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- Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 18:46:59 CST
- From: larry@DUCKTALES.MED.GE.COM(Larry Landwehr)
- Subject: File 1--LTES article and Gender on the Nets (Re: CuD 5.18)
-
- Some comments on the "London Times Educational Supplement"
- article
-
- Written by Larry Landwehr
-
- Overall, the "London Times Educational Supplement" article (LTES)
- had some
- interesting points to it - a little bit of net history, some
- examples of
- the growing importance of the net to the academic community, and
- some of
- the problems encountered by newcomers to the net.
-
- After you've been on the net for a while, it is easy to lose sight
- of just
- how wonderfully amazing the net is. If anything, the article
- deeply under-
- stated just how profoundly the net will change the future of
- humanity. It's
- like trying to predict back in 1910 the impact of the automobile on
- society
- - the highway system, gasoline refineries, motels instead of
- hotels, new
- dating patterns, increased social mobility, commuting to work,
- the impor-
- tance of the rubber industry, smog, drive-thru restaurants,
- mechanized war-
- fare, and on and on. The net will bring more than quantitative
- changes, it
- will bring *qualitative* changes. Things that were impossible will
- now be-
- come inevitable.
-
- The LTES article is to be commended for pointing out some of the
- new uses
- for the net, but somehow, just like in a conversation with a
- religious
- zealot, the feminist dogma just had to surface and this is where
- the arti-
- cle does a disservice to its readers. Instead of sticking to
- verifiable
- facts and projecting from that into reasonable speculation, the
- article
- wanders into the morass of attempting to apply feminist theory to
- human in-
- teraction on the net.
-
- This attempt to view and understand the nature of the net through
- the re-
- fractive, narrowly focused theology of a fringe group flaws the
- article
- very badly and it is done rather poorly as well. Facts that
- support the
- author's view point are proudly held on high. Facts that do not
- fit the
- author's world view are glossed over or not even mentioned. Even
- worse,
- the author descends to the level of denigrating those whose
- behavior the
- author does not like. Let's examine the article point by point:
-
- The author states that the majority of the people on the net are
- men, which
- is almost certainly true at this point in time. There is even an
- attempt to
- supply some evidence to support this conclusion although the
- evidence is
- somewhat anecdotal and the sampling methodology is rather skewed.
- Still, an
- attempt is made:
-
- > For these assumptions to be true, you're quite likely either to
- be a
- > member of an academic institution in a Western industrialized
- country,
- > or very well-to-do in world terms. You're also likely to be
- male. And
- > the public area of the news system bears this out. An high
- proportion
- > of messages -- over 90% in an unrepresentative sample of
- discussions
- > of physics -- comes from the USA. An even higher proportion (of
- those
- > with identifiable senders) comes from men.
-
- In the next paragraph, the author's feminist leanings start to
- show:
-
- > "Women in science worry that these 'private' network exchanges
- of
- > research results serve to reinforce the 'Old Boy Network' in
- > scientific research circles, especially given the overwhelmingly
- male
- > demographics of e-mail and news-group users," says Ruth
- Ginzberg,
- > Assistant Professor of Philosophy at Wesleyan University in the
- US.
-
- Apparently "women in science" are worried about being shut out of
- the main-
- stream of scientific communication by a cabal of scheming men.
- What's next
- - eastern bankers, the tri-lateral commission, the red menace,
- or the
- international Jewish conspiracy?
-
- Has the author ever thought that maybe some men feel more
- comfortable talk-
- ing to other men? Has the author ever thought that many men
- have esta-
- blished working relationships with other men that predate
- women's entry
- into some scientific fields? Has the author ever thought that as
- the "new
- kids on the block" that it's up to women to make the first move
- if they
- want to get involved? Or does the author assume that women should
- be wel-
- comed with open arms just because they have lately decided that
- they want
- in? Do "women in science" expect to get everything handed to
- them on a
- platter?
