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- From: torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen)
- Subject: Re: Impredicativity - was: Russell's Paradox
- In-Reply-To: pratt@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU's message of 5 Nov 92 17:00:56 GMT
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- Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:22:23 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov5.170056.21983@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> pratt@Sunburn.
- Stanford.EDU (Vaughan R. Pratt) writes:
-
- >I find an
- >AFA world very appealing, but clearly it's not for everyone. I claim
- >no more.
-
- But how are your views incompatible with anything claimed by anybody
- else (as was suggested by your earlier comments about the cumulative
- hierarchy)? The cumulative hierarchy is a mathematical structure
- described and envisaged by people like Zermelo. There is nothing in
- what Zermelo says that rules out other mathematical structures being
- described and envisaged. There is nothing in what Zermelo says that
- implies that people who speak about "sets" must mean sets in the sense
- of Zermelo. The idea that "set" means something definite, on which
- people may have conflicting and incompatible opinions, is not on the
- face of it any more justified than the idea that "number" means
- something definite on which people may have conflicting and
- incompatible opinions. My interest may be in the natural numbers, but
- this does not mean that somebody's explanation and investigation of the
- complex numbers is in any sense "wrong" from my point of view. Similarly,
- I understand (in a general way) sets in the sense of "iterated set of",
- but this does not mean that I reject other notions. I'm quite
- prepared to consider non-well-founded explanations of "set". I simply
- don't see any conflict between such explanations and the cumulative
- hiearchy.
-