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- The following is a collection of all the postings that have appeared in the
- RISKS Digest over the past couple weeks on the subject of Automatic Number
- Identification and related telecom issues. I thought it was worthwhile to
- get this info into the Telecom archives in addition to its being in RISKS.
- It appears the discussion has ended on RISKS, so I'm sending this now.
-
- There's enough of it that the moderator may want to make it an FTP-able
- file instead of sending out to the list.
-
- Regards, Will Martin
- *********
- Date: Thu, 01 Sep 88 09:10:40 PDT
- From: jon@june.cs.washington.edu (Jon Jacky)
- Subject: "Pizzamation" traces phone calls, matches addresses
-
- Excerpted from a story in THE SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER,
- 18 August 1988, pps. B5 and B8:
-
- CHAINS ARE PUTTING THE BYTE ON PIZZA DELIVERIES by Jim Erickson
-
- Tim Turnpaugh was caught off guard recently when he telephoned for a pizza
- to be delivered to his home. When he got the pizza company on the line,
- the person taking orders greeted him by name like an old friend -- before
- Turnpaugh could identify himself -- and cheerily asked if he'd like the same
- toppings he asked for on a previous order.
-
- "I didn't have to give them directions to my house, nothing," he said.
- Everything the company needed to know was gathered during a previous purchase
- and stored in the memory of a computer, ready for instant regurgitation.
- This is the brave new world of pizzamation.
-
- Godfather's pizza in Washington [state] is one such firm on the cutting edge
- of pizza technology. Inside a gray-walled, nondescript building in a
- Renton [Seattle suburb] business park, 80 desktop computers are lined up in
- rows at Godfather's state communications center. Not a single pizza oven is
- in sight. On a hectic Friday night, as many as 50 part-time employees sit in
- front of the tricolor screens, taking orders. ... If you've called before,
- the computer instantly identifies and recognizes your telephone number, and
- retrieves information from previous orders. "Customers don't even know a
- lot of the time they've reached a centralized system," said Donna Brown,
- manager of the center. "They still think they're calling a local restaurant."
- ...
-
- After the order is placed, the computer decides which of 51 restaurants or
- outlets in Western Washington, or 10 in Eastern Washington, is closest to the
- customer. The computer totals the price and relays the order and delivery
- instructions to the kitchen of a restaurant or outlet, where it comes out on
- a network printer. ...
-
- Brown said the system allows the company to keep track of sales data, and
- since it records addresses -- more than 500,000 are stored in Godfather's
- memory banks -- it can be used for direct-mail marketing. ...
-
- Cathy Nichols, owner of four franchised Domino's Pizza stores in Renton
- and Maple Valley, installed computers early this year ... Since the computer
- matches phone numbers with addresses, it also helps smoke out young pranksters
- who habitually order unwanted pizzas for the unsuspecting. ...
- [Not if they are smart enough to read a phone book. PGN]
-
- Some customers may worry that their local pizza retailer may be keeping records
- on their eating habits as well as detailed directions to their house. It can
- be unsettling to think that the Big Cheese is watching you. Nichols
- acknowledged that large, centralized systems are "kind of scary." "There's one
- number in the state that you call, and they know everything about you."
-
- Bill Brown of Godfather's said she could recall only three people who asked
- that their records be purged, and only because they didn't want to wind up
- on mailing lists. Their records were immediately removed, she said, adding
- that Godfather's does not sell its mailing list to other companies.
-
- [This is the first confirmed report I have seen of marketing outfits tracing
- calls, although I have heard rumors of other systems in which calling an 800-
- number in response to some promotion would put your phone number on a list that
- would later be matched in order to derive your name and address. It is my
- observation that most people believe that "tracing a call" is still a
- difficult, time consuming process that cannot be done routinely. This story
- shows that it is a service phone companies offer to commercial customers,
- although I have not seen any reports of it also being offered to residential
- customers (who would then be able to ignore calls from marketers, cranks, etc.)
