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- From: steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson)
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- Subject: Re: Notch another one up for the Greennazis
- Message-ID: <STEINLY.92Nov12135532@topaz.ucsc.edu>
- Date: 12 Nov 92 21:55:32 GMT
- References: <1992Nov9.034442.12361@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> <JMC.92Nov8204409@SAIL.Stanford.EDU>
- <1992Nov9.145946.4373@inel.gov> <Jym.12Nov1992.0901@naughty-peahen>
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- In-reply-to: Jym Dyer's message of 12 Nov 1992 17:01:55 GMT
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- In article <Jym.12Nov1992.0901@naughty-peahen> Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu> writes:
-
- >> They tried to get between the plutonium ship and its escort,
- >> got bumped and accused the Japanese of brutality or something
- >> like that. I assume the reporters on Greenpeace boat will
- >> tell the story the Greenpeace way.
-
- ...
-
- =/= Greenpeace's version of events is that the Shikishima has
- been bullying the Greenpeace ship (the SOLO) during the voyage.
- The collision occurred when the Shikishima *rammed* the SOLO.
-
- The reports here were that the Japanese ship sustained damage
- to the right side of its helideck, that would be at the back
- of the ship - suggesting the bow of the Solo hit the rear of
- the Shikishama - I don't suppose anyone filmed the incident?
- Has the Shikishima returned to harbour or are there pictures of
- the damage to the respective ships?
-
- > Let's try to remember that [there] are international rules
- > governing the safe navigation on the open and coastal seas.
- > A ship cannot just go willy-nilly anywhere it wants to travel.
- > Who ever was in charge on each ship must know and understand
- > this. It is something that Greenpeace has convienently
- > overlooked in the past because "their protest is above
- > international law" type of attitude.
-
- =/= Oh? Can you give any examples of this that might be germane
-
- I have no idea what actually happened and would not be surprised
- if the Japanese had orders to get the Solo away, or if the Solo
- had bumped the Japanese ship. It is however possible to take a
- course on which either ship has legal right of way but which
- guarantees a collision, in particular (if I remember the rules
- right...) if the Japanese ship is to the left of the Solo and
- turns right across the Solo's bow it has right of way, this could
- also lead to the Solo's bow hitting the Japanese ship on the right
- side to the rear if the Solo didn't (or couldn't) maneuver away fast
- enough, if done right the ship with right of way can turn sharply
- enough to hit the other ship square on the side with its bow,
- which would be a case of ramming - albeit legal! Letting the other
- ship ram your stern is clumsy and dangerous, it is more likely to lead
- to your own ship being disabled.
-
- Any reason why the Solo would not stand off if requested to by
- the Japanese? If they go far enough away the escort has to back off
- or it loses sight of its escortee!
-
- * Steinn Sigurdsson Lick Observatory *
- * steinly@lick.ucsc.edu "standard disclaimer" *
- * Just because there's a reason *
- * Doesn't mean it's understood Specials, 1979 *
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