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- From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
- Subject: Re: Keegan excludes anyone from being prochoice if they support restrictions on abortion
- Message-ID: <1992Nov10.175709.3788@rotag.mi.org>
- Organization: Who, me???
- References: <LABACH.92Nov6121215@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca> <1992Nov7.041109.18976@rotag.mi.org> <LABACH.92Nov9085511@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca>
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:57:09 GMT
- Lines: 46
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- In article <LABACH.92Nov9085511@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca> labach@acs.ucalgary.ca (Terence Michael Labach) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov7.041109.18976@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org
- >(Kevin Darcy) writes:
- >> In article <LABACH.92Nov6121215@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca>
- >> labach@acs.ucalgary.ca (Terence Michael Labach) writes:
- >
- > [a bunch of stuff that we generally agree on, deleted]
- >
- >> >...a statist dipstick
- >> >like you who wants the law to force women to become birthing machines
- >> >can only make claims about others being "fascist control freaks" in the
- >> >most ironic of senses.
- >>
- >> What about the pro-choicers who have criticized Keegie for exactly the
- >> same behavior (albeit not quite with as much passion as Doug has here)?
- >> Does our criticism qualify us as "fascist control freaks" too?
- >
- >Hmm, I guess I don't read t.a often enough. I thought you were an
- >anti-choicer...
-
- *THIS* is the reason I keep the heat up, Mr. Labach. You see, for every
- "regular" reader who sees Keegan's constant stream of lies and deliberate
- mischaracterizations of his "target du jour"s opinions, who just wades
- through his posts thinking to himself or herself "Oh, Keegan's just being an
- asshole again", there are probably 2 or 3 NON-regular readers, such as
- yourself, who might read the same crap, and actually BELIEVE it. Case in
- point: I am not an anti-choicer. I support no abortion restrictions. Yet
- Keegan (and Susie Garvin, and a handful of others) continually insist that I
- *DO*, in fact, in some contrived and apparently inarticulable way, support
- at least one (unspecified) abortion restriction. Am I right in assuming that
- these falsehoods led, at least in part, to your conclusion that I was an
- anti-choicer? Now perhaps you see why I feel the need to constantly attack
- and refute their statements. I would rather risk bringing flames into this
- group, than for the truth to be sacrificed to a screechy, lying little brat
- like that.
-
- >I classify those who want to force people to use their
- >bodies in undesired ways as "fascist control freaks". That would
- >include murderers, muggers, rapists, generals, and anti-choicers.
-
- I consider Keegan et al. to be "anti-choice" wrt the meta-issue of, within
- a certain range of views on abortion, letting people call themselves whatever
- they want. "Fascist control freak" is perhaps an unwarranted exaggeration,
- but the "control" aspect of their behavior _is_ present, IMO...
-
- - Kevin
-