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- From: sichase@csa1.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: No big crunch?
- Date: 6 Nov 1992 12:16 PST
- Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
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- In article <1992Nov6.020022.29066@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass) writes...
-
- > How can one make definitive statements about GUT's *requiring*
- > new massive particles without there existing a tenable GUT?
- > After all, I am reasonably sure that there are infinite possible
- > theories that do not require new particles. In fact, there are
- > probably potential GUTs that do not even use the concept of particles.
- > I am not so confident as to the suitability nor the uniqueness of
- > our representations as you appear to be.
-
- Every GUT in the standard panoply of GUT's requires new heavy particles.
- One of the nice things about the simplest GUT, SU(5), is that it requires
- no new fermions, just a few very heavy IVBs to mediate lepton-quark
- transformations. For more complicated choices of gauge group you start
- getting all sorts of wierd "extraneous" particles, none of which have ever
- been seen.
-
- The speculation that some future hypothetical "GUT" might not even use the
- notion of particles is is totally groundless, and not useful. Anything
- is possible. So what? You have to use the clues you have. Every theory
- we try to build which extends the SM in what seems to be a natural way
- inevitably includes additional particles. Sometimes we discover these
- particles, and someone becomes famous. More often, they just fade away.
-
- And what exactly do you mean by "tenable"? There are plenty of GUT choices
- which are consistent with all the available data. (Of course, there is
- little available data.)
-
- -Scott
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- Scott I. Chase "It is not a simple life to be a single cell,
- SICHASE@CSA2.LBL.GOV although I have no right to say so, having
- been a single cell so long ago myself that I
- have no memory at all of that stage of my
- life." - Lewis Thomas
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