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- From: mjones@bk-kgnaix11.aix.kingston.ibm.com (Mike Jones)
- Newsgroups: sci.econ
- Subject: Re: American Culture and Why "Intellectuals" Hate It with Passion
- Message-ID: <1992Nov5.115117@bk-kgnaix11.aix.kingston.ibm.com>
- Date: 5 Nov 92 16:51:17 GMT
- References: <1992Oct29.034704.21522@nuscc.nus.sg> <jyc.720463373@Leland> <Bx32r9.MKM@quake.sylmar.ca.us>
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- In article <Bx32r9.MKM@quake.sylmar.ca.us>, brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder) writes:
- | In article <jyc.720463373@Leland> jyc@leo.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis) writes:
- | >ipser@solomon.technet.sg (Ed Ipser) writes:
- |
- | >>Often, American culture is derided by the so-called "intellectuals".
- | >>(And by that, I do not mean the traditional definition of those who
- | >>use their intellect to make a living as, in a increasingly service
- | >>economy, there are today few people today who would not fit into that
- | >>category but, rather, people who fancy themselves as in some way
- | >>gifted to impose their views upon the rest of us, to save us from
- | >>ourselves.)
- |
- | > I would like to point out that according to this definition America's
- | >leading intellectuals are Ronald Reagan, George Bush, Dan Quayle, Pat
- | >Robertson, Pat Buchanan, and Jesse Helms.
- |
- | I find it curious that you mention those guys while ignoring those on the
- | other side who seek to impose their views on us on principle.
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- Care to post a comparable list? I actually can't think of anyone on the left
- who has the "legitimacy" (e.g., is covered regularly in mainstream papers)
- and political clout of, say, Robertson or Helms and has nearly as repressive
- an agenda on the left.
-
- | I certainly
- | wouldn't defend the guys on your list as advocates of freedom (particularly
- | not Robertson) but they at least CLAIM to be opposed to government
- | meddling and actually propose less of it than their political opponents.
-
- In economics. If you're a "good American".
-
- | I should also add that the kinds of restrictions your black-list guys
- | would like to impose have not been successfully implemented (eg. anti-porn
- | laws, religious laws, sex, etc.) whereas the other guys have their hands in my
- | pocket and their eyes looking over my shoulder every day in every aspect of
- | my life.
-
- Tell it to any bookstore owner who's been shut down. Any gallery owner who's
- had to defend his right to show Mapplethorpe photos in court. Any Native
- American who's lost his job for taking peyote. Anyone who's been subject to
- any of the various "anti-sodomy" laws.
-
- Mike Jones | AIX/ESA Development | mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com
-
- Everyone can be taught to sculpt: Michelangelo would have had to be taught
- how *not* to. So it is with the great programmers.
-