against the virus versions that you
- have collected. We have received no reports of false positive
- identifications as yet, but it is certainly possible that new
- variations of existing viruses will slip by. I have collected only
- one version each of the 3066 (Traceback) and the FuManchu for example,
- and I don't have a good feel for the types of variations that might
- appear with these viruses. The tests for these viruses may therefore
- be weak. Also, the test for the Icelandic virus was developed and
- implemented by Frank Nalls, who reports that it works fine. Since I
- do not yet have a copy of the Icelandic, I can only take his report on
- faith. I would be interested in anyone else's experience with
- VIRUSCAN's ability to identify the Icelandic.
- Again, thank you all for your support and voluminous feedback.
- John McAfee
- Data - 408 988 4004
- Voice - 408 988 3832
- 4423 Cheeney Street
- Santa Clara, CA 95054
- USA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 17 Jul 89 13:10:04 +0300
- From: "Yuval Tal (972)-8-474592" <NYYUVAL@WEIZMANN.BITNET>
- Subject: FAT recover
-
- I am using UNVIRUS to exterminate viruses. UNVIRUS also exterminates the
- Bouncing Balll Virus. This program deletes the virus from the boot sector
- but it *DOES NOT* fix the FAT so that the sector which was marked as bad
- would be un-marked.
-
- Is there a program to un-mark the bad sector???
-
- - -Yuval Tal (NYYUVAL@WEIZMANN)
-
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- | Yuval Tal "Mjolnir, My fateful hammer, |
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- | Rehovot, Israel "Aiwa, Manafee" - Udi Schlessinger |
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- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 15 Jul 89 15:36:00 -0500
- From: <DCD@CUNYVMS1.BITNET>
- Subject: Corporate culture shift resulting from virus mis(?)information
-
- I am actively involved with a large microcomputer BBS for Mechanical
- Engineers (CIME-ISE, 608-233-5378). I will be giving a talk on the BBS
- at the International Computers in Engineering Conference this August in
- Anaheim, and am preparing a piece that will appear in the magazine
- Mechanical Engineering, the main organ (as they say) of the American
- Society of Mechanical Engineers (circ. approx. 130,000).
-
- I understand that the messages here are in general somewhat academic and
- technical, but perhaps the following line of discussion may spark some
- interest. I am intrigued by what can only be called the return of MIS:
- we all know the corporate Kulturkampf that took place not so many years
- ago when microcomputers became readily available--the MIS people (in large
- corporations) kicked and screamed, but eventually their power was diluted.
- Now, I am seeing reports that their day has returned. Relatively techno-
- illiterate upper management sees reports on viruses in Time, etc., and puts
- a call in that all decisions on software must be blessed from a newly power-
- ful management structure.
-
- Consider the following case, which I consider emblematic: a project engineer
- at a large chemical installation plant can
- 1) sign off on $50,000 daily, but igf
-
- but if he wants a $200 copy of wordstar, e.g., he must ask his piping
- supplier to buy it and bury it in an invoice;
- 2) he must use some cock-a-mamie line editor on his central computer; he, and
- many other engineers, circumvent this by burying their favorite programs on
- some hidden directory (of course against compnay policy)
- 3) he is being hassled about using the engineering BBS, and all BBS's in
- general. A valuable resource is being maligned and his productivity will
- suffer.
-
- I have no doubt that such corporate shenanigans are taking place all
- the time, and would be interested in any comments.
-
- Thanks for your time in reading this,
-
- Robert Braham
- E-mail: DCD@CUNYVMS1.BITNET
- Home: 1315 Third Ave., 4D
- New York, NY 10021
- (212) 879-1026
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 15 Jul 00 19:89:11 +0000
- From: biar!trebor@uunet.uu.net (Robert J Woodhead)
- Subject: Re: 2 remarks
-
- DLV@CUNYVMS1.BITNET (Dimitri Vulis) writes:
- >1. The English language has certain traditional ways of naming groups
- >of animals, e.g., a goggle of goblins, a school of fish, a pack of
- >wolves, etc. Since both `virus' and `Trojan horse' have some kind of
- >animal overtones, I wonder what other people (preferably English
- >majors) think is a good way to name a group of those beasts.
-
- 1) A Plague of Viruses.
- 2) A Herd of Trojan Horses.
-
- [Ed. name for "group" of Trojans deleted...]
-
- (^;-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-;^)
- Robert J Woodhead, Biar Games, Inc. !uunet!biar!trebor | trebor@biar.UUCP
- ``I can read your mind - right now, you're thinking I'm full of it...''
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 17 Jul 89 09:24:33 -0700
- From: rogers@marlin.nosc.mil (Rollo D. Rogers)
- Subject: Re: Virus Identification Software
-
- Last thursday i spoke with the author of the VIRUSCAN software Mr.
