home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Path: sparky!uunet!utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!sifon!charnel!psgrain!hippo!shrike.und.ac.za!pc14.superbowl.und.ac.za!spurrett
- From: spurrett@superbowl.und.ac.za (David Spurrett)
- Newsgroups: talk.philosophy.misc
- Subject: Re: DETERMINISM 2: Another `refutation.'
- Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 17:52:52 GMT
- Organization: University Of Natal (Durban)
- Lines: 26
- Message-ID: <spurrett.28.721245172@superbowl.und.ac.za>
- References: <spurrett.18.720882738@superbowl.und.ac.za> <1d9t7nINN24k@agate.berkeley.edu>
- NNTP-Posting-Host: pc14.superbowl.und.ac.za
-
- The reply from Shalizi below actually follows my `DETERMINISM 1:' posting,
- in a posting which deals with aspects of that, and `DETERMINISM 2'.
-
- In article <1d9t7nINN24k@agate.berkeley.edu> lizi@soda.berkeley.edu (Cosma Shalizi) writes:
-
- [Stuff deleted, see the `DETERMINISM 1' thread]
-
- >> Any thoughts?
- > Yes, about your "legal" argument (hit "k" by reflex, so...).
- >1. Medieval trials of animals are well-documented. (See Needham and
- > Wang, _Science and Civilisation in China_, sect. 18 or so.) Quite
- > possibly there were trials of natural processes as well - my memory
- > ain't what it used to be.
-
- You don't seem to have got the point exactly. I was well aware of the
- fact that medieval courts (and many others) tried animals, but your memory
- is not (as far as I know (certainly no anthropologist/legal historian to
- whom I have spoken has disagreed)) the issue as far as `laws of nature' or
- processes/things thought of as fully mechanical goes. The issue is simply
- that where there is thought to be no possibility for anything different
- having occured, there is no `trial' as we normally understand it.
-
- [Stuff deleted]
-
- > Cosma Rohilla Shalizi
-
-