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- TELECOM Digest Tue, 1 Feb 94 14:55:00 CST Volume 14 : Issue 57
-
- Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
-
- The IIA "Free" Internet Account (Paul Robinson)
- Modems For 3002 Circuits Wanted (Javier Henderson)
- Re: INTERNET Connections: What's Involved? (Gordon Torrie)
- Re: INTERNET Connections: What's Involved? (John R. Levine)
- Increasing Cordless Range? (Bill Leeke)
- Re: Snail Mail Newsgroup (Nigel Allen)
- Re: How Can I Get Around a Pair Shortage Problem? (Carl Oppedahl)
- Re: Multi-line BBS's (John DuBois)
- Re: Telephone Nunbers in France (markr@mcil.comm.mot.com)
- Re: International Dialback Long Distance Calling (Carl Moore)
- Re: International Dialback Long Distance Calling (dong@umiacs.umd.edu)
- Re: Unmetered Local Service (Steve Cogorno)
- Re: Phone Line Simulator Wanted (Lars Poulsen)
- Re: Landlines Pay Airtime To Call Some Cellular Phones (Kriston J. Rehberg)
- Re: Case History of a Phone Rip-Off (Part 1) (Carl Oppedahl)
-
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-
- Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 13:00:36 EST
- From: Paul Robinson <PAUL@TDR.COM>
- Reply-To: Paul Robinson <PAUL@TDR.COM>
- Subject: The IIA "Free" Internet Account
- Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA
-
-
- Awhile back there was talk here of a "free" account from the IIA
- (International Internet Association). One of the comments was that
- they required a credit card for people outside the local area who
- might use their 800 number so the company could bill them at 25c a
- minute.
-
- I personally coined the term for this: "The Nevada Plan". That's
- where a company provides a service in which they pay for the service
- via charges based on telephone calls into the service. A talk line in
- Nevada started this in which you dialed a specific 702 number and were
- connected. The kicker was that you had to call long distance via
- AT&T. AT&T gave them the 2c/minute fee for the connection.
-
- At least one other company has ticked off a similar deal with Sprint
- and with MCI for another service.
-
- For those of you going to one of the various convetions who would like
- to be able to contact your home computer, there is already a full
- internet service which is accessible as real "Nevada Plan" service --
- all it costs is a call over AT&T to the provider's number -- and
- doesn't have additional charges larded onto it the way this 800 number
- thingy does. (They assess the charges via the credit card supplied to
- them.)
-
- The service is called Speedway, and the number -- which has to be
- called via AT&T -- is (10288) 1-503-520-2222. I have no connection
- with that company other than as someone who has used their service.
-
- The provider of speedway offers shell access to a Unix system, and
- includes full internet connectivity, including E-Mail, almost all
- national newsgroups, and the usual internet tools including whois,
- ping, nslookup, etc. The company also offers slip connections, and
- will act as a DNS receiver for DNS forwarded mail for those wanting
- their own domain name. All at no cost above the AT&T 12c a minute
- rates at night or higher during days.
-
- At my own request, they have added a gateway for outgoing SMTP mail,
- which is accessed via the command SMTP at the login: prompt. This is
- quite useful for a system that has an incoming mail gateway that wants
- a means to post mail which is possibly less expensive.
-
- Since the rate per minute is whatever AT&T charges -- which is
- probably less than 25c a minute except during daylight prime time and
- may be less if you have a calling plan -- this option is a suitable
- alternative to using IIAs overpriced "free" service (unless you happen
- to be in the local area of their service).
-
-
- Paul Robinson - Paul@TDR.COM
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: henderson@mlnaxp.mln.com
- Subject: Modems for 3002 circuits
- Date: 1 Feb 94 09:13:06 PST
- Organization: Medical Laboratory Network; Ventura, CA
-
-
- Can anyone recommend a pair of modems, in the 9600bps range, that will
- work on 3002 circuits?
-
-
- Thanks,
-
- Javier Henderson henderson@mlnaxp.mln.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Re: INTERNET Connections: What's Involved?
- From: gordon@torrie.org (Gordon Torrie)
- Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 14:22:24 -0500
- Organization: Torrie Communications Services
-
-
- 92065034@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (J. Guitard) writes:
-
- > I would like some info on what's involved in connecting to the
- > Internet. At first I thought the only way to connect was through a T1
- > line, but now I hear you can connect with a 9600 baud line. Someone
- > told me they were connected through their local internet provider. Who
- > are these local internet providers? What are the costs for these
- > lines and monthly fees, etc? Email me or post here.
