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- Date: Friday, 6 Nov 1992 17:58:56 EST
- From: Linda Birmingham <ADMN8647@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
- Message-ID: <92311.175856ADMN8647@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Dirty Laundry (was Re: supporting allegations)
- Lines: 92
-
- In article <1992Nov2.032636.29543@rotag.mi.org> Kevin Darcy says:
- >In article <92305.065719ADMN8647@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> Linda Birmingham writes:
- >>In article<1992Oct25.235140.24530@midway.uchicago.edu>e elizabeth bartley says
- >>>In article <92297.173453ADMN8647@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> Linda Birmingham writes:
- >>>>In <1992Oct20.184633.12546@midway.uchicago.edu> e elizabeth bartley writes:
- >>>
- >>>>>That way, my KILLfile will catch all of Keegan's harrassment and I
- >>>>>won't have to see it. It then won't bother me so you should be happy.
- >>>>>Keegan can continue needling me and believing he's making me look like
- >>>>>a hypocrite so *he* can be happy.
- >>>
- >>>>Oh I don't think you need Mr. Keegan to make you look
- >>>>like a hypocrite, Ms. Bartley. IMHO, a post such as
- >>>>this does that all on its own.
- >>>
- >>>Why? Because I don't think Doug has much standing to object to Keegan
- >>>harassing me if Keegan harassing me doesn't bother me?
- >>
- >>No. Because you frequently describe the behaviour of
- >>Mr. Keegan while stating you have not read his posts
- >
- >Ever hear of second-hand quotes, Ms. Birmingham? Killfiles are FAR from a
- >perfect mechanism.
-
- Mr. Darcy are you suggesting one should base their
- opinion of someone on "second-hand quotes"?
- Are you suggesting that I should have based my
- opinions of you only on what I saw written by,
- say, Trish O Tuama or DAC or Susan Garvin, perhaps?
-
- >>...and
- >>define his choice of responding to your publicly posted
- >>statements in this newsgroup as harassment.
- >
- >Since Ms. Bartley is highly unlikely to respond to any given attack of his,
- >we can reasonably assume that his purpose isn't constructive dialogue, right,
- >Ms. Birmingham? And if not constructive dialogue, is "harrassment" such an
- >implausible second choice?
-
- Are you suggesting that a post in a newsgroup can only
- be responded to those addressed in the header? Here
- I thought a public post was, well, public and that anyone
- was permitted to respond? Are you harassing Ms. Garvin
- when you follow up one of her posts after she said she
- she won't respond to you?
-
- >>The latter
- >>being, imho, merely a variation on the theme of declaring
- >>abortion related questions in t.a to be flames.
- >
- >Just because a question is "abortion related" [sic] doesn't mean it can't
- >still be inflammatory, Ms. Birmingham. Surely even you with your overriding
- >biases and your severely-limited powers of reading comprehension don't
- >actually believe that the two are mutually exclusive (?).
-
- It would depend I presume on how one defines a flame.
- I define a flame as "Kebbie you are a scum sucking slime
- whose own mother would abort you today given half a chance".
- I do not define a flame as "I thought you were prochoice?"
-
- >If anything, I'd expect a abortion-related question to be MORE inflammatory
- >than the average...
-
- So what you are saying is that every post to t.a is a flame?
-
- >>>Pro-Choice Anti-Roe - E. Elizabeth
- >Bartley
- >>
- >>You do realize, don't you, that there is not a single
- >>prochoice organization that supports imprisonment
- >>for those who obtain restricted abortions?
- >
- >But it has yet to be proven that a single "prochoice" [sic] organization
- >exists which would disassociate itself from Ms. Bartley or anyone with similar
- >views
-
- Name one pro-choice organization that wants or even supports
- jailing women for obtaining banned abortions?
-
- Nor dear boy, has anyone stated Ms. Bartley would be
- disassociated from anything. What has been said is
- no pro-choice organization would agree with her stated
- desire to criminalize abortion.
-
-
-
- Linda
- --
- Polls show that the majority of Canadians believe that abortion
- is a private matter between a woman and her doctor and are,
- therefore pro-choice.
- Abortion in Law and History: The pro-choice perspective, 1990
-