- Jonathan Jacky, University of Washington]
-
- [In an unrelated development, some of the pizza outfitters are selling
- leather pizza outfits -- that is, protective clothing for the pizzas. If
- the pizza chains are going into leather, maybe S&M now stands for salami
- and mushrooms. PGN]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 1 Sep 88 22:22:08 EDT
- From: Mark W. Eichin <eichin@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>
- Subject: Calling party identification
-
- >... It is my observation that most people believe that "tracing a call" is
- >still a difficult, time consuming process that cannot be done routinely. This
- >story shows that it is a service phone companies offer to commercial
- >customers, although I have not seen any reports of it also being offered to
- >residential customers ...
-
- I believe the New Jersey telco offered digital display of incoming number to
- private subscribers a year ago; here at MIT, with the installation of a 5ESS
- system with full ISDN support available to offices, the digital set
- automatically displays the phone number the call came from (if it was within
- MIT; apparently there isn't software in place to track calls from other
- switches yet, the display merely indicates "Outside"). The documentation for
- the dormitory phones included mention of a ``privacy code'' which meant dialing
- 65 before any phone number; the pamphlet with the phone didn't actually explain
- what the privacy code *did* however.
-
- Mark Eichin, SIPB Member & Project Athena ``Watchmaker''
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 1 Sep 88 22:42 EDT
- From: TMPLee@DOCKMASTER.ARPA
- Subject: Calling party identification Phone number tracing
-
- Our local cable company must use the same kind of connection to the phone
- company that the pizza place mentioned in RISKS-7.42 does. They have several
- pay-by-view channels and a set of incoming phone numbers. To order a
- pay-by-view event all you do is dial something like 938-77xx where the xx is
- the "ordering" code for the particular movie or live event (local sports, etc.)
- you want. A computer answers the call and is somehow told where the call was
- from; it looks that up in a data base, finds the i.d. of your cable box and
- enables the show. (It goes on your bill, of course.) Rather clever, actually:
- no human operators and it works from either a dial phone or a touch tone phone.
- Don't use it much, and apart from misdialling the only "risk" I have is
- remembering to use line 1 rather than line 2.
- Ted Lee
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 1 Sep 88 19:57:52 xDT
- From: [anonymous]
- Subject: Calling party identification
-
- While there is work going on to allow for the identification of calling parties
- by the callee, such systems are not generally implemented and won't be for some
- time to come. There are some limited test projects, but I don't believe that
- any large-scale operation of the sort implied is currently operational.
-
- Most likely what is actually happening is that the first question people are
- asked when they call the pizza folks is "what is your phone number?" Then
- the computer operator punches that in and up pops all the info from any
- previous call. It is unlikely that they are receiving the calling party's
- number in realtime. It IS true that with some long-distance carriers' 800
- callers numbers are made available to the callee, but this is done on a
- billing cycle basis (i.e., in the billing statement) and not in realtime.
- If it turns out the pizza folks ARE receiving the number ID in realtime,
- then they are in one of the test groups and one can't help but wonder how
- many folks in the area realize the ramifications of this all (see below).
-
- Now, in the middle future the issue of the callee being able to receive the
- number of the caller will be a significant one for us all. The technology is
- being put into place. At first glance, many people might say, "Gee, how neat,
- I'll know the numbers of the phone solicitors who bother me." But think again.
- It would work both ways. Do you really want YOUR phone number recorded (and
- possibly later called back with solicitations, matched with addresses for
- mailings, etc.) whenever you call a business, possibly from your private line
- you only intend to use for outgoing calls, or from some friend's house or
- business from where you happened to make the call? If you make a business call
- from home, do you necessarily want the person receiving the call to immediately
- have your home number? Do they have any right to that number rather than
- calling you back on the office number you might give them? There are a variety
- of complex ramifications.
-
- Even worse, if YOU could see the callers' numbers on calls YOU receive, you
- might be disappointed at much of what you'd see. Most big solicitation
- businesses use special outward-calls-only trunking groups; you would frequently
- see undialable numbers like 012-4161 on your display. Such info isn't going to
- do you a lot of good without a lot of hassling with telco for info (which they
- might well be unwilling to give you).
-
- And what about obscene phone calls and such? Won't this system help stop them?
