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- From: andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Andrew Hackard)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: TOO YOUNG TO CHOOSE
- Summary: Preventative medicine, once again
- Message-ID: <83124@ut-emx.uucp>
- Date: 6 Nov 92 03:00:32 GMT
- References: <1992Nov2.032453.22172@netcom.com> <1992Nov2.164126.9374@ncsu.edu>
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- Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
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- jjprice@eos.ncsu.edu (JEFFREY JAMES PRICE) writes:
- >Preventing illness- I am a firm beiliever in preventative medicine. You
- > should treat the problem before it arrises.Example- use birth control
- > so you don't get pregnant.
- >Avoid injury & hazards of pregnancy- See above statement concerning
- > preventative medicine
-
- Fine. But preventative medicine isn't 100% effective either. A man in
- his 30's, who eats well, runs three miles, five times a week, and generally
- does everything the American Heart Association recommends can STILL get a
- heart attack. I doubt you'd argue that we should let him die because, well,
- he asked for the heart attack.
-
- What makes abortion different, and why do you bring up the preventative
- medicine argument if it IS different? (Birth control as medicine?)
-
- >Of course Ray! I am all for allowing women the same opportunities as men
- > and offering men the same opportunities as women. I'd love equal rights.
- > Unfortunately nature didn't plan it like we wnat it.
-
- Nature didn't design men and women along the same blueprint. Women have
- the ability to bear children, something men do not (as yet) have the
- capability to do. So why should men get an equal say in what happens to
- the pregnancy when he doesn't bear an equal burden?
-
- Jeff, a phrase you're likely to see bandied about in this group is "the
- right to bodily autonomy". At its core, it paraphrases Oliver Wendell
- Holmes's famous comment, "The right to swing my fist stops where the
- other guy's nose begins." In other words, what someone does with his own
- body is his own business, and what someone does with HER own body is HER
- own business. (Presuming, of course, that it doesn't injure other persons.)
-
- Now, that paren up there is the crux of the argument: Is the fetus a person?
- I say no, you say yes, and we both have our reasons for it. Does this make
- me a sinful heathen? I hope not. (Well, not by itself, anyway... ;-) )
- Does it make you a women-enslaving MCP? No -- though you might want to
- think about the woman's role in all this.
-
- --
- --Andrew Hackard If I spoke for UT, this post
- andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu would make even less sense.
-