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- TELECOM Digest Fri, 11 Mar 94 13:43:00 CST Volume 14 : Issue 125
-
- Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
-
- Unitel Carrier Vote Proposal Criticised (Bell News via Dave Leibold)
- Expanded 900 Service in Canada (Bell News via Dave Leibold)
- Experience With a Telemarketer (Dave Niebuhr)
- Competition and Technology (Stewart Fist)
- "Nevada Plan" Information Needed (Tad J. Hunt)
- Latest Telephone Scumbag Use (Dave Niebuhr)
- ISDN BRI to IXC? (John McHarry)
- Video Conference Bridges (John McHarry)
- Mintel Emulation Software for MacIntosh Wanted (Franck Nazikian)
- Re: Erlang B and Required Trunks Functions (Stu Jeffery)
- Re: Information on Used Telecom Equipment Dealer Wanted (Dennis R. Hilton)
- Re: Digital Cellular Phones (David Boettger)
- Re: Can I Expect More Than 2400 Baud? (Bill Mayhew)
- Re: Unzipping ISDN File in Archives (jmdchicago@delphi.com)
- Re: Local CID Showing Out of Area (Dave Niebuhr)
- Re: Country Code For San Marino? (Bill Hofmann)
- Re: Prisoner Starts Own 900 Number (Eric Andruscavage)
-
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-
- From: Dave.Leibold@f730.n250.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Leibold)
- Date: 10 Mar 1994 23:08:42 -0500
- Subject: Unitel Carrier Vote Proposal Criticised
- Organization: FidoNet: The Super Continental - North York, Canada
-
-
- [from Bell News, Bell Ontario 7 Mar 94]
-
- Bell votes NO to Unitel's balloting proposal
-
- Bell strongly objects to the procedure, the price and the principle of
- "balloting" customers to ask them to vote for the long distance carrier
- they would prefer to do business with.
-
- Last Wednesday, Unitel Communications asked the CRTC to implement
- balloting to "provide residential and business customers with the
- opportunity to select their preferred long-distance carrier."
-
- The procedure, countered Bell, would be "complex and costly, one not
- in the public interest" -- a position Unitel itself previously advanced.
- The price, pointed out Bell, would involve some $15 million in mailing
- costs alone.
-
- But the principle of this referendum, said Bell, "ignores the fact
- that competition and free choice are already here in Canada -- and have
- been here for almost two years now. Consumers can pick up the phone
- and select any alternate long distance carrier they want today."
-
- "While Unitel wraps itself in the flags of competition and choice,
- what it is really proposing is the imposition of another layer of
- regulatory process in what is -- and should remain -- a free market
- decision," the company said in a public statement.
-
- Furthermore, said Bell, "We don't think customers will buy into the
- idea of a cumbersome, disruptive, and ultimately costly process that
- purports to give them what they already have: full choice.
-
- "It's like asking customers to fill out a ballot to decide what
- grocery store to shop at; they go to the one they believe offers them
- the best service and the best value. We doubt that customers want to
- be subjected to a referendum process for this kind of everyday, free
- market decision."
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Dave.Leibold@f730.n250.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Leibold)
- Date: 10 Mar 1994 23:09:06 -0500
- Subject: Expanded 900 Service in Canada
- Organization: FidoNet: The Super Continental - North York, Canada
-
-
- [from Bell News, Bell Ontario 7 Mar 94]
-
- Advantage 900 now interactive
-
- Advantage 900 service has just become interactive, and less _risque._
-
- The CRTC has granted approval of an enhanced Advantage 900 [tm]
- service. The enhancements include premises-based Advantage 900 and
- premium pricing which have been added to the already available
- network-based Advantage 900.
-
- With Advantage 900, callers are invited to dial certain 900-prefixed
- numbers so they can, for example, catch up on the latest news, get
- help while using their computer, or show their support for a political
- candidate.
-
- Information providers who qualify with the CRTC guidelines for content
- (porn purveyors won't make the grade) can have callers pay for Advantage
- 900 on a per-call basis, with the charges appearing on their telephone
- bill.
-
- Stentor developed the new premises-based Advantage 900 in response to
- customer demand for a more interactive way to communicate with callers.
-
- With premises-based Advantage 900, businesses and organization can
- offer pre- recorded, live and interactive programming from virtually
- anywhere in Canada. Callers have easy, direct-dial access to the
- customized information they need. Calls can terminate at the
- business's or organization's location, instead of at a telephone
- company office.
-
- With premium pricing, businesses, governments and organizations with
- Advantage 900 have the flexibility to set the price charged to
- Advantage 900 callers. They can also arrange to have the Stentor-
- owner companies, like Bell, bill and collect charges on their behalf.
-
- Previously, only network-based Advantage 900 has been available. With
- network-based Advantage 900, all calls are routed to recorded messages
- which are stored on the local telephone company's equipment, so callers
- had access only to one-way information.
-
- With approval from the CRTC, Stentor now has strict program content
- guidelines and consumer safeguards for Advantage 900 to protect
- callers from incurring unwanted charges. For example, the guidelines
- do not permit adult programming -- so called "gab" lines -- or programs
- that assign personal identification numbers (PINS) which must be used in
- subsequent calls.
-
- Callers will also hear a preamble message describing the program, the
- call charge and the service provider's name. If callers hang up in the
- first 18 seconds of the call, they will not be charged.
