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- From: kauff@neit.cgd.ucar.edu (Brian Kauffman)
- Subject: Re: Pro-Choice Criteria for Personhood
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- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:53:25 GMT
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- > = kauff@neit.cgd.ucar.edu (Brian Kauffman) writes:
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- >*Obviously* there will always be some areas of contention wrt to what
- >constitutes a "person", but I think it's useful to narrow down the points
- >of disagreement. Is anyone interested in doing this? Or are we only
- >interested in wholesale acceptance/rejection of other people's ideas?
- >
- >To that end, I challenge you to provide concise answers to the following:
-
- I'd like to think the statement "all people should be treated equally"
- is intuitively true, but this is based on some intuitive notion of "person".
- (It's also based on some intuitive notion of "equally")
- So what is my notion of "person"? To make my opinions clear...
-
- > Q1: Do you agree that the physical presence of a brain is necessary,
- > although perhaps not sufficient, for "personhood"? <yes xor no>
- YES.
-
- > Q2: (I'm trying to establish that we agree that "persons" actually exist)
- > Do you agree that being a "normal, adult human" is sufficient, although
- > perhaps not necessary, to establish "personhood"? <yes xor no>
- YES.
-
- > Q3: Do you agree that being a "normal, human infant" is sufficient, although
- > perhaps not necessary, to establish "personhood"? <yes xor no>
- YES.
-
- Hence, using only the above answers as premises:
- 1) I don't consider an early term fetus to be a "person" and so it's NOT
- "intuitively true" that early term fetus' should be treated the same as
- "persons". (Note: this does not imply they have no value, etc)
- 2) I do consider an infant to be a "person" (barring some abnormal
- physical conditions), and so it IS clear that infants should be
- treated as "persons".
-
- -Brian
-