- Well, maybe some dummies would get caught, but there are one hell of a lot of
- payphones out there and people could easily move from one to another
- indefinitely...
-
- The issue of privacy of callers' numbers is thus more complicated than it might
- appear at first. Some proposals call for unlisted numbers not to routinely
- display on callee displays. Some other plans propose a control prefix (e.g.
- "*21") which you could dial before dialing a phone number if you want to block
- number display for that particular call.
-
- All in all the issues involved are quite complex. The time to start thinking
- about them is now.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 3 Sep 88 13:17:29 CDT
- From: mayo@cs.wisc.edu (Bob N. Mayo @ U.W. Madison Computer Sciences)
- Subject: Re: "Pizzamation"
-
- Godfather's Pizza [phone (206) 223-1111] claims that they don't get told the
- customer's phone number. This contradicts the previous article which claims
- that they automatically receive your number, that is then used to display
- your "pizza-history".
-
- When I called them to ask about this, Godfather's claimed that they ask you
- for your phone number and then set up an "account" for you. They specifically
- stated that they do not automatically receive customer's phone numbers.
-
- Can anybody account for this discrepancy? I can think of several
- possibilities:
-
- + The previous article was in error.
- + They have discontinued this practice. (Perhaps due to poor reception
- from the public?)
- + Godfather's didn't tell me the truth.
-
- Anybody know?
- --Bob
- [Most likely the first one. PGN]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 3 Sep 88 02:08:10 EDT
- From: netxcom!ewiles@uunet.UU.NET (Edwin Wiles)
- Subject: Re: Pizzamation and FGD lines...
- Organization: NetExpress Communications, Inc., Vienna, VA
-
- On a standard telephone line, it is still difficult to 'trace a call'. In
- all probability these businesses are using what are known as "Feature Group
- D" lines; which have aprox 6 to 8 wires, as compared to the 2 to 4 wires of
- a normal telephone line.
-
- Feature Group D service is designed to tell you both the number dialed,
- and the number that is doing the dialing. The extra lines are used for
- signaling the address information.
-
- [I know whereof I speak, our company is using FGD lines, and I had to design
- a program to interface with the phone company protocols. Not easy....]
-
- Yes, personally I would like one of these lines, with a smart phone to
- block unwanted calls. However, such phones already exist, that work over
- standard phone lines, the caller simply has to punch a few more digits
- (like a PIN) to let your phone know that they are allowed to talk to you.
- The nice thing about a FGD line, is that you can reject the call without
- actually having answered it, thereby allowing the caller to avoid paying
- the phone company for a call that you'd reject anyway.
-
- Edwin Wiles, NetExpress Comm., Inc., 1953 Gallows Rd. Suite 300 Vienna, VA 22180
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat Sep 3 13:25:31 1988
- From: sun!portal!cup.portal.com!Patrick_A_Townson@unix.SRI.COM
- Subject: Automatic Number ID: Great Idea!
- [Note: This address for PAT is bogus, and does not work. Try
- "sun!portal!cup.portal.com!username"@Sun.COM or
- "sun!portal!cup.portal.com!username"@uunet.UU.NET]
-
- A recent article here by Anonymous warned of the 'dire consequences' all of
- us would face when Automatic Number Identification on a real time basis
- became a routine feature.
-
- I have to disagree, wholeheartedly. ANI will be one of the best, and most
- useful additions to telephony that I can think of.
-
- I consider an unsolicited phone call to be an invasion of my privacy. If you
- feel you have the right to call me and refuse to identify yourself, then I
- maintain I have the right to come to your front door and refuse to identify
- myself.
-
- While it is true, as Anonymous pointed out that phone solicitors and the like
- frequently work from phones with special types of circuit numbers which cannot
- be easily traced by someone with ANI, the fact remains that ANI will bring a
- virtual halt to most of the hacking and phreaking and obscene calls which
- plague many people. Yes, as Anonymous points out (an appropriate handle,
- considering the gist of his message, no?) people can move around from one
- payphone to another, endlessly, continuing to create their havoc in whatever
- form it takes, but in reality, most people will not take portable modems and
- terminals with them to the pay phone on the corner just so they can call
- someone's BBS and harass them Anonymously.
