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- From: chall@eco.twg.com (Charles Hall)
- Subject: Re: Quote from John Calvin (1509-1564)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov11.220036.20014@eco.twg.com>
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- Organization: The Wollongong Group (East Coast Operations)
- References: <1992Nov11.044552.28091@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
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- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 22:00:36 GMT
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- In <1992Nov11.044552.28091@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> brian@lpl.arizona.edu (Brian Ceccarelli 602/621-9615) writes:
-
- >"The fetus, though enclosed in the womb of its mother, is already
- >a human being and it is a most monstrous crime to rob it of the
- >life which it has not yet begun to enjoy. If it seems more
- >horrible to kill a man in his own house than in a field, because
- >a man's house is his place of most secure refuge, it ought surely
- >to be deemed more atrocious to destroy a fetus in the womb before
- >it has come to light."
-
- But what if it's one of those new-fangled "smart" houses, and the
- man is doing structural damage to it, and the house doesn't want
- him there?
-
- I'm not altogether sure what you hope to accomplish with this line
- of argument, anyway. All you've really established is that four
- famous dead people opposed abortion. If I felt like it, I could
- easily produce quotes from four equally famous and equally dead
- people who supported abortion-rights, but what would be the point?
- These quotes raise as many questions as they answer, and Mr. Calvin
- isn't alive to tell us what he meant.
-
- That being the case, all I can do is ask you to clarify your views:
- Am I right in assuming that you believe that killing a zygote is
- just as bad as killing an adult? If that is the case, do you
- believe that women who obtain abortions are guilty of conspiracy
- to commit premeditated murder, and that they should be punished
- accordingly? Are there any cases where you think abortion should
- be allowed?
-
- For whatever reason, most of the pro-lifers that turn up here are
- either unable or unwilling to answer these questions. My respect
- for you will greatly increase if you take a stab at responding
- to them.
-
-