-
- There is a file called the Public Dialup Internet List (PDIAL) that
- lists Internet service providers, the local calling areas each serves,
- the services they offer and outlines their rates. It lists many
- providers in North America and a few that are eleswhere in the world.
- Look for PDIAL015.ZIP on a local BBS.
-
-
- Gord Torrie
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 20:32 EST
- From: johnl@iecc.com (John R Levine)
- Subject: Re: INTERNET Connections: What's Involved?
- Organization: I.E.C.C., Cambridge, Mass.
-
-
- > I would like some info on what's involved in connecting to the
- > Internet.
-
- A good source is Susan Estrada's "Connecting to the Internet",
- O'Reilly, ISBN 1-56592-061-9. It describes the various ways to hook
- up, pros and cons, and has a lot of providers listed, in the U.S.,
- Canada, and elsewhere.
-
- For a general introduction to the Internet, including a fair amount of
- discussion of how you hook up using a PC or a Mac, try "The Internet
- for Dummies", IDG Books, ISDN 1-56884-024-1. I think it's one of the
- most superb books ever written in the English language, but since I
- wrote it, I may be biased.
-
-
- Regards,
-
- John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, jlevine@delphi.com, 1037498@mcimail.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: bailey@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bill Leeke)
- Subject: Increasing Cordless Range
- Date: 1 Feb 1994 17:31:33 GMT
- Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
-
-
- I would like to increase the range of my cordless phone. Does anyone
- know if there is an easy way to do this? i.e. clip/screw a few
- resistors ...
-
- Would it be possible to put a linear amp on the base? Could you also
- increase the gain of the base antenna?
-
- Any suggestions welcome.
-
- BTW: Im only interested in the technical aspects of doing this.
-
-
- bailey@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
-
-
- [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Remember that whatever you do, you also
- need to increase th handset's range accordingly. It is pointless to have
- the base be able to talk for a mile if the handset is not strong enough
- to get back to it. Remember also that the more distance you are able to
- cover with your cordless, the more others will be able to get back to
- your dialtone also, especially if you have an older style cordless. PAT]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 01 Feb 1994 02:28:04 -0500
- From: ae446@freenet.carleton.ca (Nigel Allen)
- Subject: Re: Snail Mail Newsgroup
- Organization: The National Capital FreeNet, Ottawa, Canada
- Reply-To: ae446@freenet.carleton.ca
-
-
- In a previous article, roberts_n@svhdev.te.bt.co.uk (Nigel Roberts) says:
-
- > Some time ago there was an announcement of a mailing list or newsgroup
- > (I can't remember which) which covered the topic of the world's postal
- > services (a.k.a `snail mail').
-
- The newsgroup is named alt.snail-mail, and has had some lively
- discussions recently about postal operations and policies. Most of
- the messages deal with the U.S. Postal Service, but private courier
- companies and the postal administrations of other countries have also
- been discussed.
-
- Stamp collectors will find rec.collecting.stamps more interesting.
-
-
- Nigel Allen ae446@freenet.carleton.ca
-
-
- [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Thanks also to Peter Weiss for the same
- answer. PAT]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl)
- Subject: Re: How Can I Get Around a Pair Shortage Problem?
- Date: 31 Jan 1994 12:26:24 -0500
- Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
-
-
- In <telecom14.41.12@eecs.nwu.edu> Barry Lustig <barry@ictv.com> writes:
-
- > A friend of mine lives in a coop apartment in New York City. He has a
- > run of four wire non-twisted pair running from the demarc in the
- > basement to his apartment. He would like to be able to run more than
- > two phone circuits to his apartment (modem, fax, phone, etc), but the
- > coop won't let him run any additional wire. Is there anyway to get
- > more that two phone circuits running over the four wires?
-
- Or perhaps BRI ISDN on one of the pairs and normal loop-start on the
- other ...
-
- Or perhaps BRI ISDN twice -- once on each of two pairs.