-
- The maximum allowable charges for Advantage 900 are $3.00 per call for
- programs intended for children and $50.00 for all other programs.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 06:43:14 EST
- From: dwn@dwn.ccd.bnl.gov (Dave Niebuhr)
- Subject: Experience with a Telemarketer
-
-
- I had an interesting experience with a persistent telemarketer last
- night.
-
- I'm listed in the phone book but not under my name.
-
- The first call came in (labelled Out-of-Area on my CID box) and the
- caller was told that there was no one in the house named "insert a
- name" there; less than a minute another call came in with the same ID
- and I took the call and told the woman that there was no one living in
- my house with the name she mentioned and that her information was
- obviously incorrect (true since it doesn't reveal my name).
-
- Call number three was the shortest. As soon as I said hello, she
- hung up.
-
- Using the pseuodnym is handy since it eliminates the "wheat from the
- chaff" type of telemarketing calls. Yes, I do accept some calls but
- only from companies that I deal with. Sears is an example. I'll get
- calls from them to take out a service contract on some appliance that
- I've bought from them; my fuel oil company trying to sell me fuel oil
- (yes, it does do that), etc.
-
-
- Dave Niebuhr Internet: dwn@dwn.ccd.bnl.gov (preferred)
- niebuhr@bnl.gov / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
- Senior Technical Specialist, Scientific Computing Facility
- Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973 (516)-282-3093
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Stewart Fist <100033.2145@CompuServe.COM>
- Subject: Competition and Technology
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 11:14:05 GMT
-
-
- Jerry Leichter <leichter@lrw.com> writes:
-
- > I have great respect for competition, but I have yet to see a sound
- > argument that the advance in services available *since* deregulation
- > is signficantly different from the advance *before* deregulation -
- > AFTER CONTROLLING FOR THE EXTRAORDINARY ADVANCE IN APPLICABLE
- > TECHNOLOGY.
-
- I couldn't agree more. I've just spent a lot of time analysing the
- long-distance charges (and the changes thereof) from country A to country B
- using a range of figures produced by the OECD, for a commissioned report.
-
- It is difficult stuff to analyse, but one thing became quite clear.
- There's been no more drop in international long-distance call prices
- in advanced (OECD) countries with competitive regimes than there has
- in those with monopoly regimes. I must say I was surprised at these
- findings, because the monopolies actually did slightly better --
- although the difference wasn't significant.
-
- My guess is that this results from a monopoly (at one end of a
- connection) having a duopoly to deal with (at the other), and
- therefore they can deal in such a way as to retain mutual higher
- prices from the duopoly end to the monopoly, but not from the monopoly
- end to the duopoly. The other guess, is that the duopolies and full
- competitive regimes spend so much on marketing and advertising that it
- wipes any 'competitive' advantage out. Certainly telephone companies
- are now the major financial supporters of television networks because
- of their levels of ad expenditure.
-
- One of the problems with Adam Smithian economics and the value of
- competition, is that it assumes that the price set by the suppliers
- results from the sale of a scarce resource. The whole of modern
- economic theory rests on the theory that price is a balance between
- competiting suppliers bidding down the price (to near real-cost
- levels) and competing buyers who will effectively pay ever higher
- prices for advantage in accessing the scarce resource. Eventually a
- balance is reached between the buyers buying, and the sellers selling.
-
- The trouble is that once you lay in a 36 fibre 1.2 Gigabit/sec cable
- between a couple of reasonable size towns, and you shove 32kbit/s
- ADPCM along it, you get a theoretical 1.3 million simultaneous calls,
- at an amortised price of about $US6 million a year for distances of
- about 1000 km. Which works out to about $5 per year per voice
- circuit.
-
- How does competition operate in an environment like this? Obviously,
- at these cost levels and with this capacity, a single cable, or a
- couple can satisfy most of the requirements of our largest cities -
- and the total expenditure on the cable is chickenfeed. Is it then in
- the interests of the competing companies to battle fiercely for market
- share by dropping prices, or by using the profit creaming to fund
- marketing plans and advertising?
-
- When you dig down to the bottom, the problem is that in an era where
- long-distance connection abundance is the norm (except that in many
- cases this is being deliberately knobbled) the normal competitive
- market forces do not apply in the way that conventional economics says
- it should.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: jjmhome!hunt@uunet.uu.net (Tad J. Hunt)
- Subject: "Nevada Plan" Information Needed
- Date: 11 Mar 1994 12:09:55 -0500
- Organization: Murray Enterprises
-
-
- I am looking for information related to what has been referred to as
- the Nevada Plan -- an arrangment where a long distance company pays
- the local termination charges to the owner of the phone number instead
- of the local phone company but that number can only be reached by
- using that long distance carrier. I would like to know if any special
- phone equipment is necessary to operate under such an arrangement.
- And who can I contact at AT&T or some other carrier to discuss this?
-
- I believe that speedway.net, an Internet services provider, is set up
- this way.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 08:42:45 EST
- From: dwn@dwn.ccd.bnl.gov (Dave Niebuhr)
- Subject: Latest Telephone Scumbag Use
-
-
- There is a scumbag on Long Island (area code 516) who is preying on
- women at home with the use of telephones.
-
- This dirtbag is calling the women and telling them that they have
- kidnapped their husbands and won't release them until the woman
- performs sexual acts with him. Even worse is that not only does he
- call at various hours during the day, but he calls during rush hours
- when the husband is more than likely unavailable.
