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- From: atmtjkv@vax.oxford.ac.uk
- Newsgroups: sci.space
- Subject: Re: Man in space ... )
- Message-ID: <1992Nov7.153032.9998@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
- Date: 7 Nov 92 15:30:32 GMT
- References: <720944603snx@osea.demon.co.uk>
- Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620
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- In article <720944603snx@osea.demon.co.uk>, andy@osea.demon.co.uk (Andrew Haveland-Robinson) writes:
- >
- > In article <1992Nov4.093438.1@fnalo.fnal.gov> you write:
- >
- >>In article <720796989snx@osea.demon.co.uk>, andy@osea.demon.co.uk (Andrew> Haveland-Robinson) writes:
- >>>
- >>> In article <13335@ecs.soton.ac.uk> nf@ecs.soton.ac.uk writes:
- >>>> What will happen if the space suite of an austronaut gets ripped in space> ?
- >>>
- >>
- >>Ever put your hand up against the nozzle of vacuum cleaner? Your skin
- >>will hold about 1 atmosphere pressure nicely.
- >>
- >>The reason I'm writing, instead of just allowing the discussion to
- >>peter out, is to mention that a suggestion of Hermann Oberth's:
- >>Astronauts might wear spacesuits without gloves for delicate work!
- >
- > !!
- >
- > Ah well... I stand corrected... Thanks for the explanation, it still
- > sounds like a horrible way to go...
- >
- > I suppose after further thought, if one doesn't notice the 7psi or so at
- > 35,000ft in an aircraft, 0 psi isn't going to make that much difference.
- >
- > The key is the uniformity of pressure - a vacuum cleaner could cause a
- > slight bruise in time, but that's because of the 15 psi air pressure trying
- > to squeeze you into the tube! Reduce the outside pressure, and reduce the
- > apparent suction.
- >
- --
- Anyone who thinks you get 15psi of `suck' from a vacuum cleaner is
- seriously in error. A typical reduction in pressure (nozzle to atmosphere)
- is about 2--4 inches of water: remember that one atmosphere is 32 feet of water
- approximately. You need a much larger diameter, and a much larger rotation
- speed, to get a bigger pressure difference from a centrifugal pump for air,
- as the density is so low. To get a decent vacuum from something
- of a similar size you need a displacement-type pump (i.e. one with valves,
- such as a diaphragm or rotary vane pump).
-
- You can certainly plug up a hole about 1/4" diameter with your finger for at least
- a minute -- I've done it (got a leak rate of about 10^-8 mb l/s) , but I wouldn't
- advise trying a larger area for a long time as the skin isn't sufficiently
- rigid. I do remember a story of someone trying -- he was in
- hospital for a long time.
-
- Tim Kingsmill-Vellacott
- Atmospheric, Oceanic and Planetary Physics
- University of Oxford, UK.
- tjkv@atm.ox.ac.uk preferred
-