-
- Having ANI implemented will simply make it too inconvenient for most of the
- low-life scum who hide behind their telephone to continue their practices. As
- for legitimate reasons to not want your number displayed to the called party,
- I can't think of any. Again, you have to make the analogy of going to see
- someone in person. It is completely unfair and unrealistic to say that you
- have the right to disturb someone at whatever they were doing and that they
- in turn have no right to demand to know who you are.
-
- In summary, I believe you have the right to use the phone as a method of
- quick, almost instant communication with others. You do not have the right
- to use the phone as a way to remain Anonymous. Having a non-published number
- is a different matter altogether, since you are protecting yourself against
- persons who might call you. The way you protect your privacy when calling
- someone else is to *simply not make the call at all* if there is something
- which will be said which you would not want traced back to yourself.
-
- Anonymous is also making the assumption that the people who aquire your number
- via ANI will automatically abuse the information. This is mostly false.
-
- If and when ANI at the subscriber level becomes available here in Chicago, I
- will be one of the first to subscribe. And when a call is received and the
- read out shows that the person has deliberatly blocked their number from my
- view, I will probably answer the phone and state that they are welcome to call
- back making the information available, and pending that action, the present
- call is being terminated now. (click).
-
- Patrick Townson
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 6 Sep 88 13:47:33 EDT
- From: Jerome H. Saltzer <Saltzer@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>
- Subject: Automatic Number ID: Great Idea! (RISKS-7.44)
-
- In "Automatic Number ID: Great Idea!", Patrick Townson makes several
- good arguments favoring Automatic Number Identification (ANI). I
- agree that on balance ANI will be a good thing once the novelty wears
- off and people become accustomed to the new rules of the game. But
- Townson may be carrying a good argument a little too far when he
- says,
-
- > As for legitimate reasons to not want your number displayed to
- > the called party, I can't think of any.
-
- I assume that he took that somewhat polar position in order to draw
- out suggestions for legitimate reasons, so here are a couple of cases
- in which maintaining the privacy of the caller does seem to make some sense:
-
- 1. Hotlines (e.g., drug-abuse and suicide) and police
- department tip numbers depend on anonymity of the caller to
- perform a function that is usually considered to have some value
- to society. Some police departments maintain a line separate
- from 911 (which often has an ANI feature) just for this purpose.
- If the caller of a hotline knew that the calling number would be
- automatically recorded, at least some of the information that
- flows in this way would dry up, and some of the help dispensed
- this way would not be. (The technique of dialing a prefix code
- to block automatic number identification caters to this
- requirement. I doubt that many hotlines would take Townson's
- hard-nosed approach and refuse to accept a call from a
- prospective suicide who has blocked ANI.)
-
- 2. When a private party calls on a "big organization," (for
- example, making ten queries to stock trading companies about their
- commission rates in anticipation of opening one account) there is
- an understandable preference for not leaving one's number,
- simply to avoid unwanted followup calls (e.g., from hungry
- brokers). Again, the ANI-blocking prefix satisfies this
- requirement, because no hungry stockbroker is going to refuse a
- call that sounds like it comes from a promising prospect.
-
- Townson's polar position might be plausible if you assume telephones
- are answered only by private individuals. He is well-advised to
- refuse anonymous calls to his bulletin board and welcome to refuse
- them at his private phone. But I believe that the need for blocking
- ANI remains for other situations.
- Jerry
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 06 Sep 88 17:30:25 EDT
- From: Bruce O'Neel <XRBEO%VPFVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
- Subject: Re: Display of telephone numbers on receiving party's phone
-
- I much prefer using a prefix ( *21 say) only when you WANT the number
- to be known, rather than when you DO NOT want the callee to see it.
-
- bruce
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 6 Sep 88 20:28+0100
- From: C H Longmore <CCAse7-16@birmingham.ac.uk>
- Subject: Re: Telephones and Privacy
-
- Patrick Townson's article in RISKS 7.44 states:
-
- > Having ANI implemented will simply make it too inconvenient for most of the
- > low-life scum who hide behind their telephone to continue their practices.
