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- From: bhill@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert S. Hill)
- Subject: Re: Is Math Hard?
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- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:43:00 GMT
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- In article <ccDyTB3w164w@allen.com>,
- carolyn@allen.com (Carolyn Allen) writes...
- [previous poster writes...]
- >> (P. S. I'm not complaining... I like Michigan State. I am,
- >> however, rather jaded from the years of school for which I have nothing
- >> useful to show. Also, while I haven't done disastrously, my grades
- >> here don't reflect my ability well because my high school did NOTHING
- >> to teach me the study skills I would need here, so I am trying to
- >> teach myself, as usual.)
- >
- >....excuse me, but what class is supposed to teach you study skills? I
- >thought every kid knows how to learn, some better than others, but if a
- >child learns to talk, walk and potty in the right place, that child has
- >study skills.
-
- [ Carolyn, you obviously mean well and want to help, but I'm going to
- flame your statements on this one, because they really touch a nerve
- with me. Please put on your asbestos suit, and be assured that I mean
- nothing personal. Also, sorry about the length.
-
- Flame on: ]
-
- Excuse me, but this assertion is false. Study skills don't come
- naturally at all. A personal example I remember from my college days is
- the ability to write a 20-30 page research paper from secondary sources.
- That is a very complex skill requiring types of organization, analysis,
- and synthesis more sophisticated than writing a commentary essay on a
- primary source -- which was the only kind of writing I had done before
- college. Believe me, it hurt my performance tremendously. Saying study
- skills come from motivation is like saying musical skills come from
- motivation. If you haven't had the practice, and you're out on stage,
- it's a nightmare, and no amount of motivation will help. There is,
- basically, NO MORE TIME for finger exercises when you're in a
- half-decent college, as I was lucky to be (and I do mean lucky--
- gratitude in abundance here!).
-
- Sure, if you are in that unpleasant situation, the only thing to do is
- put on your biggest smile and do your best. Doesn't mean the situation
- is a good one in the short run.
-
- If your picture were accurate, we wouldn't need education at all.
- Companies could hire any old enthusiast off the street, turn him or her
- loose and do just fine. In fact, self-motivated enthusiasts do not
- universally make the best workers, mostly because teamwork and antennae
- for one's corporate culture are important and valuable parts of working
- life. I don't mean to make a sweeping generalization. I have observed
- examples, is all.
-
- >> In the U. S., how much money you have to play with is one
- >> BIG factor in determining what you can do.
- >
- >....In the U.S. (and elsewhere), how much determination you have is one
- >BIG factor in what you do with the money you have.
- >
- >Necessity is the mother of invention...no one said that money inspires
- >creativity, self-discipline or intelligence. You're facing necessity, so
- >count your blessings and cut the jealousy. You have been given a
- >background that can motivate you to great heights if you appreciate it
- >for the kick in the behind it is.
-
- Again, I disagree. Money (plus class) is a major factor. Consider two
- students, both of whom are intelligent, serious, goal-oriented, well-
- prepared, and hard-working. Let's call them Alf and Herman. Alf's
- parents are suburban doctors who make several hundred kilodollars per
- year between them. Herman's parents are storekeepers with high-school
- diplomas in Podunk, _______ (fill in any rural state), and they can
- afford to keep their house only because real-estate values are so low.
- The idea that this constitutes some sort of `advantage' for Herman is
- ludicrous. Alf can get extra R & R trips home for long weekends. Alf
- can pay for his own counseling if necessary. Alf can furnish a room in
- reasonable comfort and not worry if his or her jeans are getting too
- thin in the rear. Alf has parents who specifically understand much of
- his situation from personal experience and can therefore offer an
- empathy that is constructive and pertinent. Alf can go through a
- demanding schedule of term papers and final exams without worrying how
- he is going eat over the summer. Alf has observed and learned the ropes
- of social life at the social-class level he is destined to be a part of
- and need never fret about his ability to get along. And regardless of
- inborn ability, Alf will probably have had a lot more _practice_ at
- meeting intellectual challenges.
-
- In short, Alf is happier than Herman and has greater reserves of
- personal energy.
-
- The most important fact I learned in college is that Alf is _just_ as
- motivated, _just_ as enthusiastic, _just_ as disciplined, and _just_ as
- determined as Herman is. Herman has no advantage in motivation. All
- his motivation just gets him (at best) even with Alf in that one
- department. Alf's other advantages are real, concrete, actual
- advantages that Herman cannot wish away.
-
- You are quite right that Herman has no choice but to suck it up and get
- on with his life. There is no use brooding about the subject any more
- than you can help.
-
- But you can't expect a person to pull the wool over his or her own eyes.
- Anger is natural and is a direct result of understanding what's going
- on. I venture to suggest that a person in such a situation who does not
- feel anger lacks insight, or else is repressing. Such anger has to be
- dealt with honestly, not given an optimistic whitewash. That will do
- more harm than good.
-
- [ Flame off... ]
-
-
- Robert S. Hill
- bhill@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov
-