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- From: maj@waikato.ac.nz
- Newsgroups: sci.logic,sci.classics
- Subject: Re: Ad hominum
- Message-ID: <1992Nov13.155204.12152@waikato.ac.nz>
- Date: 13 Nov 92 15:52:04 +1300
- References: <1992Nov11.173613.12104@waikato.ac.nz> <BxK0uw.7tC@unx.sas.com>
- Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand
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- In article <BxK0uw.7tC@unx.sas.com>, sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com (Gary Merrill) writes:
- >
- > In article <1992Nov11.173613.12104@waikato.ac.nz>, maj@waikato.ac.nz writes:
- > |> Gary Merrill in sci.classics :
- > |>
- > |>
- > |> Brian, you're being really dense here. The point is not what kinds
- > |> of insight one acquires by being a woman, a slave, or a serf, but
- > |> rather what *position* one may gain by being a "feminist philosopher",
- > |> a "slave philospher", or a "serf philosopher".
- > |>
- > |>
- > |>
- > |> Gary Merrill in sci.logic :
- > |>
- > |>
- > |> Ah yes. The ultimate academic bugaboo: funding. Everything (even your
- > |> taxonomy of cognitive disciplines) must be a slave to funding.
- >
- > No, not exactly. While these remarks *might* be attacked as being
- > certain types of fallacies of relevance, the fallacy in question
- > are *not* ad hominem. I refer you to Carney & Scheer, _Logic and
- > Argument_ for the details (or any decent book on rhetoric).
-
- Sorry. I know that there was no ad hominem in a technical sense.
- And I was refering to *my* argumentation in maliciously quoting
- you, rather that the structure of your *your* argument.
-
- >
- > Moreover, since these were *not* offered as *arguments*, it is
- > somewhat inaccurate to characterize them thus. Think of them as
- > armchair (though based on some experience with these matters)
- > sociological observations concerning *why* certain things are of
- > intense interest to academics at certain times. I not, at least,
- > that you do not impugn the *truth* of these remarks.
- >
- Only indirectly, in that they appear to contradict each other, at
- least if the 'must' in the second quote is intended to be ironic.
-
- > --
- > Gary H. Merrill [Principal Systems Developer, C Compiler Development]
- > SAS Institute Inc. / SAS Campus Dr. / Cary, NC 27513 / (919) 677-8000
- > sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com ... !mcnc!sas!sasghm
- --
- Murray A. Jorgensen [ maj@waikato.ac.nz ] University of Waikato
- Department of Mathematics and Statistics Hamilton, New Zealand
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