-
- One call had a twist: he told the woman that he had kidnapped her
- mother and was going to rape her if she wife didn't comply.
-
- The police have advised that all calls should be reported immediately
- and if the homeowner has Caller ID, that should be checked to see if a
- number appears. Fat chance on this since Caller ID isn't 100 percent
- deployed to all exchanges and all possible telephone numbers. A
- better way would be to use the "Trap and Trace" feature even if it
- costs $0.75(US) per use and I believe it is available on all lines the
- same as per-call or per-line blocking.
-
-
- Dave Niebuhr Internet: dwn@dwn.ccd.bnl.gov (preferred)
- niebuhr@bnl.gov / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
- Senior Technical Specialist, Scientific Computing Facility
- Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973 (516)-282-3093
-
-
- [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This is an old one; it has gone around
- for many years. I remember hearing the phone company and police warn
- people against this ruse thirty years ago. I think you have to be awfully
- dumb to fall for it, but then, a lot of people are awfully dumb which is
- why it always seems to work so well with each new generation. One woman
- completly messed up the game when she got called: after being told her
- husband had been kidnapped and what she would have to do to get him back
- her answer was, "Keep the old %$^&^* ... I don't want him back." PAT]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 11:46:01 EST
- From: John McHarry <mcharry@access.digex.net>
- Subject: ISDN BRI to IXC?
-
-
- If I have an ISDN Basic Rate Interface (BRI) from my local exchange
- carrier and want to place an interexchange data call, how does the LEC
- interconnect with the IXC? Somebody told me that this has to be
- hooked to a switched 56kb trunk, but I don't see why the LEC couldn't
- just send it in a regular Feature Group D and tell the IXC it was a
- data call in the SS7 message. Am I missing something?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: John McHarry <mcharry@access.digex.net>
- Subject: Video Conference bridges
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 11:49:33 EST
-
-
- Who makes video conference bridges? What types of compressed video
- can they work with? Any thoughts on what is good, bad, etc.?
-
-
- John McHarry mcharry@access.digex.net
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 02:03:14 GMT
- From: nazikian@DGICII.mty.itesm.mx (Franck Nazikian)
- Subject: Minitel Emulation Software for MacIntosh Wanted
-
-
- Thank you very much for your help! I finally could solve my problem
- of Minitel emulation for P.C. Now, I've got another request: where
- can I find a Minitel emulation software for Macintosh, available on
- the Internet?
-
-
- Best regards,
-
- CII ITESM
- Franck NAZIKIAN
- Sucursal de Correos "J"
- MONTERREY N.L. 64849 MEXICO
- Tel: (52-8)-358-20-00 exts.50-76
- Fax: (52-8)-328-40-81
- Internet: nazikian@davinci.mty.itesm.mx
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 00:02:35 -0800
- From: stu@shell.portal.com (Stu Jeffery)
- Subject: Re: Erlang B and Required Trunks Functions
-
-
- In TELECOM Digest V14 #121 josmon@dellgate.us.dell.com (John Osmon)
- writes:
-
- > I am a programmer in the Telecom Department here at Dell, and my
- > latest project is to pull trunk usage data and produce usage
- > predictions for said trunks.
-
- > This isn't really my field, so I had a co-worker write the request for
- > me:
-
- > We need a way to calculate the number of voice circuits needed to
- > provide standard levels of service using the Retrial method. Ideally
- > we would plug into a formula the following:
-
- > - offered CCS of traffic
- > - grade-of-service desired (P.01, P.001, P.05)
-
- > The formula would then calculate the number of trunks needed WITHOUT
- > resorting to lookup tables.
-
- > If available, formulas for Erlang B method would also be useful.
-
- > These would be most useful as assembler, C, or XBase sub-routines.
- > Does any one know where I can find these?
-
- There are several ways of solving the equations with a recursive form
- of the Equation. I have seen several Traffic Engineering books with
- Basic programs. Here is one example in C that I wrote.
-
- /*
- * This program will compute required number of circuits
- * for designated Grade of Service, using Erlang B equation
- */
-
- /*
- * include files
- */
-
- #include <stdio.h>
- #include <math.h>
-
- main()
- {
- double C, Traffic, GOS, Prob_of_cong, B;
- int Trunks, A_max;
-
- while ( 1 == 1)
- {
- printf( "Offered Traffic: " );
- scanf( "%lf", &Traffic);
- printf( "GOS: " );
- scanf( "%lf", &GOS )
- Prob_of_cong = 1;
- Trunks = 0
- while ( Prob_of_cong > GOS)
-
- {
- Trunks = Trunks + 1;
- Prob_of_cong = (Prob_of_cong * Traffic) /
- (Trunks + (Traffic * Prob_of_cong));
-
- }
- printf( "Number of ckts %i and conjestion %5.4f\n",
- Trunks, Prob_of_cong );
-
- printf (" \n");
-
- }
- }
-
- Sample output
-
- Offered Traffic: 10
- GOS: .01
- Number of ckts 18 and conjestion 0.0071
-
- Offered Traffic: 10
- GOS: .02
- Number of ckts 17 and conjestion 0.0129
-
- Offered Traffic: 10
- GOS: .05
- Number of ckts 15 and conjestion 0.0365
-
- Offered Traffic: 20
- GOS: .01
- Number of ckts 30 and conjestion 0.0085
-
- Offered Traffic: 20
- GOS: .02
- Number of ckts 28 and conjestion 0.0188
-
- Offered Traffic: 20
- GOS: .05
- Number of ckts 26 and conjestion 0.0372
-
-
- Stu Jeffery Internet: stu@shell.portal.com
- 1072 Seena Ave. voice: 415-966-8199
- Los Altos, CA. 94024 fax: 415-966-8199
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: sgiblab!kaiwan.com!troi!DRHilton@uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com (Dennis R. Hilton)
- Subject: Re: Information on Used Telecom Equipment Dealer Wanted
- Date: 11 Mar 94 04:46:32 GMT
- Reply-To: sgiblab!kaiwan.com!troi!drhilton@uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com
- Organization: kaiwan.com Internet Access (714) 638-2139
-
-
- In article <telecom14.122.7@eecs.nwu.edu>, Kenneth Leung wrote:
-
- > I am looking for dealers of used telecom equipment such as AT&T Merlin
- > phone sets and used AT&T PBXs.
