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- From: mtxinu!sybase!tim@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Tim Wood)
- Newsgroups: sci.virtual-worlds
- Subject: Re: JOBS: Salaries...
- Message-ID: <1992Nov11.035409.17113@u.washington.edu>
- Date: 9 Nov 92 22:23:24 GMT
- Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov11.035409.17113
- References: <1992Oct13.045324.21462@u.washington.edu>
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- In article <1992Oct13.045324.21462@u.washington.edu> CURTISJ@ruakura.cri.nz (Joh
- n Curtis, Hort+Research CRI, Hamilton, NZ) writes:
- >
- >One of my major gripes with the "marketplace" is programmers receiving (as was
- >previously stated):
- >
- >>>REAL WORLD SALARIES:
- >>>Software Engineers/Programmers: 30K - 75K
- >>>Systems/Network Engineers: 30K - 55K
- >
- >when salespeople are getting easily up to three times that amount simply
- >because they are the ones directly generating cash.
-
- Really. Some nerve. What's money when you're trying to run a business
- anyway?
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- >In my experience many of
- >these salespeople fail to keep up with the play. When entering the business
- >they may have known all the technology inside out, but quickly become puppets
- >of their parent companies and cease to recommend solutions to their clients
- >that incorporate new technologies.
- >
- >I can sense myself getting into trouble here, as this is a broad generalisation
- >but nevertheless one I find to be predominantly true. (Can you tell I'm a
- >programmer?)
-
- At least you recognize the narrowness of your viewpoint. VR will continue
- to be a research toy (just like relational databases were :) until there
- exist capable business entities with depth of ability in all the major
- business areas: R&D, marketing, sales, operations, finance, customer service,
- etc. As for educating salespeople, an enlightened company will view that
- as a necessary investment in selling effectiveness. Cost of sales is
- a big item; anything that increases return on that cost bears looking at.
- Companies that don't address customer needs whether or not they have a
- current product which answers that need lose sight of the whole point,
- which is to attract and retain customers, not move whatever's on the price
- list.
- Thanks,
- -Tim
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