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- From: matt@physics2.berkeley.edu (Matt Austern)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: No big crunch?
- Followup-To: sci.physics
- Date: 5 Nov 92 10:24:23
- Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory (Theoretical Physics Group)
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- In-reply-to: ted@physics1's message of 4 Nov 1992 01:22:47 GMT
-
- In article <1d78l7INNhu2@agate.berkeley.edu> ted@physics1 (Emory F. Bunn) writes:
-
- > I believe that the effect Matt is referring to is the following:
- > If you measure the orbital speeds of objects in our galaxy, and
- > use the laws of mechanics to determine the amount of matter in the
- > galaxy, you find a need for some dark matter. If you do a similar
- > experiment over a larger distance scale, say by measuring the orbital
- > properties of a pair of binary galaxies, you need an even larger
- > density of dark matter. If you keep going to still larger scales,
- > you find an even greater required density.
-
- Yes, that's more or less what I meant.
-
- I just want to emphasize something that maybe I didn't stress enough
- in my original post: these measurements are difficult. In particular,
- these largest-scale measurements involve analyzing the motion of
- galactic clusters, picking out that part of the motion that doesn't
- seem to be from the overall expansion of the universe, deducing what
- the concentrations of matter might be that would produce those motions
- (this is done with rather complicated numerical programs), and then
- comparing it to the visible matter that we see in the galaxies.
-
- There's an enormous potential for error here. In other words: I think
- that this trend (more dark matter at larger scales) is interesting,
- but shouldn't necessarily be taken seriously until we have a better
- idea of how to control these uncertainties.
-
-
- --
- Matthew Austern Just keep yelling until you attract a
- (510) 644-2618 crowd, then a constituency, a movement, a
- austern@lbl.bitnet faction, an army! If you don't have any
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