-
- Call information for Long Beach, CA, and ask for Native Son (or Sun)
- communications.
-
-
- Best,
-
- Dennis R. Hilton <drhilton@kaiwan.com>
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 07:32:00 +0000
- From: david boettger <boettger@bnr.ca>
- Subject: Re: Digital Cellular Phones
-
-
- In article <telecom14.123.9@eecs.nwu.edu>, stevef@wrq.com (Steve
- Forrette) writes:
-
- > In <telecom14.96.1@eecs.nwu.edu>, jrg@rahul.net (John Galloway) writes:
-
- >> But if this key is fixed (since it is not transmited I assume it is)
- >> then all the cellular blue box builder need to is disect a phone to
- >> get it. This might not be a trivial opeation, but these crooks are
- >> pretty smart fellows.
-
- > Are you assuming that the key is the same for all phones?
-
- What good is a key that's the same for all phones?
-
- > If the key is different for each phone, then the crook would have to
- > get a hold of a particular phone to dissect it to get the key. And if
- > they have physical possession of the phone, there is little need to
- > get the key in order to make fraudulent calls, right?
-
- Yup. That's the idea.
-
- David Boettger boettger@bnr.ca
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: wtm@uhura.neoucom.EDU (Bill Mayhew)
- Subject: Re: Can I Expect More Than 2400 Baud?
- Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 16:34:10 GMT
-
-
- As pointed out, the underlying symbol rate for 14.4 Kbps modems is
- still 2400 baud. Nonetheless, my practical experience in running our
- modem bank connecting 13 hospitals in six cities here in NE Ohio, is
- that 14.4K is much more troublesome than 9600 bps data calls over POTS
- (plain old telephone service) lines.
-
- I use good quailty Multitech or DSI rack type modems on my end, but
- the user community can have almost any sort of equipment. The
- Multitechs support 14.4K v.32bis while the DSIs are 9600 v.32 max
- modulation. There is definitely a correlation between good name brand
- equipment and the success of the connection.
-
- My chief problem is that users call my system with their modems set to
- demand 14.4K rate. Our systems will connect, but the error correction
- rate is so high that througput is almost zero. Apparently, whatever
- heuristic method is used by the modems doesn't see anything wrong with
- the connection and thus force a fallback. I do have my end programmed
- to accept and/or request a fallback. I've also tried calling from
- some of the troublesome locations and thus am sure that their modems
- have fallback enabled too, yet the connection will remain stoically
- locked at 14.4K doing copious error correction with abysmal throghput.
- I've gone over the prblem with Multitech and didn't get anything more
- than the patented Tom and Ray Magliozi mechanic's shrug as a response.
- >From those same troublesome locations, virtually all calls forced to
- initate with 9600 moduation complete with hardly any error correction
- and good througput.
-
- I don't have any current means of measuring it, but what I am
- beginning to suspect is that there is phase jitter present on these
- lines. The modem training sequence can do echo cancellation, group
- delay equalization and amplitude equalization, but the training
- sequence can't compensate for rapidly varying phase shift on the line.
- The nature of the problems I have doesn't seem to depend on the length
- of the circuit or number of central offices involved.
-
- What puzzles me is that the modems don't fall back when the performacne
- gets to be so bad. It would appear that the error correction engine
- needs to have some sort of input the the egine that handles modulation.
- I am not imtimately familiar with v.32bis / v.42bis specifications,
- but some handshaking between the two parts of the modem would seem to
- be a most reasonable and logical thing to do.
-
-
- Bill Mayhew NEOUCOM Computer Services Department
- Rootstown, OH 44272-0095 USA phone: 216-325-2511
- wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu amateur radio 146.58: N8WED
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 01:58:00 EST
- From: JMDCHICAGO@delphi.com
- Subject: Re: Unzipping ISDN File in Archives
-
-
- sshaver@nde.unl.edu (jeff shaver) wrote:
-
- > I recently ftp'ed the ISDN.deployment.data.zip file from the Telecom
- > Archives, but I can't unzip it. PKZip 2.04(g?) tells me it's not a
- > zip file. Any ideas? Thanks for your help!
-
- The file may have been zipped using an older version of PKZip. PKWare
- came out with a new version of the zipping software, which is not bak-
- wards compatible with the older version. It may need the older version
- to unzip it properly. (This created downloading hell on a lot of bulletin
- boards here recently.)
