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- From: platt@watson.ibm.com (Daniel E. Platt)
- Subject: Re: Relatives with Crackpot Proofs
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- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:40:53 GMT
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- In article <2105@celia.UUCP>, keith@celia.UUCP (Keith Goldfarb) writes:
- |> Does anybody have any good suggestions about how to deal with
- |> crackpot "proof"s from relatives and friends? A relative of
- |> mine cornered me at a party recently and gave me a copy of
- |> his "proof" of FLT. He'd like me to give him some feedback.
- |> I told him that he should just mail away a few copies to some
- |> real experts (trying my hardest to get out of it) and he said
- |> that he had done that, but he wanted my feedback as well.
- |>
- |> Of course, his document had no value at all, it was a classic
- |> case of a crackpot proof as we've all see them. Now, I don't
- |> want to start another discussion about crackpot proofs in general,
- |> but rather what should be done when the person pushing the proof
- |> is personally known, and known well. When I next see this guy,
- |> he's going to ask me what I thought, and I really don't know how
- |> I should deal with it.
- |>
- |> Maybe Dear Abby would have some suggestions?
-
- Reminds me of a situation like that I was in. A friend was very
- stubborn about having a trisection construction. I pointed out
- that the general reason you cannot trisect an angle was that
- it required a cube root somewhere (the cos(theta) is a cubic
- in cos(theta/3)), and you can only get square roots at most
- out of a straight-edge and compass (you can get itterative
- square-roots as well... what I've seen described as a 'surd'
- field ['surd' is the name of the square-root radical sign]).
- That wasn't good enough. I then went on and calculated the
- actual angles for him, and showed him explicitly that they
- had not trisected the angle. That didn't work either. He
- has since gone onto graduate school in mathematics.... I wouldn't
- have thought he had the real disposition for it given his
- stubborness in being wrong, and not being interested in how
- the actual arguments for trisection worked.
-
- I think it depends on your relative. Some people will hear it,
- some people won't. If they won't, it doesn't much matter what
- you say.
-
- Dan
-
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