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- From: nadja@jetsun.weitek.COM (Nadja Adolf)
- Newsgroups: talk.rape
- Subject: Re: Time to put in my 2cents worth
- Message-ID: <1992Nov12.224434.8295@jetsun.weitek.COM>
- Date: 12 Nov 92 22:44:34 GMT
- References: <1992Nov8.081428.2621@gagme.chi.il.us> <1992Nov9.215800.16771@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> <1992Nov12.012139.12326@gagme.chi.il.us>
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- In article <1992Nov12.012139.12326@gagme.chi.il.us> phantom@gagme.chi.il.us (Leif Ericksen) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov9.215800.16771@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) writes:
- >>In article <1992Nov8.081428.2621@gagme.chi.il.us> phantom@gagme.chi.il.us (Leif Ericksen) writes:
- >>>OK the marker die was a special type that needed a special light, I belive
- >>>a black light to be seen.
-
- > TRUE, guns and other items can be useful but tell me about it
- >more I have heard more about women not knowing how to use the gun, being
- >afraid to use the gun, being unable to get to the gun, after all
- >are you going to leave the office with the gun in hand until you get to your
- >'SAFE destination? like the movie 'I dont think so!'
-
- Ummm... Excuse me, but this is a little sexist. You poor stupid women,
- just can't learn how to use weapons, so we are going to protect you
- from yourselves and send you out to meet armed assailants with knives
- and guns with such tactical wonders as car keys, pencils and credit cards.
-
- > So, as it is you have weapons always at your disposel hands, head, feet,
- >knees, car keys, credit cards, pencils, etc.
-
- While the rapist has a knife or a gun. This reminds me of one of those
- silly slasher movies where the person goes outside with the car keys
- and a flashilight to face a murderer with an ax.
-
- > I have ever heard in reports was that the majority of the time
- >when a weapon knife/gun is used it ends up being used against the victim.
-
- Bull shit. In 97% of the cases where a firearm is used as defense, there
- is no rape or injury to the victim. Knives and credit cards are taken
- away because you have to get close to use them. A firearm can be used
- at several feet - and in most assaults the victim is aware there is a
- problem before physical contact. In many cases they are aware of being
- stalked and are seeking a haven at the point of confrontation.
-
- >for defense I tell use this much IT WILL NOT WORK if the person is say
- >50 feet away or closer and you have to pull it out, of a purse
- >or shoulder hoster, or if you are crazy enough to place it down the
- >front of your pants the attacker will see that and be on you before you can
- >fire a shot... ( MOST LIKELY )
-
- I suggest you buy a handbag, go to the range, and practice putting a loaded
- and ready to go semi-automatic in it (with the safety on). Practice pulling
- it out, and hitting a target at six feet. You'll be surprised how fast you'll
- get.
-
- > NOW andy I do not know about your state I think it is Cali, but
- >ass it stands in my area of Illinois if you are able to walk outside
- >with a gun in your hand for more than 10 mins without somebody seeing
- >you, calling the cops and tehn having three squads suround you with their
- >guns pointing at your head you are lucky! ALSO if you get pulled over,
- >and do have an FOI card the cops will know it shows up on their computer,
- >so they maybe antsy. Then if they decide to search your car and your items
- >and they find it you go to JAIL here.
-
- So, get rid of the stupid laws. Don't provide more poorly defended victims.
-
- I'm beginning to wonder if a better name for this group is talk.rape.technique.
-
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