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- From: markrose@spss.com (Mark Rosenfelder)
- Subject: Re: Religion & Physics Don't Mix
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- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:57:50 GMT
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- In article <74353@hydra.gatech.EDU> cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd) writes:
-
- (a very thoughtful article, with which I have only a few quibbles:)
-
- >When a person is thinking scientifically that is what I will call "rational
- >mode". In this mode of thought, the sole object is to acquire the truth.
- >What do we mean by "truth"? An assertion is judged "true" if it accurately
- >reflects the nature of reality. How do we decide if a statement is true?
- >We devise an empirical test and let reality tell us if the statement is
- >accurate.
- >
- >Religious thought is typified by "mystical mode". In this mode of thought,
- >it is recognized that there exists a level of "truth" or "reality" to which
- >mere rational thought does not have access. Mystical thought acquires
- >"truth" through revelations of various sorts. The fundamental "truths" of
- >religion are not subject to empirical verification because they are defined
- >in a manner which precludes even the possibility of such testing.
-
- I think this explanation is itself unnecessarily mystical, or at least
- mystifying.
-
- There's nothing hard to understand, and nothing particularly religious,
- about faith. Most of you probably believe that your Significant Other
- isn't cheating on you. Why? Have you engaged private detectives? Have
- you designed double-blind experiments to test your hypothesis? No; you
- just trust them, and recognize that this kind of personal trust, rather than
- scientific skepticism, is what's called for in a relationship.
-
- Religion simply asks for this kind of trust in one's god.
-
- >On the other hand, honest theologians admit that God cannot be found through
- >the use of reason. A "leap of faith" is required to believe in God. The
- >act of taking this leap is mystical by definition, and cannot be rationally
- >justified.
-
- Not all would agree. In Catholic theology, for instance, it is asserted
- that the existence of God can be proved by reason alone. But "belief" in
- God is generally taken to require not just an acceptance of his existence,
- but trust and allegiance, and this is what cannot be based on reason alone.
-