-
- Another possibility is that the FTP was done using ASCII, not binary,
- resulting in a corruption of the file as it came over the system.
-
-
- [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Whatever the cause, I now have another
- copy of it here in a MIME version and will send it to whoever writes me
- to ask for it. This one is supposed to work with 2.04 PKUNZIP. PAT]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 06:35:55 EST
- From: dwn@dwn.ccd.bnl.gov (Dave Niebuhr)
- Subject: Re: Local CID Showing Out of Area
-
-
- > stevef@wrq.com (Steve Forrette) wrote:
-
- > In <telecom14.102.4@eecs.nwu.edu>, richard.dervan@atlwin.com (Richard
- > Dervan) writes:
-
- >> I had an interesting experience last week. I got paged by my computer
- >> indicating it had received a voice message for me. Since I was
- >> expecting a message from my sweetie, I went to a pay phone, called my
- >> computer, and picked up the message.
-
- >> When I got home, I saw OUT-OF-AREA on my CID box.
-
- > Did you use coins to place the call? Any other method of payment
- > (such as calling card, collect, etc) is likely to cause OUT OF AREA on
- > a Caller ID box, even if both ends of the call are in the same CO.
-
- When CID was deployed in my area (516 area code), I tried calling home
- from a pay phone and the number was displayed. However, when I call
- home while I'm having my car serviced at a local service station, the
- number doesn't show.
-
- The difference is that the pay phone on the corner is NYNEX owned,
- and the other one is a COCOT.
-
-
- Dave Niebuhr Internet: dwn@dwn.ccd.bnl.gov (preferred)
- niebuhr@bnl.gov / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
- Senior Technical Specialist, Scientific Computing Facility
- Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973 (516)-282-3093
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: wdh@netcom.com (Bill Hofmann)
- Subject: Re: Country Code For San Marino?
- Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 17:09:38 GMT
-
-
- I just checked out the report from Martin Kealey about San Marino's
- country code change. According to Sprint International Operator, the
- country code is indeed 378.
-
- Also, on the former Soviet Union, I just heard from Lithuania's embassy
- about telecom there. Some highlights:
-
- * city codes have been shortened: Vilnius now is "2", not "0122"
- other city codes are shortened in a similar way.
- * long distance access code is 8<pause>2, intl is 8<pause>10
- * operator is 8p194, 8p195 (English), 8p196 (AT&T)
-
- There are access codes to former USSR cities, but I don't have the data
- in front of me.
-
-
- Bill Hofmann wdh@netcom.COM
- Fresh Software and Instructional Design +1 510 524 0852
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: eric@access.digex.net (Eric Andruscavage)
- Subject: Re: Prisoner Starts Own 900 Number
- Date: 11 Mar 1994 12:53:29 -0500
- Organization: Zeta Data, Laurel, Maryland, USA
-
-
- > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: ... this? Because they take advantage
- > of a class of people who have absolutely no other choice in how
- > their phone calls are placed; i.e. prisoners.
-
- Does this mean that prison phones are blocked from calling 1-800-COLLECT
- or the 800 number for AT&T long distance? I would like to say that I once
- got a collect call from a prisoner (wrong number, I hope) and the
- operator made it clear that it was a collect call from a federal
- prison. Since we normally accepted collect calls, I would have taken
- the call if this hadn't been made clear. I wonder if MCI or AT&T would
- provide the same service.
-
-
- Eric Andruscavage
- First thing - let's kill all the Shakespeareans
- DBMS Design/Programming/Training/Answers Questioned
- Laurel, Maryland * 301/206-2030
-
-
- [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There is a Class of Service available in
- modern switches to accomodate telephones used by prison inmates. For quite
- a long time all the phones at Cook County Jail including the administrative
- ones have been on their own centrex: 312-890. But the phones used by prison-
- ers are very restricted.
-
- All calls have to be dialed zero-plus. All one-plus calls are intercepted
- with 'call cannot be completed as dialed ...' Stuff like 10xxx/800/950/etc.
- is totally blocked out. Those calls all go to intercept if dialed as
- one-plus and just vanish in the ether, neither completing or getting denied
- if dialed as zero-plus. Zero-plus any regular area code and number brings a
- telco operator on the line whose display clearly indicates the circumstances
- and the *only* way she can process the call is on a collect basis. No credit
- card or third number billing is allowed, and as you pointed out, the operator
- plainly tells the called party that the call is collect from (name), a
- prisoner at Cook County Jail. If someone knew the numbers on the phones in the
- cellblocks and tries to call in, an intercept says the number is in service
- for outgoing calls only. The phones all have rotary dials, of course, so there
- can be no games with touch-tones. Dialing to other extensions on the centrex
- is blocked, as are calls to the 0 operator, 411, 611, and 911.
