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- From: ericb@hplsla.hp.com (Eric Backus)
- Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1992 17:17:52 GMT
- Subject: Re: Simple hardware RNG
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- rja14@cl.cam.ac.uk (Ross Anderson) writes:
- > ericb@hplsla.hp.com (Eric Backus) writes:
- > > Fundamentally, I think this idea works. I have built a zener-diode
- > > noise source similar to this, that I then xor'ed into a hardware
- > > feedback-shift-register PRN generator. The noise coming out of this
- > > appears to be quite random.
- >
- > You have to be a bit careful here. The bitstream from the feedback shift
- > register will look random even if there is not a lot of noise coming out
- > of the zener, or if the entropy of the noise source is being killed by a
- > circuit resonance somewhere.
- >
- > Ross Anderson
-
- Agreed. The analog noise source must first be verified before hooking
- it to the digital noise source. One thing to verify is that the
- high-frequency cutoff (whether due to an explicit filter or due to
- bandwidth limit of your op-amp) is much higher than the frequency at
- which you will sample the noise source. Another thing to verify is
- that the frequency spectrum of the noise output doesn't contain any
- suspicious peaks, especially at frequencies related to the frequency
- at which you will sample the noise source.
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- Eric Backus
- ericb@hplsla.hp.com
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