- McAfee. Based on that conversation i would like to present the
- following info concerning the scan program:
-
- 1. There is indeed a slight problem when running scan.exe with
- a DOS version of 2.11 and perhaps any version under 3.0. The
- scan results apparently are not correct when scanning/searching
- "multiple" diskettes in Drive A. So the apparent fix for the problem
- is to either a) type the "dir" command before inserting and scanning
- succeeding diskettes or b) hit the Ctrl C keys before running scan
- on the next disk. If the user does not do this they will probably NOT
- get an acccurate scan and report of the files on the disks following
- the first diskette searched. And you could possibly have infected files
- on a diskette that would not be identified. This problem is easy to
- duplicate if you run scan.exe on multiple disks using DOS V2.11.
- I was able to duplicate the problem on my NCR PC-6 machine.
- One other user also reported in a previous VIRUS-L posting that he had
- experienced the same thing.
-
- 2. Also according to Mr. McAfee V019 was a beta test version and
- Version020 is now available on the HOMEBASE BBS for downloading.
-
- Maybe someone could grab V020 and check it out. If OK then send it to
- SIMTEL20 for people on the Internet to obtain.
-
- REgards, RollO~~
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 17 Jul 89 13:43:40 -0400
- From: HAUPTMAN@DMRHRZ11.BITNET
- Subject: FluShot+ and 1701 virus (PC)
-
- Things I've learned since my first message on our virus:
-
- There is a 'Virus Epidemic Center' at University Hamburg (Prof. Brunnstein) and
- their VIRUS-KATALOG list something called Herbstvirus or Blackjack. It's
- description sounds similar to our symptoms although it increases *.COM files by
- 1704 bytes while our virus needs 1701.
-
- On one mailing list I found an announcement:
- 'DVIR1701.EXE -- detects and removes 1701 from COM files'
-
- After installing Flushot+ and executing one of the infected files FSP brought
- up the message:
- 'An attempt is being made to infect your system by:
- Cascade Virus (aka 1704 Virus) '
- Beside that experiment no further problems were revealed by FSP and our system
- is still up and running.
-
- Things I still would like to know:
-
- Did someone unassemble this virus?
- What was it supposed to do?
- Can infection be caused by other programs than those identified by 01 FA 8B EC?
- Can other files be already corrupted by this virus?
-
- --- Klaus Hauptmann
- (msommer on BIX, HAUPTMAN@DMRHRZ11 on Earn/Bitnet)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 17 Jul 89 11:01:20 -0700
- From: arc!steve@apple.com (Steve Savitzk{)
- Subject: Re: 2 remarks
-
- an infection of viruses
- (plague is another possibility, perhaps reserved for widespread
- infections)
-
- an ambush of Trojan horses
-
- and, of course,
-
- a can of worms
-
- - --
- Steve Savitzky | steve@arc.uucp | apple.com!arc!steve
- ADVANsoft Research Corp. | (408) 727-3357(w) / 294-6492(h)
- 4301 Great America Parkway | #include<disclaimer.h>
- Santa Clara, CA 95054 | May the Source be with you!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Jul 89 19:18:08 +0000
- From: frisk@rhi.hi.is (Fridrik Skulason)
- Subject: Request for boot sector information
-
- I need an answer to the following question:
-
- In the boot sector of every diskette and hard disk there is a short
- string starting at the fourth byte. This string contains information
- about the version of DOS used to format the disk/diskette.
- Typically it is something like "IBM 3.0" or "MSDOS2.0".
- What I need to know is: What other possibilities are there ?
-
- The reason I'm asking this question is as follows:
-
- I'm working on a package of programs for fighting computer
- viruses on the PC. One program in this package tries to determine
- if the boot sector has been infected by some virus. Since some
- viruses modify the label described above, it is one of the things
- I check on each diskette. For example, one well-known virus will
- write 1234 in this place, and another (the Pentagon virus) will write
- "HAL" there.
-
- Now - my problem is that one person who was using a beta-test version
- of the program told me that the program would flag diskettes formatted
- on a Cordata machine as "Possibly infected by an unknown virus".
-
- Examination revealed that the reason was the string "CDS" instead of
- "IBM" or "MSDOS". Therefore I am asking for a bit of assistance.
- If you have a machine from somebody other than IBM, please take a look
- at this portion of the boot sector, using NORTON or some similar program.
- If it contains a string different from "IBM", "MSDOS" or "CDS", please
- send me information on the string and the machine type.
-
- Of course - the package will be distributed freely when finished - Expect
- it to appear on comp.binaries.ibm.pc or in some accessible place.
-
- I just need to obtain a few more viruses to test it against first. Currently
- I have only tested it (and found it 100% effective) against Brain, Ping-Pong,
- 1704 and a new Icelandic (I think) virus.
-
- This message would have been posted to comp.virus, but since it is not
- operating right now, I am posting it here.
-
- Fridrik Skulason University of Iceland
- frisk@rhi.hi.is
- Guvf yvar vagragvbanyyl yrsg oynax .................
-
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