- > As for legitimate reasons to not want your number displayed to the called
- > party, I can't think of any. Again, you have to make the analogy of going
- > to see someone in person. It is completely unfair and unrealistic to say
- > that you have the right to disturb someone at whatever they were doing and
- > that they in turn have no right to demand to know who you are.
-
- How could you apply this to a situation where [as in the UK] certain police
- forces operate systems whereby people can give information to the police
- *anonymously* by calling a device as simple as an answering machine?
-
- How could you apply it to a situation where a potential customer wishes to
- obtain a quote by phone *without* running the risk of that company using the
- information so gained to apply the hard-sell.
-
- Can you imagine someone using a confidential medical advice line (such as an
- AIDS advisory service) if there was a possibility of the call being easily
- traced?
-
- How many people would telephone up the Samaritans if their number wasn't
- confidential?
-
- In the UK these are not problems.... yet. Our current telephone network is
- not capable of supporting these features.... yet.
-
- It *should* be possible to conceal your own telephone number from the person
- you are calling.. however, it is also the right of the person receiving the
- call to refuse to communicate with anybody who does not want his/her telephone
- number revealed. The latter is easy enough to implement.... a simple
- user-settable switch on the telephone is all that is needed.
-
- The 'privacy' argument has two sides.... it is the right of an individual
- *not* to have their phone number displayed, but it is also the right of the
- individual *not* to answer anonymous calls. A problem to which the solution
- seems easy enough.... (now prove otherwise!)
-
- Conrad H Longmore
- Computer Science Dept, University of Birmingham, Birmingham B15 2TT, UK.
-
- email: CCAse7-16%multics.bham.ac.uk@cunyvm.cuny.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 6 Sep 88 22:41 MDT
- From: MCCLELLAND_G%CUBLDR@VAXF.COLORADO.EDU
- Subject: Automatic Call Tracing and 911 Emergency Numbers
-
- Our local county government just worked a deal whereby for a small fee added
- to each customer's phone bill, the county's centralized 911 emergency
- switchboard would be provided with a display of all incoming phone numbers
- and addresses. I'm rather glad that the next time I call 911 all that
- information will be communicated automatically (but I hope it will still be
- verified orally whenever possible). However, I suppose that once we pay for
- the installation of the necessary technology the local telco will be able to
- sell it as a service to other businesses. As previous notes have suggested,
- there are many privacy issues to consider here but there are benefits that
- also need to be considered as well.
- Gary McClelland
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 6 Sep 88 11:00:22 PDT
- From: Andrew Klossner <andrew%frip.gwd.tek.com@RELAY.CS.NET>
- Subject: Automatic Number ID: Bad Idea!
-
- [This discussion has gotten pretty far from RISKS.]
-
- "I consider an unsolicited phone call to be an invasion of my
- privacy. If you feel you have the right to call me and refuse
- to identify yourself, then I maintain I have the right to come
- to your front door and refuse to identify myself."
-
- This is the wrong analogy. Consider a world in which, when you wonder
- into a shop with an idle question, the shopkeeper can, without your
- permission, divine your identity. There's a world of difference
- between "Good afternoon, what's your name? If you won't tell me, get
- out" and "Good afternoon, I have recorded your name and there's nothing
- you can do about it."
- [Also remarked upon by Hugh Pritchard. PGN]
-
- "Anonymous is also making the assumption that the people who
- a[c]quire your number via ANI will automatically abuse the
- information. This is mostly false."
-
- This is a Pollyanna attitude. I have worked for telephone/junk-mail
- solicitors (in my starving student days) who would drool at the thought
- of abusing this information. As an example of privacy abuse, consider
- Radio Shack's policy of demanding full identification, even of cash
- customers, for purposes of composing a mailing list.
-
- -=- Andrew Klossner (decvax!tektronix!tekecs!andrew) [UUCP]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Sep 88 13:41:00 EDT
- From: John (J.) McHarry <MCHARRY@BNR.CA>
- Subject: Calling number delivery
-
- The telephone feature of delivering the calling number to the terminating
- line is part of a group of features called
- 'CLASS', although there are other ways it could be done in certain
- special cases. There are a number of Bellcore publications that
- describe it in some detail. Among these are TR-TSY-000031 on the
- basic feature, (TA) 000030 on the signalling between office and
- customer terminal, 000391 on the feature to block delivery of the
- calling number, 000218 on selective call reject, and (TA) 000220,
- also related to selective call reject. TAs are an early version
- of TRs. If you don't find one in a reference,look for the other.
