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- From: gurgle@netcom.com (Pete Gontier)
- Subject: Re: Registering "Assault Keys"
- Message-ID: <1992Nov10.044148.22135@netcom.com>
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- References: <1992Oct30.033830.24244@netcom.com> <Bx26oC.LEK@nocusuhs.nnmc.navy.mil> <1992Nov8.030704.3898@netcom.com> <1794@rwing.UUCP>
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:41:48 GMT
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- pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto) writes:
-
- >Kids have accidents with guns because they don't know that it could
- >be poison to them, either. Its just this curious metallic object...
-
- We weren't discussing accidents. We were discussing Kid X shooting
- Kid Y in some kind of 1) juvenile power game, or 2) cops 'n' robbers.
-
- >And this is, of course, ignoring the fact that the only thing that
- >is LOWER on the accidental death scale than guns for kids is poison
- >gas...
-
- I'm not sure what follows from this.
-
- >As to glorifying guns on TV, how about putting all the energy you seem
- >to want to apply to deny MY choice whether to own a gun or not to making
- >the producers of those cartoons and movies clean up THEIR act?
-
- Maybe I am. You have no way of knowing. In the meantime, you still
- have to deal with my anti-gun arguments, because whatever my stance
- is on this media glorification, it can't be inconsistent with this
- argument. Apples and oranges.
-
- >Would
- >you be as cavalier about someone trying to deny YOUR choice on something
- >you consider of signifigant importance to you (assuming the choice being
- >foisted on you is not the one you would take). Since you don't care
- >for guns, a ban on them will not affect you, at least in the short term,
- >so you consider that an acceptable restriction,
-
- The fact is that plenty of activities, substances, and what-have-you
- are banned even though plenty of people don't do or use them. I don't
- smoke pot. I don't break into other peoples' computers. I don't
- expose myself to old ladies. Like shooting guns, I don't have any
- urge to do any of those things. I don't see what that has to do with
- whether I should be allowed to, though.
-
- >but the TV producers
- >cleaning up their act might remove some shows you enjoy, and that would
- >be an inconvenience from your point of view?
-
- ...and I stopped beating my wife, let's see, about two weeks ago.
- Really, you don't need to get so fired up that you have to put words
- in my mouth.
-
- >Or could it be that a ban
- >on guns looks to be the quick fix, even though I have yet to see any
- >evidence of its efficacy in reducing either homicide or other crimes of
- >violence, or overall accidental deaths.
-
- Quick, I dunno. Sure wouldn't hurt. Let's give it a try.
-
- >If accidental death prevention
- >is your goal, there are many things one could devote their energies to
- >that would save a *LOT* more lives than going after guns.
-
- How many calories do you suppose I'm burning by typing in these
- messages? Perhaps I also get a kick out of expressing myself in
- the English language -- how do you amortize? It's silly for you
- to suggest that I don't devote my energies to preventing other
- kinds of accidental death. Perhaps I do, perhaps I don't. It's
- not relevant.
-
- >Only problem
- >with these are are that they are not considered fashionable, 'hip', or
- >'cool' or whatever term is applcable these days.
-
- I was the guy in high school who wore pink slacks and got beat up
- by the football team. How concerned about 'hip' can I be?
-
- >The *ONLY* difference between a gun of some type and another tool that
- >can be used to cause death or bodily injury is that so much of our
- >movie/TV fare glorifies solving ones problems with a bullet.
-
- This leads into a whole other argument: what's the purpose of a
- handgun? I say it was designed solely for killing people. Others
- dredge up handgun hunter magazines. Who knows? But it's another
- argument, so let's leave it alone for the moment.
-
- >Please explain why
- >*I* should be penalized for something some irresponsible producers seem
- >to like to feed us for a non-stop diet, or that irresponsible (but
- >oh-so-progressive) community 'leaders' could be taking to address the
- >root CAUSES of urban violence (except that it would require recognizing
- >some unpleasant truths, and a bit of effort)? Better to blame some
- >inantimate hardware...
-
- It's true that addressing the underlying problems would be the more
- elegant solution. But it'll never happen. All we can do at this point
- is patch the system. This seems like a good patch to me.
-
- >Of course, all this lacks the appeal of the 'magic bullet': Just pass
- >this one more 'reasonable' law, and all our problems will go away...
-
- I understand that a ban on handguns would merely be a band-aid. That
- doesn't change my preference.
- --
- Pete Gontier // EC Technology // gurgle@netcom.com
-