-
- In the regulations pertaining to equal access and the use of 10xxx, etc, there
- are exceptions built in for certain circumstances, prisons and jails being one
- such circumstance. Gee, and *you* thought the college phone system in your
- dorm was pretty restrictive :) Look how bad the 'students' have it at the
- College of Hard Knocks and Practical Experience. :) PAT]
-
- ------------------------------
-
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- To : ELIOT GELWAN PVT RCVD
- Subj : TELECOM Digest V14 #126
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- To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
- Subject: TELECOM Digest V14 #126
-
- TELECOM Digest Fri, 11 Mar 94 14:51:00 CST Volume 14 : Issue 126
-
- Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
-
- Country Code Listing (Lars Poulsen)
- BCE Buys More Atlantic Interests (Bell News via Dave Leibold)
- Mexico Link For Canada Direct (Bell News via Dave Leibold)
- Re: Clipped Again (Maxime Taksar)
- MCI Wow It's Hot Hotline (Jonny Quest)
- Re: Prisoner Starts Own 900 Number (Steve Cogorno)
-
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- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 09:58:08 +0100
- From: lars@eskimo.CPH.CMC.COM (Lars Poulsen)
- Subject: Country Code Listing
- Organization: CMC Network Products, Copenhagen DENMARK
-
-
- In article <telecom14.120.5@eecs.nwu.edu> is written:
-
- > Can anyone send me a list of current two and three character country
- > codes. I have most of them, but what with the breakup of various
- > countries and what-not, I figure I'm missing a few (codes, that is)
-
- I found this list at my local IP service provider's FTP server. The
- three-digits codes are NOT telephone country codes; the only place I
- have seen them used, is in MS-DOS.
-
- Postal Address:
- ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency
- DIN Burggrafenstrasse 6
- D-1000 Berlin 30
- phone: +49 30 26010
- Fax: +49 30 2601231
-
- NOTE: Entries for Croatia, Slovenia and Bosnia Hercegovina not yet complete.
-
- AFGHANISTAN AF AFG 004
- ALBANIA AL ALB 008
- ALGERIA DZ DZA 012
- AMERICAN SAMOA AS ASM 016
- ANDORRA AD AND 020
- ANGOLA AO AGO 024
- ANGUILLA AI AIA 660
- ANTARCTICA AQ ATA 010
- ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA AG ATG 028
- ARGENTINA AR ARG 032
- ARMENIA AM ARM 051
- ARUBA AW ABW 533
- AUSTRALIA AU AUS 036
- AUSTRIA AT AUT 040
- AZERBAIJAN AZ AZE 031
- BAHAMAS BS BHS 044
- BAHRAIN BH BHR 048
- BANGLADESH BD BGD 050
- BARBADOS BB BRB 052
- BELGIUM BE BEL 056
- BELIZE BZ BLZ 084
- BENIN BJ BEN 204
- BERMUDA BM BMU 060
- BHUTAN BT BTN 064
- BOLIVIA BO BOL 068
- BOSNIA HERCEGOVINA BA BIH
- BOTSWANA BW BWA 072
- BOUVET ISLAND BV BVT 074
- BRAZIL BR BRA 076
- BRITISH INDIAN OCEAN TERRITORY IO IOT 086
- BRUNEI DARUSSALAM BN BRN 096
- BULGARIA BG BGR 100
- BURKINA FASO BF BFA 854
- BURUNDI BI BDI 108
- BELARUS BY BLR 112
- CAMBODIA KH KHM 116
- CAMEROON CM CMR 120
- CANADA CA CAN 124
- CAPE VERDE CV CPV 132
- CAYMAN ISLANDS KY CYM 136
- CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC CF CAF 140
- CHAD TD TCD 148
- CHILE CL CHL 152
- CHINA CN CHN 156
- CHRISTMAS ISLAND CX CXR 162
- COCOS (KEELING) ISLANDS CC CCK 166
- COLOMBIA CO COL 170
- COMOROS KM COM 174
- CONGO CG COG 178
- COOK ISLANDS CK COK 184
- COSTA RICA CR CRI 188
- COTE D'IVOIRE CI CIV 384
- CROATIA HR HRV
- CUBA CU CUB 192
- CYPRUS CY CYP 196
- CZECH REPUBLIC CZ CZE 203
- CZECHOSLOVAKIA CS CSK 200
- DENMARK DK DNK 208
- DJIBOUTI DJ DJI 262
- DOMINICA DM DMA 212
- DOMINICAN REPUBLIC DO DOM 214
- EAST TIMOR TP TMP 626
- ECUADOR EC ECU 218
- EGYPT EG EGY 818
- EL SALVADOR SV SLV 222
- EQUATORIAL GUINEA GQ GNQ 226
- ESTONIA EE EST 233
- ETHIOPIA ET ETH 230
- FALKLAND ISLANDS (MALVINAS) FK FLK 238
- FAROE ISLANDS FO FRO 234
- FIJI FJ FJI 242
- FINLAND FI FIN 246
- FRANCE FR FRA 250
- FRENCH GUIANA GF GUF 254
- FRENCH POLYNESIA PF PYF 258
- FRENCH SOUTHERN TERRITORIES TF ATF 260
- GABON GA GAB 266
- GAMBIA GM GMB 270
- GEORGIA GE GEO 268
- GERMANY DE DEU 276
- GHANA GH GHA 288
- GIBRALTAR GI GIB 292
- GREECE GR GRC 300
- GREENLAND GL GRL 304
- GRENADA GD GRD 308
- GUADELOUPE GP GLP 312
- GUAM GU GUM 316
- GUATEMALA GT GTM 320
- GUINEA GN GIN 324
- GUINEA-BISSAU GW GNB 624
- GUYANA GY GUY 328
- HAITI HT HTI 332
- HEARD AND MC DONALD ISLANDS HM HMD 334
- HONDURAS HN HND 340