-
-
- Carl Oppedahl AA2KW Oppedahl & Larson (patent lawyers)
- Yorktown Heights, NY voice 212-777-1330
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: spcecdt@armory.com (John DuBois)
- Subject: Re: Multi-line BBS's
- Organization: The Armory
- Date: Tue, 01 Feb 1994 04:14:38 GMT
-
-
- In article <telecom14.23.2@eecs.nwu.edu>, Fred R. Goldstein
- <goldstein@carafe.tay2.dec.com> wrote:
-
- > In article <telecom14.18.10@eecs.nwu.edu> dannie@coplex.coplex.com
- > (Dannie Gregoire) writes:
-
- >> I'll direct this question to you if possible, as you are the true
- >> phone system guru. I asked it in the newsgroup a couple of months
- >> back with no useful response. I would like to know how some of these
- >> bulletin boards have 60-100 lines running into them (eg EXEC-PC). Do
- >> they simply have that many individual lines run or is there a nifty
- >> service that the TELCO offers through a PBX? I apologize if this is
- >> a stupid question, but it is one that has baffled me, and I gotta know
- >> the answer. Thanks for any help ...
-
- As a data point ... the systems here currently have 12 data
- lines. All but one (our ISDN line for IP connectivity) are analog
- lines, and cost $8.50/mo. ($3 of that for undesired "network access
- for interstate calling" which I'm told I can't skip), since they're
- measured rate, which makes sense for our purposes since they're dialin
- only. Pac Bell just pulls another five-pair cable each time we run
- out, and wires it up to another six-position network interface, which
- now are arranged in a nice row along the outside of the house.
-
- When we had used up the third set of lines (we have five voice
- lines too), I expected them to pull out the five-pair cables and
- replace them with a 25-pair cable, but they somehow managed to get not
- just one but (for a change) two more five-pair cables through the
- conduit. I doubt we'll need more than 25 pairs, so I don't get to see
- what they'd do next :)
-
- The data lines are connected to a motley assortment of modems
- which are on multiport boards.
-
-
- John DuBois spcecdt@armory.com KC6QKZ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: markr@mot.com (Mark)
- Subject: Re: Telephone Nunbers in France
- Reply-To: markr@mcil.comm.mot.com
- Organization: MCIL
- Date: Tue, 01 Feb 1994 15:07:37 GMT
-
-
- In article <telecom14.34.20@eecs.nwu.edu> mandarin@cix.compulink.co.uk
- writes:
-
- > etm@email.teaser.com (Erik Thomas Mueller) said:
-
- >>> By the way, note that the current numbering plan in France is scheduled
- >>> to be replaced in 1995 by the uniform NPA + 8D where NPA =
- >>> 1 Ile-de-France (Paris, ...)
- >>> 2 Northeast France
- >>> 3 Southeast France
- >>> 4 Southwest France
- >>> 5 Northwest France
-
- > Oddly enough, France has roughly the same number of telephones as the
- > UK; but the UK is about to change from a 10 digit scheme to an 11
- > digit scheme. I somehow doubt if the North West France zone will be
- > given code "5"; because that would entail callers dialling 05 to call
- > NW France. At the moment 05 is the French toll-free code, the
- > equivalent of 1-800 and 0800, which they call "numberos verts" - green
- > numbers. The French 05 will, I am told, in due course change to 0800.
- > A separate code (06?) has been allocated for mobiles.
-
- Speaking about adding a digit, is there any plan in the USA to add a
- digit when the system runs out of valid area codes? Or will they buy
- time by changing the N0X N1X requirement?
-
-
- Mark
-
-
- [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: We *have* run out of area codes and 'they'
- have abandoned the N0X/N1X requirement. New area codes will be almost any
- three digit number. PAT]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 01 Feb 94 01:14:41 EST
- From: Carl Moore <cmoore@BRL.MIL>
- Subject: Re: International Dialback Long Distance Calling
-
-
- Who'd use 011 to call INTO country code 1? Try +1 (instead of 011-1
- or 1) in front of the 719 area code.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: dong@umiacs.umd.edu (D.C.)
- Subject: Re: International Dialback Long Distance Calling
- Date: 01 Feb 1994 13:02:32 -0500
- Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742
-
-
- I once saw somebody selling this type of dialback equipment on the
- Usenet. Does anybody have the information? Can you point to me where
- I can find such an equipment?
