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- From: parker@eehp3 (Robert Scott Parker)
- Subject: Re: Men and Abortion
- References: <1992Oct24.012303.1987@zooid.guild.org> <nyikos.720309030@milo.math.scarolina.edu> <Bx5wtu.Guw@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <1992Nov4.142327.27388@news.nd.edu>
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- Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:41:41 GMT
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- slarsen@berlin.helios.nd.edu (susan larsen) writes:
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- >In article <Bx5wtu.Guw@news.cso.uiuc.edu> parker@ehsn17.cen.uiuc.edu () writes:
- >>nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
- >>
- >>>In <1992Oct24.012303.1987@zooid.guild.org> Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org> writes:
- >>
- >>>>Steve Novak writes...
- >>>>SN> venture that Steeves' "deeply felt agony" is misplaced and unwarranted -
- >>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >>>>SN> unless you wanna start sanctifying the fetus again.
- >>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >>
- >>>>Try telling that to a couple who suffered a miscarriage. Do you also deny
- >>>>*their* agony at their loss? And what about a single woman who *does* want
- >>>>the child - will you tell her that she's out to lunch and that *her* deeply
- >>>>felt agony is misplaced and unwarranted because it amounts to "sanctifying
- >>>>the foetus"?
- >>
- >>>Excellent point, Will. Whole books have been written on the subject of the
- >>>loss felt in miscarriage.
- >>
- >>No, it's a lousy point. A couple who has "suffered" a miscarriage *wanted*
- >>that child (I assume, otherwise they won't have "suffered" so much). I
- >>certainly sympathize with their loss. It is about as painful to lose a child
- >>that you wanted to have as it is to lose a child you have already had.
-
- >It's a point that emphasizes the variety of responses to human reproduction:
- >Just like the sex act can be a most wonderful expression of love, commitment,
- >and joy; the exact same sex act, as practiced by a rapist, brings pain,
- >devastation, fear and hatred. One woman's most anticipated and beloved
- >pregnancy is another woman's deepest fear. One man longs to see his
- >expression of love take the form of a child; another man will quail at the
- >thought of enslavement to mother and child for 18 years.
-
- *THAT* is a good point. 8-)
-
- [Some other good points deleted...]
-
- >Sue Larsen
- >slarsen@berlin.helios.nd.edu
-
- -Rob
-