- HONG KONG HK HKG 344
- HUNGARY HU HUN 348
- ICELAND IS ISL 352
- INDIA IN IND 356
- INDONESIA ID IDN 360
- IRAN (ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF) IR IRN 364
- IRAQ IQ IRQ 368
- IRELAND IE IRL 372
- ISRAEL IL ISR 376
- ITALY IT ITA 380
- JAMAICA JM JAM 388
- JAPAN JP JPN 392
- JORDAN JO JOR 400
- KAZAKHSTAN KZ KAZ 398
- KENYA KE KEN 404
- KIRIBATI KI KIR 296
- KOREA, DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF KP PRK 408
- KOREA, REPUBLIC OF KR KOR 410
- KUWAIT KW KWT 414
- KYRGYZSTAN KG KGZ 417
- LAO PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC LA LAO 418
- LATVIA LV LVA 428
- LEBANON LB LBN 422
- LESOTHO LS LSO 426
- LIBERIA LR LBR 430
- LIBYAN ARAB JAMAHIRIYA LY LBY 434
- LIECHTENSTEIN LI LIE 438
- LITHUANIA LT LTU 440
- LUXEMBOURG LU LUX 442
- MACAU MO MAC 446
- MADAGASCAR MG MDG 450
- MALAWI MW MWI 454
- MALAYSIA MY MYS 458
- MALDIVES MV MDV 462
- MALI ML MLI 466
- MALTA MT MLT 470
- MARSHALL ISLANDS MH MHL 584
- MARTINIQUE MQ MTQ 474
- MAURITANIA MR MRT 478
- MAURITIUS MU MUS 480
- MEXICO MX MEX 484
- MICRONESIA FM FSM 583
- MOLDOVA, REPUBLIC OF MD MDA 498
- MONACO MC MCO 492
- MONGOLIA MN MNG 496
- MONTSERRAT MS MSR 500
- MOROCCO MA MAR 504
- MOZAMBIQUE MZ MOZ 508
- MYANMAR MM MMR 104
- NAMIBIA NA NAM 516
- NAURU NR NRU 520
- NEPAL NP NPL 524
- NETHERLANDS NL NLD 528
- NETHERLANDS ANTILLES AN ANT 532
- NEUTRAL ZONE NT NTZ 536
- NEW CALEDONIA NC NCL 540
- NEW ZEALAND NZ NZL 554
- NICARAGUA NI NIC 558
- NIGER NE NER 562
- NIGERIA NG NGA 566
- NIUE NU NIU 570
- NORFOLK ISLAND NF NFK 574
- NORTHERN MARIANA ISLANDS MP MNP 580
- NORWAY NO NOR 578
- OMAN OM OMN 512
- PAKISTAN PK PAK 586
- PALAU PW PLW 585
- PANAMA PA PAN 590
- PAPUA NEW GUINEA PG PNG 598
- PARAGUAY PY PRY 600
- PERU PE PER 604
- PHILIPPINES PH PHL 608
- PITCAIRN PN PCN 612
- POLAND PL POL 616
- PORTUGAL PT PRT 620
- PUERTO RICO PR PRI 630
- QATAR QA QAT 634
- REUNION RE REU 638
- ROMANIA RO ROM 642
- RUSSIAN FEDERATION RU RUS 643
- RWANDA RW RWA 646
- ST. HELENA SH SHN 654
- SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS KN KNA 659
- SAINT LUCIA LC LCA 662
- ST. PIERRE AND MIQUELON PM SPM 666
- SAINT VINCENT AND THE GRENADINES VC VCT 670
- SAMOA WS WSM 882
- SAN MARINO SM SMR 674
- SAO TOME AND PRINCIPE ST STP 678
- SAUDI ARABIA SA SAU 682
- SENEGAL SN SEN 686
- SEYCHELLES SC SYC 690
- SIERRA LEONE SL SLE 694
- SINGAPORE SG SGP 702
- SLOVAKIA SK SVK 703
- SLOVENIA SI SVN
- SOLOMON ISLANDS SB SLB 090
- SOMALIA SO SOM 706
- SOUTH AFRICA ZA ZAF 710
- SPAIN ES ESP 724
- SRI LANKA LK LKA 144
- SUDAN SD SDN 736
- SURINAME SR SUR 740
- SVALBARD AND JAN MAYEN ISLANDS SJ SJM 744
- SWAZILAND SZ SWZ 748
- SWEDEN SE SWE 752
- SWITZERLAND CH CHE 756
- SYRIAN ARAB REPUBLIC SY SYR 760
- TAIWAN, PROVINCE OF CHINA TW TWN 158
- TAJIKISTAN TJ TJK 762
- TANZANIA, UNITED REPUBLIC OF TZ TZA 834
- THAILAND TH THA 764
- TOGO TG TGO 768
- TOKELAU TK TKL 772
- TONGA TO TON 776
- TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO TT TTO 780
- TUNISIA TN TUN 788
- TURKEY TR TUR 792
- TURKMENISTAN TM TKM 795
- TURKS AND CAICOS ISLANDS TC TCA 796
- TUVALU TV TUV 798
- UGANDA UG UGA 800
- UKRAINE UA UKR 804
- UNITED ARAB EMIRATES AE ARE 784
- UNITED KINGDOM GB GBR 826
- UNITED STATES US USA 840
- UNITED STATES MINOR OUTLYING ISLANDS UM UMI 581
- URUGUAY UY URY 858
- USSR SU SUN 810
- UZBEKISTAN UZ UZB 860
- VANUATU VU VUT 548
- VATICAN CITY STATE (HOLY SEE) VA VAT 336
- VENEZUELA VE VEN 862
- VIET NAM VN VNM 704
- VIRGIN ISLANDS (BRITISH) VG VGB 092
- VIRGIN ISLANDS (U.S.) VI VIR 850
- WALLIS AND FUTUNA ISLANDS WF WLF 876
- WESTERN SAHARA EH ESH 732
- YEMEN, REPUBLIC OF YE YEM 887
- YUGOSLAVIA YU YUG 890
- ZAIRE ZR ZAR 180
- ZAMBIA ZM ZMB 894
- ZIMBABWE ZW ZWE 716
-
-
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- CMC Network Products Phone: (011-) +45-31 49 81 08
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-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Dave.Leibold@f730.n250.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Leibold)
- Date: 10 Mar 94 23:08:28 -0500
- Subject: BCE Buys More Atlantic Interests
- Organization: FidoNet: The Super Continental - North York, Canada
-
-
- [from Bell News, Bell Ontario, 7 Mar 94]
-
- BCE acquires Bruncor and MT&T shares
-
- BCE, our parent corporation, has increased its stake in two phone
- companies in the Atlantic provinces.
