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- From: holmes@garnet.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes)
- Subject: Re: Russell's Paradox
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- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:05:57 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov11.175842.123427@Cookie.secapl.com> frank@Cookie.secapl.com (Frank Adams) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov10.001234.18488@guinness.idbsu.edu> holmes@garnet.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes) writes:
- >>In article <1992Nov09.172532.43648@Cookie.secapl.com> frank@Cookie.secapl.com (Frank Adams) writes:
- >>>All right; but what would you put in it's place? I'm not willing to call
- >>>something "set theory" unless it has *some* recognizable form of the axiom
- >>>of comprehension. Can you formalize your ideas?
- >>
- >>ii. NFU:
- >
- >Yes, Randall, I know that's what *you* would put in its place. If you can
- >show that NF[U]'s comprehension rule is free from the kind of objection David
- >is making, I will grant that you have given a good reason for taking NFU
- >seriously. It isn't enough to show that a few examples work, however.
-
- I agree with your remarks absolutely. The case for NFU does not rest
- on a few examples. There is an equiconsistency proof with set
- theories of the usual type. Rosser developed the foundations of
- mathematics in _Logic for Mathematicians_ in a way which can be
- adapted to NFU (he used NF itself). Finally, there is a philosophical
- argument of sorts (due to myself (unfortunately for my attempt to
- cloak it with Authority!)) indicating why unstratified formulae should
- not be understood to define legitimate properties of sets.
-
- NFU is impredicative, which may cause Gudeman to object to it. If
- impredicativity is rejected, mathematics is weakened considerably.
- The predicative fragment NFI of NF is consistent (with full
- extensionality!) but weaker than Peano arithmetic. (When I say NFU, I
- mean NFU + at least the Axiom of Infinity; NFU by itself is also
- weaker than arithmetic, as is the theory of types without infinity).
- But it allows a much wider range of definitions of sets than the usual
- set theory (for example, most natural categories are sets in NFU).
-
-
- --
- The opinions expressed | --Sincerely,
- above are not the "official" | M. Randall Holmes
- opinions of any person | Math. Dept., Boise State Univ.
- or institution. | holmes@opal.idbsu.edu
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