-
- Next the author goes on to try to explain why there are so many
- more men
- than women on the net:
-
- > Why should there be this preponderance of men? Sarah Plumeridge
- is
- > research assistant on a project to study women's use of
- computers at
- > the University of East London. She comments that "A lot of
- research
- > suggests that women prefer computing when it's for use, as a
- tool,
- > when it's not taught as an abstract science." It's clear from
- the tone
- > of messages in the public news-groups that the _boys_ see them
- as a
- > playground.
-
- Here the feminist bugle really starts to be heard. First of all,
- someone
- studying "women's use of computers" is cited as an authority.
- What!? Does
- this "expert" (research assistant) only study women's use of
- computers?
- Isn't this person (not a personal friend of the author, one
- hopes) at all
- interested in how men use computers? Is this myopic,
- hyper-specialized in-
- vestigator with a one sided interest to be considered an expert?
-
- What is especially revealing in this paragraph is the "expert's"
- derogatory
- use of the word "boy" to refer to men. The mere fact that the
- author uses
- this offensively toned quote shows how entrenched and pervasive the
- femin-
- ist dogma has become in the author's mind. Either the author
- doesn't care
- that the quote is offensive or, even worse, it may even be that the
- author
- isn't even aware that the quote is offensive. At this point the
- article
- starts to lose credibility, but an even more egregious paragraph
- soon
- follows:
-
- > There are more serious issues too. Cheris Kramerae of the
- Department
- > of Speech Communication at the University of Illinois at Urbana
- is,
- > working on the issue of sexual harassment on "the net". This
- happens
- > in very specific ways - men sending abusive messages to women,
- often
- > having obtained their electronic addresses from the electronic
- > "personals column". There is also the problem of socially
- retarded
- > students abusing the system to distribute digitized pornographic
- > images: the direct equivalent of the calendar on the workshop
- wall.
- > Kramerae concludes, however, that "Obviously it is not the
- technology
- > but the policies which are presenting particular problems for
- women."
-
- First, why is it that every expert cited is a woman? Is the author
- engaging
- in a bit of "Old Girl Networking"? Could it be that the author
- prefers to
- converse with women? Could the pot be calling the kettle black?
- Hmmmm?
-
- Now let's deal with the sexual harassment part of this paragraph.
- Frankly,
- the author's reason for bringing this up is rather unclear. Does
- the author
- contend that sexual harassment is wide spread on the net?
- Apparently not,
- because the author states that it only occurs "in very specific
- ways"; i.e.
- in response to placing a personals ad. Apparently the author's
- intent is to
- warn women that men can harass them on the net. Whether or not
- women ever
- harass men on the net is apparently of no interest to the author.
- The au-
- thor of what you are reading right now can personally attest that
- it does
- happen, but the author of the LTES article seems to only be
- concerned with
- problems that *women* face on the net.
-
- Next, the author uses the wonderfully worded phrase "socially
- retarded" to
- refer to people whose actions the author doesn't like. This is
- really out-
- standing journalism - if you don't like what someone does, then
- call them
- names. This style of writing may be understandable in a
- heat-of-the-moment
- flame, but not in what purports to be an objectively written
- article in-
- tended to educate the general public on what the net is like. Such
- personal
- bias, such a judgemental attitude is totally uncalled for.
-
- The fact is that men (or "boys", the author's preferred term) like
- to look
- at women. They always have, and they always will. Apparently this
- biologi-
- cal fact of male human nature distresses the author greatly, either
- for fe-
- minist theological reasons or because of an inherent dislike of
- the male
- sex drive. One can't help but suspect that the author would be
- greatly in
- favor of censorship to stop this affront to the author's
- sensibilities. The
- author's use of the phrase "abusing the system" and referring to
- it as a
- "problem" speaks volumes about the author's unspoken bias.