-
- Thanks.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: cogorno@netcom.com (Steve Cogorno)
- Subject: Re: Unmetered Local Service
- Date: Tue, 01 Feb 1994 11:42:18 PST
-
-
- > Correct me if I am wrong but local call costs are very usage
- > insensitive (the costs of running a local telephone exchange will be
- > virtually the same if we are calling all the time or if we never use
- > our telephones).
-
- > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There are costs involved with the
- > common equipment and the amount of it in place which to large extent
- > detirmined by how much the phone is used. Even so, why shouldn't
- > telco get paid for the value of the service? PAT]
-
- THe telco SHOULD get paid for the value of its service -- via the
- monthly service charge.
-
-
- Steve cogorno@netcom.com
- #608 Merrill * 200 McLaughlin Drive * Santa Cruz, CA 95064-1015
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: lars@Eskimo.CPH.CMC.COM (Lars Poulsen)
- Subject: Re: Phone Line Simulator Wanted
- Organization: CMC Network Products, Copenhagen DENMARK
- Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 19:20:13 GMT
-
-
- dej@eecg.toronto.edu (David Jones) writes:
-
- >> I am in need of a phone line simulator. It will be used to verify the
- >> functionality of modems for a large computing network.
-
- In article <telecom14.30.12@eecs.nwu.edu> Proctor & Associates
- <0003991080@mcimail.com> writes:
-
- > Any of the Proctor Telephone Demonstrators will do this. There are
- > three models, from two to four lines, and the newest one will also do
- > Caller ID and CENTREX emulation.
-
- In the last couple of years, I have been using various such devices,
- ranging from simple ringdown boxes to small PBXes, for exactly this
- application. I have found a great variety in the quality of these
- units. Here are some issues:
-
- (1) Some ringdown boxes burn out, if they have to supply dial tone to
- both sides at once. I experienced this problem with some very
- inexpensive (USD 106 at Graybar!!) ringdowns. That made them
- unusable for my purpose, but they would work fine for one-way
- ringdown applications, and could indeed be strapped for one-way.
-
- (2) The TelTone TLS-3, considered by my colleagues in the voice-mail
- industry to be the Cadillac of line simulators has shown many
- problems on my bench: Weak ring signals (won't reliably trigger my
- ZyXEL modems), lots of glare (because it is slow to recognize a
- hangup; like many Centrex lines I have seen). This can sometimes
- be a nuisance when stress testing two-way dial-on-demand routers.
- (I wonder how the Proctor units compare in this respect.)
-
- (3) The Panasonics KX-T308 and 616 series have been great for this
- application, but they have a limited number of talk paths. For
- example, the 308 allows four simultaneous calls, the 616 allows
- 8, I think. So if you are using any trunk side connections, you
- may experience blocking on local calls. This is not well
- documented. (Actually, I think you can have blocking even if you
- don't have trunkside connections. I've moved away from the lab
- with the KX-T's - anyone care to test and report ?)
-
- Lars Poulsen Internet E-mail: lars@CMC.COM
- CMC Network Products Phone: (011-) +45-31 49 81 08
- Hvidovre Strandvej 72 B Telefax: +45-31 49 83 08
- DK-2650 Hvidovre, DENMARK Internets: designed and built while you wait
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Re: Landlines Pay Airtime To Call Some Cellular Phones
- Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 14:07:28 EST
- From: V2ENA81%OWEGO@zeta.eecs.nwu.edu
-
-
- [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: The 'New York pager scam' involved this
- guy who took out a very expensive (to call) phone line on the 540 (?)
- exchange in New York City. That exchange *only when calling from the
- LATA (212/708/914/516?)* charges the callers in the same way that 900
- or 976 service works elsewhere. This guy had a line which cost the calling
- party something like $20-30 each time they dialed it and he sent page
- messages to (apparently) thousands of pagers in the area asking them
- to call him back on his expensive number ... they responded by the
- thousands and he got a nice commission from telco -- just like you
- would get if you ran a 900/976 service. The people who called got very
- large charges on their phone bill, and the guy made a mint from it. PAT]
-
- NYNEX has created a new area code 917 for pager, cellular, and
- "certain other services", in addition to their 212 and 718 numbers.
- In an area where almost every tall office building has at least one
- PBX with direct-dial extensions, NYC is a pure example of the
- so-called "phone number shortage" myth. They just keep adding NPA's.
