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- From: gurgle@netcom.com (Pete Gontier)
- Subject: Re: Registering "Assault Keys"
- Message-ID: <1992Nov12.071135.2216@netcom.com>
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- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:11:35 GMT
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- sjo@cci632.cci.com (Steve Owens) writes:
- >Please state an example
- >of something that is legal to do, that you do not do, and still feel
- >your right to participate in such activity should be banned.
-
- Smoking tobacco. Drinking alcohol. Telling kids they'll go to hell
- if they do taboo thing X. I could go on for a while.
-
- >It would keep the law-abiding
- >citizen from participating in a very satisfying form of recreation.
-
- True. But what's recreational satisfaction compared to the blood
- of innocents?
-
- An aside: why is it that terms like "law-abiding" creep into
- these descriptions? Are criminals unable to derive the same
- recreational satisfaction?
-
- >Since there is no evidence to support the claim that a ban would work,
- >there is no reason to support such a ban.
-
- Name just about any country in the EC. Remember, we're talking
- about kids finding Daddy's gun and shooting each other with it out
- of ignorance. That's *all* I'm talking about.
-
- >Why can't we address the underlying problems?
-
- How much time do you have? :-) In short, for all the reasons Perot
- outlined in his campaign speeches. (Not that I voted for Perot,
- nosir.)
-
- >"Patching the system" simply adds kludge on top of
- >kludge until you have a system that is so huge noone can understand it
- >and noone can support it. If that's the case, it's time for a new system.
-
- Ah, now we've gotten to crux of the problem, haven't we?
-
- Programmers refer to an old, creaky, patched up system as "mature",
- at least when they're trying to hire new blood. "Mature" is the way
- I'd describe our system. Hell, it's just about the oldest government
- on the planet.
-
- >>I understand that a ban on handguns would merely be a band-aid. That
- >>doesn't change my preference.
-
- >If you realize a handgun ban doesn't address the problem, then
- >for what reason do you support a handgun ban?
-
- A band-aid *does* address the problem. Just not very well.
-
- >If you really want to solve the problem, try studying the problem
- >and comming up with real solutions instead of supporting a band-aid that
- >will only effect law-abiding citizens like you or me.
-
- I'm too cynical for that. Maybe when I have lots of money I'll
- start thinking about solutions. For now, band-aids'll do fine.
- --
- Pete Gontier // EC Technology // gurgle@netcom.com
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