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- From: bz269@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James D. Del Vecchio)
- Newsgroups: sci.crypt,comp.org.eff.talk,alt.privacy,talk.politics.guns
- Subject: Re: Registering "Assault Keys"
- Date: 12 Nov 1992 11:24:11 GMT
- Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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- In a previous article, gurgle@netcom.com (Pete Gontier) says:
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- >>...it would hurt. History has proven this time and time again.
- >>New York, Wash. DC, Chicago, all places that have banned guns and have
- >>the highest crime rates in the country, with the crime rates rising
- >>dramatically after the citizenry was unarmed.
- >
- >It might be that the U.S. is already too screwed up with weird
- >judeo-Xian guilt/hate for a ban on handguns to result in anything but
- >pandemonium. See? I'm a reasonable guy. I'm willing to fall back
- >to the position: "In any *reasonable* society, this would work..."
- >Like, perhaps, the majority of other western societies.
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- Give one example of a country where their murder and violent
- crime rate dropped as a result of a handgun ban. I'll make it easy
- on you in that you don't have to prove causation, merely show the
- murder/violent crime stats for ten years following and preceeding
- the ban.
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- I don't think you will find one such country: Perhaps
- no "reasonable" societies as you think of them exist.
-
- Jim Del Vecchio
-
- >Remember, we're talking about kids finding Daddy's gun, here. 5%
- >sounds to me like a lot less than the present percentage, and in
- >the terms to which I'm so valiantly trying to limit the discussion,
- >that's a Good Thing.
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- Provide an example where a ban has solved this limited problem,
- same crit as above.
-