- There are several other TRs that relate to these features, but this
- list should sate most of us.
-
- Calling number delivery, selective call reject, and calling number
- delivery blocking are all involved with the 'Signalling System 7' which is just
- beginning to be deployed amongst local exchanges, although some of the long
- distance carriers are much farther along. Among other advantages, SS7 enables
- the transfer of much more information between network nodes than was previously
- generally available. This should allow the introduction of many new network
- services in the near future. On the other hand, CLASS and calling number
- delivery in particular will not likely become common until large areas are cut
- over to SS7, since otherwise they would not work much of the time. (Only within
- the local switching office, or among those that had already implemented SS7)
-
- It looks to me like a subscriber to calling number delivery gets telemetry
- intended to allow display of the number calling concurrently with ringing. I
- suppose proper customer premise equipment could pick this off and feed it into
- a computer or use it to determine what to do with the call, eg. route to an
- answering machine only if not long distance. If the number isn't available, as
- would be the case if the originating and terminating offices were not linked by
- SS7, the telemetry sends ten 0s. If the number is available but the originator
- is blocking delivery, it sends ten 1s.
-
- Calling number delivery blocking is itself a CLASS feature that can be set
- on by a service order or, depending upon the tariffed offering, turned on or
- off on a per call basis. How it is offered, if at all, is up to the local
- telco and PUC. The TR makes it look to me like it is not available to party
- line subscribers. I think there is a technical reason for this.
-
- Selective call reject allows the subscriber to set up a list of up to N
- directory numbers (N might be on the order of 6 to 24) that would be sent to
- 'treatment' instead of ringing the subscriber's phone. A caller using blocking
- could be put on this list after one call by using a control that says, in
- effect, add the last caller to my list, but that number could not be read from
- the list by the subscriber. It doesn't look to me like the blocking code
- itself can be put on the list; maybe somebody else knows a way or has tried it.
- Call reject can be turned on or off also, and can be maintained from either a
- DTMF or dial phone.
-
- There might be something here for everybody. If I can block delivery of
- my number and Mr. Townson can send me to treatment we would be almost as well
- off as with Internet addressing from Bitnet to Portal.
-
- The foregoing opinions and interpretations are mine, not my employer's.
- My interpretations of the referenced documents are based on a cursory reading.
- They probably contain some errors.
-
- John McHarry McHarry%BNR.CA.Bitnet@wiscvm.wisc.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 08 Sep 88 16:47:11 EDT
- From: Robin j. Herbison <LADY%APLVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
- Subject: More on Automatic Call Tracing and 911 Emergency Numbers
-
- A co-worker of mine called the Police last year to report a burglar alarm in
- his neighborhood which was going off. (He lives in Baltimore County,
- Maryland.) The dispatcher received the phone number, his name and an address
- automatically.
-
- The 911 dispatcher read back the address that was displayed. It was where they
- had lived two(2!) years previously. When they moved, they kept the old phone
- number and gave the phone company his the address. Unfortunately, the change
- of address was not passed on to 911.
-
- Although it would be nice to have 911 come if you were in trouble and
- and could only lift the phone, I would like them to arrive at the
- Current address. (I know the people who live at my old address do not
- know my current address, although I assume they have a current phone
- phone book. Since I am listed, They could direct the police to my home.)
-
- Quite a waste of time, esp. in an emergency.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 8 Sep 88 08:38:42 PDT
- From: forags@violet.Berkeley.EDU
- Subject: ANI on 911 calls
-
- The Alameda County phone book has a privacy notice right below the 911 number
- which warns callers about ANI and advises them to use the regular 7-digit
- number if they don't want their number displayed on the dispatcher's console.
