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- From: charles@capmkt.COM (Charles Neveu)
- Newsgroups: sci.bio
- Subject: Re: Interesting Optical Illusion
- Message-ID: <759@capmkt.COM>
- Date: 5 Nov 92 22:33:15 GMT
- References: <68666@cup.portal.com> <95638@netnews.upenn.edu> <758@capmkt.COM> <96081@netnews.upenn.edu>
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- barkdoll@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Edwin Barkdoll) writes:
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- >In article <758@capmkt.COM> charles@capmkt.COM (Charles Neveu) writes:
- >>barkdoll@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Edwin Barkdoll) writes:
- >>>In article <68666@cup.portal.com> mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) writes:
- >>>>Another interesting effect I have noticed is that if you stand about
- >>>>four or five feet away from a window screen or screen door, you can see
- >>>>bands of light and dark in the screen. I believe this is due to a sort
- >>>>of Moire pattern, in which the screen as projected on the retina is about
- >>>>the same spatial frequency as the array of rods and cones.
-
- >>> I suspect that the phenomenon you observe is related to
- >>>so-called spurious resolution. As frequency increases contrast falls
- >>>to zero, reverses phase, goes to zero, reverses phase..
-
- >>Was there a window behind the screen? If so, I think the original
- >>poster was right: it is a Moire pattern.
-
- > The poster proposed that the effect was a result of
- >photoreceptor spacing NOT a Moire pattern _projected_ onto the retina.
-
- Ooops. Skimmed it to fast.
-
- >>It is the interference
- >>between the screen and the reflection of the screen on the window.
-
- I still don't think spurious resolution is the explanation.
- The original poster (you still there?) said bands of light and dark,
- meaning, I assume, bands of lower frequency than screen frequency.
- Spurious resolution causes phase changes, not frequency changes, as a
- result of the high frequency roll-off of the optical system.
- So, if the bands are the same frequency as the screen, then it's
- spurious resolution, but if they are lower, then I'll bet on Moire.
-
- > Moire patterns at least as we are discussing them here are not
- >the result of interference, rather they result from teh simple
- >summation of spatial patterns.
-
- Interference is simple summation.
-
- Charles Neveu (neveu@milo.berkeley.edu)
- Neurology Unit
- Program in Physiological Optics
- UCBerkeley
-