- If someone can explain how there could possibly be a phone number
- shortage, especially with the elimination of both 1 + 7D and the
- recent expansion of area code second-digit assignments please send me
- E-mail or post here to the Digest. I have always believed this to be
- an urban legend, especially in light of the elimination of 1 + 7D in
- the past ten years and the more recent second-digit area code allowance.
-
- Back to the original thought of the post, I always thought that the
- only pay exchanges in all of the NYC area codes was 976. This has
- nothing to do with 1-900, by the way.
-
- By the way, I don't see area code 708 in NYC. You probably meant 718
- (Queens/Bronx/Bkln).
-
-
- Kriston J. Rehberg Internet External :krehberg@vnet.ibm.com
- Associate Programmer/Analyst FSC Internal RSCS :V2ENA81 AT OWEGO
- ENSCO, Incorporated FSC Internal AFS :v1ena81@legend.endicott
- Loral Federal Systems Co, Owego, NY Tel: 607-751-2180 :Tieline: 662-2180
-
-
- [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yes, that was a typographical error. I
- meant to say 718, not 708. PAT]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl)
- Subject: Re: Case History of a Phone Rip-Off (Part 1)
- Date: 01 Feb 1994 10:29:35 -0500
- Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
-
-
- In <telecom14.38.8@eecs.nwu.edu> kindred@telesciences.com (David L
- Kindred ) writes:
-
- > for a minute, she realized that she was the only person in the office,
- > and that the lines couldn't be in use. At this point she picks up the
- > line, and "This is the Credit Union, may I help you?". One of the
- > people on the line mumbles something like "isn't so-and-so there?" and
- > hangs up. My mother then hung-up and was able to use the line to make
- > her call. The next day, she reported this event to NJ Bell. A day or
- > two after that, one of the phone lines went dead, and again NJ Bell
- > was involved.
-
- > As you might expect, the next phone bill was quadruple the normal.
- > Most of the "mystery" calls were to Manilla (sp?), and a few to
- > Panama.
-
- > This is where things stand for the moment. I'll report further on
- > whether NJ Bell/AT&T give her a hassle about the bogus charges, and
- > how long it takes to clear the "unexpected" connections.
-
- [deletia]
-
- > There have been numerous reports here about unscrupulous persons
- > making their own connections to other people's phone lines. The
- > person (or persons) involved here seem to have known that the lines
- > they "borrowed" were from a business, and what the normal working
- > hours for the business were. Only a few late nights led to the
- > discovery of the problem before the first bill showed up. Is there a
- > way a small business can protect themselves from this, or do we all
- > have to rely on the phone company straightening things out afterwards?
-
- This is a problem, and is going to be more and more prevalent as the
- years go on. Indeed how can a telephone customer protect himself/herself?
- Here in no particular order are a few thoughts.
-
- 1. If you get ISDN you will virtually eliminate this problem. The
- ne'er-do-wells who tap onto phone lines these days use very
- inexpensive conventional telephone equipment in their efforts, and
- cannot accomplish anything with an ISDN line (other than generating
- synch errors). It will be many years (perhaps a decade) before
- equipment to permit seamlessly connecting to an ISDN line becomes
- commonly available.
-
- 2. Before moving into a premises, do a security survey of the
- incoming utilities. Ideally the cable from telco passes underground,
- directly into your building. Ideally within your building the cable
- then goes straight to a room that nobody gets into without a key
- (ideally your key). Etc. Etc.
-
- 3. One bad situation is if your building is multi-tenant, and if the
- telephone wiring is in places that lots of people can get at (some
- public hallway in the basement, say).
-
- 4. Another bad situation is if there is a connection box outdoors,
- where anybody can get at it, with your non-ISDN dial tone ripe for the
- plucking. It is probably "locked" with a hex bolt that can only be
- "unlocked" by people who have such rare tools as socket wrenches.
-
- The key is to think about this *before* you move in. It is generally
- impossible to get the telephone company interested in the situation
- once you are there. "Yes, New Jersey Bell, that is *exactly* what I
- want you to do! Now get out here with that backhoe and put that line
- underground right now!"
-
- It is also generally impossible to get a landlord to do anything about
- this *after* you move in.
-
-
- Carl Oppedahl AA2KW Oppedahl & Larson (patent lawyers)
- Yorktown Heights, NY voice 212-777-1330
-
- ------------------------------
-
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