- -Al Stangenberger
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Sep 88 13:15:59 GMT
- From: brent%itm@gatech.edu (Brent)
- Subject: Another ANI scam (Re: RISKS-7.45)
-
- Here's another scam for ANI. Set up a free phone service:
- time and weather, point spread predictions, sports score line,
- Dow Jones business news brief. It's just a taped message someone
- can call into. Now set up a PC to capture the ANI information on
- people who call. Take the diskette of phone numbers to a service
- that offers CNA (customer name and address) and presto! You have
- yet another profiled mailing list ready to be sold to hungry marketers
- of sports equipment, business journals, etc. Where'd they get MY
- name? you ask. You'll never know.
-
- ANI is going to be big business. Just north of Atlanta is one of the new
- AT&T regional billing centers. Their goal is to fully integrate ANI with their
- customer inquiry department. So when you call 1-800 whatever, the AT&T rep
- will answer "Good morning Mr. Jones, how's the weather in Macon? I'll bet
- you're calling about that collect call to Bogota." They'll have your name,
- address, and billing info on the screen in front of them as they answer your
- call.
-
- Hmmm... try forwarding your calls to AT&T. What will happen?
-
- Brent Laminack (gatech!itm!brent)
-
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-
- Date: Thu Sep 8 17:48:01 1988
- From: sun!portal!cup.portal.com!Patrick_A_Townson@unix.SRI.COM
- Subject: ANI Response
-
- Recent correspondents in RISKS have challenged my comment 'no good reason to
- conceal telephone number'. Examples of 'good reasons' include calls to hot
- lines, counseling services, police officials, and others.
-
- Here in Illinois, the law which enabled 911 Service, and required its
- implementation in all communities in the state also required that every Police
- Department have a seven digit administrative telephone number to receive
- non-emergency calls and calls made 'in confidence' by the caller. The Chicago
- Police Department & Fire Department can be reached through the main centrex
- number for the City of Chicago Offices: 312 - PIG - 4000. To reach individual
- police officers, etc, just dial PIG and the desired 4 digit extension. And
- not that I would expect everyone to know it, but you *can* override ANI on
- 911 calls in most cases by knowing which *seven digit number* 911 is translated
- into by your local phone office. Here in Chicago it is (or was) 312-787-0000.
- Calling that number reaches 'Chicago Emergency' just as surely as 911, and
- with only a blank screen for the dispatcher to look at in return. Apparently
- when you dial 911, your central office translates it into a seven digit number
- and sends encoded information containing *your number, and address* to the
- dispatcher when it puts the call through to the ACD (automatic call
- distributor) at the police station.
-
- Since posting my original article a couple days ago, I have researched this
- a bit further and find the general thinking among folks I have contacted at
- Illinois Bell is that there will be specific exemptions in the tariff for
- calls to crisis lines, counseling services and similar where those groups will
- NOT be permitted to subscribe to ANI signaling service. And those exceptions
- mentioned by the writers here do make good sense.
-
- As for stockbrokers and others who are likely to try and make a hard sell,
- what do you do now when these people routinely ask for your phone number in
- the process of taking your order/giving information? Refuse to give it? Give
- a false number? Whatever happened to your spines? Just say NO to the broker.
- Just say no to the Operator Who Is Standing By To Take Your Call Now....
-
- Patrick Townson
-
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-
- Date: 09 Sep 88 00:30:10 EDT
- From: ROB.B%te-cad.prime.com@RELAY.CS.NET
- Subject: Proposed ANI Enhancement
-
- If digital data is going to be transmitted with phone calls, why not
- add a "classification code" (perhaps 3 digits) which may optionally be sent
- by the caller. Add to this legislation which requires all human telephone
- solicitors to send a digital class code of "001" with their calls, and all
- tape playing sales machine generated calls to carry a class code of "002".
- The phone company could then offer a "class selection" service whereby the
- subscriber could make his phone inaccessible to selected classes of calls.
-
- This is not without (manual) precedent. All companies using tape playing sales
- machines within Massachusetts are required by law to check the numbers they
- will call against a phone company maintained list of subscribers who have
- requested not to be bothered by these machines. This list must really work -
- I was on such a list and have only recently begun to recieve that form of
- harrassment, commencing right after my area code was changed from 617 to 508.