-
- The quote, "Obviously it is not the technology but the policies
- which are
- presenting particular problems for women", is plain, flat out
- wrong. The
- net has virtually no policies because it is so deeply
- decentralized. It is
- not "the policies" which are presenting particular problems for
- women. It
- is the net culture. And the net culture presents challenges (not
- "prob-
- lems") to *all* newcomers. This quote reminds me of the old
- Saturday Night
- Live skit where this guy comes on and says, "And I suppose
- you're all
- wondering how this is going to affect Al Franken." The author's
- viewpoint
- seems to be, "Now how is this going to affect women?", which is
- extremely
- self-centered.
-
- Finally, let's briefly examine the following paragraph:
-
- > Kahn's list is, then, exactly an invisible college. Given the
- vast
- > space occupied by anti-feminist men in the open news-groups
- which are
- > supposed to discuss feminism, it can only operate if it remains
- > private and by invitation.
-
- The most notable thing about this paragraph is the author's
- unspoken as-
- sumption that feminist groups can only operate if the only posts
- allowed
- are those in favor of feminism (i.e. the only good post is a
- favorable
- post). Such an attitude might be said to display a rather closed
- mind and a
- propensity toward censorship.
-
- Summary:
-
- The LTES article is anti-male. If the overwhelming majority of
- CUD's
- readers are male, then why does CUD publish articles that attack
- men?
-
- The LTES article is one of those pieces that will be seized upon
- by those
- who want to establish censorship on the net. Sexual harassment
- (why don't
- they call it "gender harassment"?) must be stopped! Men must be
- prevented
- from looking at pictures of nude women! Let's clean up the net and
- make it
- safe for women! Take back the net!
-
- It's coming folks. Censorship and governmental restrictions
- are right
- around the corner if articles such as the LTES one are
- propagated. The
- next steps will be letter writing campaigns to system
- administrators, law
- suits against companies, and new governmental laws - how
- about two
- years in prison for an improper post? It's coming.
-
- Here's a word of advice for the women on the net:
-
- If you can't stand the heat, ladies, then get out of the kitchen!
-
- Stop whining about how unfair the world is. Stop hiding behind
- paternalis-
- tic (maternalistic?) governmental laws. Stand on your own two
- feet and
- *earn* some respect!
-
- Sexual harassment on the net, with no possibility of physical
- contact, is
- nothing but another type of flame. Learn to handle it. Learn to
- give as
- good as you get.
-
- Use a little common sense and realize that much of what you think
- of as
- sexual harassment is simply unclear communication. Why do you
- think that
- "similies" have become universally adopted on the net as a
- means of
- minimizing misinterpretation?
-
- The feminist lemma that "men suppress women" should be known as
- "The Great
- Excuse".
-
- Forget the fact that men enjoy technology because they like gadgets
- and na-
- turally gravitate to the net. Forget the fact that women are late
- comers to
- this and many other fields. Forget the fact that men are naturally
- adven-
- turous and are usually in the forefront of exploration. Forget
- all these
- logical reasons. Let's just say that men are oppressive. Let's
- not talk
- about paying your dues and taking your knocks until you manage to
- ensconce
- yourself on the net. Let's not talk about getting a thick skin so
- you don't
- get blown away by the first flame that's directed at you. Let's
- blame those
- rotten, bad, insensitive men, instead.
-
- The net is a beautiful anarchy, just about the only one left on the
- face of
- the earth. Don't kill it with censorship, laws, and lawsuits.
-
- Women of the net, conduct yourselves professionally, and, over
- time, you
- will get the respect you want and will then deserve. Don't
- subscribe to
- the false religion that simple human nature can reasonably be
- ascribed to
- the pervasive misogyny of men. Don't expect immediate
- gratification as
- the feminist movement so glaringly expects (the name "NOW" is
- no coin-
- cidence).
-
- If CUD truly believes in "electronic freedom", then it should stop
- publish-
- ing articles that lay the groundwork for censorship and
- governmental res-
- trictions. Instead, it should use its editorial discretion to
- promote posi-
- tively written articles that will benefit the net and lead to its
- further
- expansion into the mainstream of human culture.
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