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- From: karttu@mits.mdata.fi (Antti Karttunen)
- Subject: PDT-11/150 & RT-11 (was Re: Spacewar, and my pile of burdens...)
- Organization: MITS, Helsinki, Finland
- Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 11:45:24 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Nov7.114524.1041@prime.mdata.fi>
- References: <9210300201.AA16019@silver.lcs.mit.edu>
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- In article <9210300201.AA16019@silver.lcs.mit.edu> <cz@silver.lcs.mit.edu> writes:
- >
- >As to the person with the PDT11: Yes, it is a PDP-11, but an interesting one.
- >Basically, what happened was DEC's terminal group wanted to build a nice
- >little terminal front end to the microVax. Well, they built 3 models. The
- >PDT11/110 was simply a 11/03 CPU in a VT100 box. The 11/130 was an 11/110
- >with 2 dectape units stuck below the monitor. The PDT11/150 was a little
- >independant PDP11 system with about 32KW of memory, an 11/03 CPU with EIS
- >/FIS (and sometimes CUS),2 RX01 floppies, and 6 serial ports. One was for
- >th console, one for the modem//link to vax, one to a printer, and the
- >other 3 were open for other terminals.
-
- No, my PDP-11/150 doesn't have EIS. MUL, DIV, ASH(C) and XOR all trap.
- (Well, I haven't checked XOR) SOB works however.
- And few days ago I noticed strange feature:
- If I use odd address on word instruction, let's say
- CLR @#2001
- then processor doesn't trap to 4 (it should, shouldn't it?) but instead
- just uses the address with bit-0 masked off, i.e. in this case the word in
- location 2000 is cleared.
-
- So, is this a hardware bug or just 'feature'?
-
- >
- >Now, the little gem runs RT11, but there is a big catch. The driver for the
- >floppy disks is not the DX controller the RX01 used. It was called the PD:
- >interface, and it was a Z80 based thingie that could read RX01's. The
- >comm ports were also wacko versions of a DZV11 (TP?:) that worked and had
- >full modem control. They were controlled by another Z80 CPU. The big bugabo
- >was that the thing was a closed bus system. There was no way to put another
- >type of disc drive on it (though I know people who tried. A RT11 system in
- >that package with a RX01//40MB Quantum 8 inch winchester and 6 ports was too
- >much for some people, but it never worked), and there was never a 11/2
- >version. Still, it is a great box to run spacewar and space invaders on,
- >and it did support the multi term option of RT11FB, so one could run
- >VTCOM and RTMON and a RT11 session on seperate monitors (good for a laugh).
-
- Huh, what are VTCOM and RTMON?
-
- >
- >Technically, DEC could have sold this as a great PC type system,
-
- Not with those drives, at least not very long...
- But I agree that if DEC had understood to develop a micro based on
- PDP-11 processor (with competent price!) we could have avoided
- that side leap to all those pissy toy-processors, 6502, Z80, etc.
- After all, CP/M is just mutilated RT-11. (And MS-DOS is mutilated
- CP/M? ;-)
-
- >but DEC being the morons they were, they only sold it as a comm controller.
- >I have heard it said that the orig writer of multicalc wanted to write it
- >on a PDT11/150, but DEC didn't think it would happen, so he went off to
- >Apple. For this reason, I keep it next to my PRO-350 as a testament to DEC's
- >lack of vision in the world...
- >
- >Times change...
- >
- >CZ
-
- Here is some log from my PDT-11/150:
-
- .SHOW ALL
-
- RT-11FB (S) V04.00
-
- Booted from PD0:RT11FB
- Resident Monitor base is 142740 (50656.)
- USR is set SWAP
- TT is set QUIET
- Indirect file abort level is ERROR
- Indirect file nesting depth is 3
-
- PDT 11/150 Processor
- 50 Cycle System Clock
-
- Device I/O time-out support
- Multi-terminal support
-
- Device Status Vector
- -------------------------------
- PD Resident
- LP Installed 200
-
- TT (Resident) = CON
- PD (Resident)
- PD0 = SY , DK , A
- PD1 = B
- MQ (Resident)
- LP
- 2 free slots
-
- Job Name Console Level State Low High Impure
- 0 RESORC 0 0 Run 000000 142676 145702
-
- Unit Owner Type WIDTH TAB CRLF FORM SCOPE SPEED
- --------------------------------------------------------
- 0 S-Console DL 80 No No No Yes N/A
- 1 Local DL 80 No Yes No No N/A
- 2 Local DL 80 No Yes No No N/A
-
-
- .
-
- Heh, I have following commands in my STARTF.COM file, so it's
- 'easier' to use after using MS-DOS:
- ASSIGN PD0: A:
- ASSIGN PD1: B:
- ASSIGN TT: CON:
-
- BTW, has anybody written device driver which would allow accessing other
- terminal lines than the current one with names? E.g. like TT0: TT1: etc.
-
- --
- Antti Karttunen / karttu@mits.mdata.fi / $B%"%s%C%F%#!!%+%k%C%H%%%M%s(J
- ++ Think positively, ota olvia, and vote YES!
-