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- From: ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata - FSO)
- Subject: Re: Off Topic Topic
- Message-ID: <1992Nov11.030313.1820@hfsi.uucp>
- Keywords: maytag_repairmen?
- Organization: HFS, Inc., McLean VA
- References: <n0d99t@ofa123.fidonet.org> <1992Nov8.033306.18807@hfsi.uucp> <1992Nov9.164444.9627@walter.bellcore.com>
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:03:13 GMT
- Lines: 58
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- In article <1992Nov9.164444.9627@walter.bellcore.com> kenl@origami.cc.bellcore.com (Ken Lehner) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov8.033306.18807@hfsi.uucp>, ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata - FSO) writes:
- >|> In article <n0d99t@ofa123.fidonet.org> David.Rice@ofa123.fidonet.org writes:
- >|>
- >|> >DR> I do not consider Christians my enemy. I do, though,
- >|> >DR> consider Christianity my enemy. A greater evil one
- >|> >DR> would be hard pressed to find.
- >|> >
- >|> >This is why Christianity so loves perverting sexuality, and
- >|> >making it something dirty and evil: they say that sex outside
- >|> >of marriage is "a sin," yet what if someone doesn't want to
- >|> >be married? Or is already married elsewhere? This guilt results
- >|> >in repression, which can cause a great deal of harm by being
- >|> >expressed in negative forms---- forms which in turn the individual
- >|> >is made to feel guilty about!
- >|>
- >|> You have made the case for seeing Christianity as perverting
- >|> sexuality. May I present an alternate viewpoint? Let us say that
- >|> I buy something like a dishwasher. With it comes an instruction
- >|> manual that tells me how to load it, tips for arranging the dishes
- >|> in an optimum way for cleaning, which settings to use and under
- >|> what circumstances, etc. Now I can look at the instruction manual
- >|> and say, "This is just a bunch of meaningless regulation, I do not
- >|> want to be confined by it" and proceed to operate the dishwasher
- >|> in a manner contrary to the instruction mannual. At best, the
- >|> dishes won't come out very clean, at worst I could break the
- >|> dishwasher. And who was to blame?
- >|>
- >|> Now Christianity sees human sexuality as a gift from God with the
- >|> purposes of procreation and the expression of love between a man
- >|> and woman. It also includes a set of guidelines. I suggest that
- >|> one shouldn't look at the guidelines as inhibiting natural or
- >|> creative behaviour, but as instructions for making the full use of
- >|> this precious gift of God. Taken in that light, it does not seem
- >|> as threatening or unnatural.
- >|>
- >
- >(Hey, I'm disagreeing with the validity of his argument. Does that allow
- >me to continue this thread in sci.skeptic?)
- >
- >Oh, please. I see a major problem with your argument; namely, you assume
- >that the Christian description of and guidelines for human sexuality are
- >like the dishwasher's instruction manual, in that each came from the
- >manufacturer. As far as I know, humans have not been given an instruction
- >manual; rather, we've been given the tools (our brain, our senses, etc.)
- >to figure out how it works ourselves. A better analogy would be to use a
- >dishwasher instruction manual written by your favorite religious leader.
- >I'd rather investigate how the dishwasher works, try some experiments
- >(carefully, of course), talk to others who've had dishwashers and had
- >success with them, and see what best works for me.
-
- It certainly is a Christian belief that God is the manufacturer. It is also
- the belief that the "instruction manual" came from Him.
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