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- From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
- Subject: Re: Sudden and Drastic Drop in Gas Mileage
- Message-ID: <BxJEt4.GsH@cmptrc.lonestar.org>
- Sender: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:48:40 GMT
- Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX
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- In article <1992Nov10.134924.11873@engage.pko.dec.com> sontakke@helix.enet.dec.com (Vikas Sontakke) writes:
- >
- >I am experiencing a drastic and very sudden drop in the gas mileage (i.e. from
- >30's into 20's). I have not done anything to the car recently. The oil was
- >changed 1.5K miles ago, spark plugs were changed around 4K miles. The
- >driveability and the performance of the car has not changed a bit. There is
- >NO smoke, NO smell. Choke opens as it should when the car warms up.
- >
- >The weather has become very cold in this part of the country. But few extra
- >minutes of warm-up does not explain such a drop in the mileage.
- >
- >All tune-up components (such as plugs, cap, rotor, wires etc) are new or nearly
- >new. The mileage of the car has always dropped in the winter months (from 30 to
- >27) but since last tankful, every time I start the car, I swear the gas needle
- >loses a tick or two.
- >
- >Since the car had been running pretty decently, I do not want to mess with it
- >much. Besides it is freezing out there to take a wrench.
- >
- >I will be switching gas stations to rule out bad gas. However, I can't see how
- >the car can start drinking the gasoline by gallons (last 300 miles) and not
- >change its performance or driveability by an iota. Gas is not leaking and it is
- >not being siphoned off. Nothing else can explain this drop.
- >
- >For crying out loud, my other car, Taurus SHO got 27.5 miles on its last 1400
- >miles trip!
- >
- >(car is 83 Honda Prelude, 115K miles, carburated, KNOCK_ON_THE_WOOD-> runs as
- > nice as it did when it was new <-KNOCK_ON_THE_WOOD)
-
- Since it is carburated, the automatic choke has some sort of heating device
- attached, probably electric (or maybe a heat riser tube from the exhaust
- manifold like older American cars used to have). It sounds as though the choke
- may not be opening fully when the engine is warmed up to operating temperature
- which could cause the gas mileage to drop and maybe actually very slightly
- increase performance a bit since Hondas normally run a little lean as part of
- their design. If you could stand to freeze just a little, try looking into the
- carb after the engine has run just enough to barely warm up to normal from dead
- cold. If the choke is not completely 100% open then either the choke heater is
- not working properly of the thermostatic spring in the choke may be worn out
- since it is ~10 years old. If the choke is 100% open and you're still getting
- reduced mileage, gasoline quality may be the culprit. During the winter months,
- a lot of states require gasoline to have a lot of ethanol or MTBE in it for
- pollution control laws and this will reduce gas mileage and power output
- somewhat. I have a '92 GMC pickup with the Vortek V-6 engine and I just noticed
- a huge drop in gas mileage when using regular unleaded gas here in Dallas a
- few weeks ago (from ~25 highway to ~15 highway). Switching to unleaded
- premium brought the mileage back up to where it belongs. The unleaded regular
- I had been using (Texaco) also smells different than it did during the summer
- months and has the tendancy to make my motor detonate a lot easier than it did
- earlier in the year. I suspect that all the major gasoline companies are
- diluting gas with oxygenating additives for distribution everywhere instead
- of only in gas destined for areas which require it by law so they don't have to
- bother with the additional storage and transportation hassles of more blends
- than they already had to deal with before the laws requiring emissions-reducing
- fuels. I just hope the quality of the unleaded premium I've been getting lately
- holds out for the rest of the winter since the regular fuel has been giving the
- detonation sensor/dynamic ignition timing portions of the electronic engine
- control system in my truck a heavy duty workout ( I can actually feel the timing
- retard under mild acceleration as soon as the engine begins to clatter with the
- crappy gas, at least I know the system is doing it's job and keeping the motor
- from running in constant detonation). I thought MTBE was supposed to increase
- the motor octane rating of fuels too, but at the expense of energy content.
- Maybe whatever they're putting in the cheaper regular grade isn't MTBE,
- maybe they're just blending with more of the straight chain shorter hydrocarbons
- like hexane and heptane, I dunno.....
-
- Ramblin on and on,
- Neal Howard
-
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- Neal Howard '91 XLH-1200 DoD #686 CompuTrac, Inc (Richardson, TX)
- "Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps
- we shall learn the truth." -- August Kekule' (1890)
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