-
- Rob Boudrie
-
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-
- Date: Fri, 9 Sep 88 10:09:55 EDT
- From: philhowr@unix.cie.rpi.edu (Bob Philhower)
- Subject: ANI blocking defeats purpose
-
- It is naive to think that an ANI system with a blocking feature
- (i.e. you prepend the number you dial with something like *21 to prevent
- your own phone number from being available to the party you call) would
- have any effects on those who abuse the anonymity of the current system.
- Anyone that concerned about his/her privacy would purchase a device to
- sit on the phone line and recognize the first dialed number, delay it, and
- send *21 before it. (If these don't appear immediately, I would certainly
- market them myself.)
-
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-
- Date: Fri, 9 Sep 88 11:00:46 EDT
- From: Dave Robbins <dcr0%uranus@gte.com>
- Subject: ANI/911 Misconceptions
-
- It may be worthwhile to clear up some small misconceptions that have been
- appearing in the Automatic Number ID discussion. More than one correspondent
- has equated the 911 automatic identification with the calling-number
- identification just now becoming available to local subscribers. In fact, the
- two are entirely different features -- implemented differently and having
- nothing little more than their general behavior in common. In particular:
-
- 1) "Enhanced 911" (as it is properly called -- regular 911 is nothing
- more than an easy-to-remember and quick-to-dial number; it does not
- identify the caller) is implemented by essentially the same
- mechanism as ANI for toll calls. In both cases, the calling number
- is sent out over a trunk line, not over a local subscriber loop. As
- far as I know, this type of calling number identification has never
- been made available to businesses, as one correspondent suggested it might.
-
- 2) Calling-number-identification (there is a marketing name for this, but
- I forget it offhand) is a feature available only from the newest
- ESS and competing switches, and requires special equipment on the
- subscriber's premises as well as special hardware and software on the
- switch (and of course more money from the subscriber :-). As far as I
- know, each subscriber has the option of specifying -- permanently --
- whether or not his number will be disclosed to others via this feature;
- the default value for this option would reflect the subscriber's current
- selection of a published or non-published number. In addition, as
- mentioned by some correspondents, on a given call a subscriber may
- choose -- via a dialed prefix -- whether or not to allow the display
- of his number on the called phone.
-
- Caveat: although I do work for a "phone company" my knowledge of the
- above is not necessarily 100% accurate or up-to-date, since I have not
- been directly involved with the gory details of these particular
- technologies.
-
- RISKS relevance? My concern is twofold:
-
- 1) Confusion between two apparently similar but in fact considerably
- different systems can result in the risks of the one being *assumed*
- to be identical to the risks of the other, when in fact this is not
- the case. In the example at hand, there is no assumption of a right
- of privacy when calling 911, but there is an assumption of such a right
- when calling everyone else. These assumptions are made by the respective
- systems, reflecting what is presumed to be the same assumptions made
- by the general public. Viewing one system as though it were the other
- changes the perceived risks.
-
- 2) Much of the discussion in RISKS on this topic (and others, of course)
- is based upon incomplete information and therefore incorrect
- assumptions about the technology involved. This is, I realize, a
- general problem, and perhaps unavoidable. However, when discussing
- the risks of technology, computer or otherwise, we need to take
- particular care to base the discussion upon the facts, so that we can
- discuss the risks of the system as it actually is implemented.
-
- Dave Robbins, GTE Laboratories Incorporated, 40 Sylvan Rd., Waltham, MA 02254
-
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-
- Date: Sat, 10 Sep 88 00:25:03 EDT
- From: attcan!utzoo!henry@uunet.UU.NET
- Subject: Re: Display of telephone numbers on receiving party's phone
-
- People are missing an important issue here: there is no one-to-one
- correlation between the number you are calling from and your identity.
- In particular, it is quite possible to have situations in which a call
- is not anonymous -- in the sense that the caller has no intent to hide
- his identity -- but does not want his location known. This is also the
- underlying problem behind having phone solicitors calling from uncallable
- numbers: what you want is identity and contact information, not just the
- number used to make the call.
- Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology
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