-
- BCE now owns 8,902,015 shares of Bruncor Inc. of New Brunswick,
- representing approximately 41.04 per cent of Bruncor's issued and
- outstanding common shares, and 9,925,564 common shares of Maritime
- Telegraph and Telephone Company (MT&T) of Nova Scotia, representing
- approximately 35.4 per cent of MT&T's issued and outstanding common
- shares.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Dave.Leibold@f730.n250.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Leibold)
- Date: 10 Mar 94 23:08:54 -0500
- Subject: Mexico Link for Canada Direct
- Organization: FidoNet: The Super Continental - North York, Canada
-
-
- [from Bell News, Bell Ontario 7 Mar 94]
-
- Mexico joins Canada Direct
-
- For Canadians soaking up Mexican rays, calling home just became a
- whole lot easier.
-
- Canadian tourists or business people can now use their Calling Card or
- Call Me Card, thanks to Telmex's activation on February 16 of Canada
- Direct service.
-
- Canada Direct service allows Canadians travelling on foreign soil to
- call home with the assistance of Canadian operators. The service
- avoids the potential for confusion when dealing with an operator who
- has little or no command of English or French.
-
- To call home from Mexico with Canada Direct, callers dial 95 800 010
- 1990 to connect with a Canadian operator.
-
- With the Calling Card information supplied by the caller, the operator
- validates the card and completes the call.
-
- Canada Direct is also available in 87 other countries.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 11:06:39 -0800
- From: Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS <mmt@RedBrick.COM>
- Subject: Re: Clipped Again
-
-
- In article <telecom14.117.4@eecs.nwu.edu>, padgett@tccslr.dnet.mmc.com
- (A. Padgett Peterson) writes:
-
- > This makes no sense to me. Today there is *no* privacy in phone calls
- > so the question must have been worded so as to imply that there is for
- > people to believe that Clipper provides *less*.
-
- This is actually something that deserves being addressed.
-
- At the moment, there *is* privacy in phone calls, in the sense that
- it's difficult for a (hypothetical) agency of the government to do
- complete, automated traffic analysis of any given telephone. Clipper
- will make this possible to an agency that does not mind skirting
- inconvenient laws and that can get easy access to most, if not all,
- phone traffic in the US. The NSA has a very good possibility (and has
- a history [read {The Puzzle Palace} by James Bamford for details]) of
- engaging in such activities, so this is not merely hypothetical.
-
- In any case, I think this has strayed from general telecom topics and
- probably belong in comp.society.privacy, comp.risks, and/or talk.politics.
- crypto.
-
-
- Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS mmt@RedBrick.COM PGP key by request
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: nboddie@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Jonny Quest)
- Subject: MCI Wow It's Hot Hotline
- Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 18:46:33 GMT
-
-
- Does anyone know this number? I saw it a few days ago and lost it.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: cogorno@netcom.com (Steve Cogorno)
- Subject: Re: Prisoner Starts Own 900 Number
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 10:40:26 PST
-
-
- TELECOM Digest Editor Noted:
-
- > Most hitchikers didn't fare as well with him. Maybe you just weren't
- > his type. :)
-
- And what type is that? I certainly hope that is not driven by homophobia.
-
- Since we are discussing politics here, I would like to point out that
- just because he was convicted of murder and imprisoned does not mean
- that he shouldn't be able to run a 900 number business. If people
- want to call, that's their prerogative. How is it different from
- Angela Davis (who is a very well respected professor in academic
- circles) writing a book while she was a political prisoner? Both are
- telling their versions of the truth, and if you want to hear it, fine.
- If you don't, then don't call.
-
-
- Steve cogorno@netcom.com
- #608 Merrill * 200 McLaughlin Drive * Santa Cruz, CA 95064-1015
-
-
- [TELECOM Digest Editor's Homophobic Response: Thank you for sharing your
- version of the truth with us. To compare Angela Davis and her crimes with
- people like John Wayne Gacy and Jeff Dahmer (talk about homophobia! the
- one killed homosexuals, the other one ate them ...) is a bit of a stretch
- in my opinion but you are entitled to make that comparison if you wish. I
- am not certain how Ms. Davis would feel about the comparison. PAT]
-
- ------------------------------
-
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