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- From: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
- Newsgroups: rec.audio
- Subject: Re: DCC, MD Limitations
- Message-ID: <27396@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
- Date: 11 Nov 92 06:27:43 GMT
- References: <of07=ae00WAuMm90Qm@andrew.cmu.edu>
- Reply-To: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
- Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD
- Lines: 87
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- In rec.audio, bc2y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Brian T Cheek) writes:
- >What would happen if you recorded a whisper + loud electric guitar sound
- >on either MD or DCC. The whisper would be dropped, correct?
- >
- >So what happens if you phase out that loud electric guitar, and record
- >it to another recording?
- >
- >You'd get blank space.
-
- Phase out the guitar? Who on earth would want to do that? You talk
- like this is some type of standard practice. Wrong-O.
-
- If you want a recording of a wisper, you don't store it under a
- recording of an electric guitar - with any format.
-
- >I hear the flames coming, but listen: If musicians use either of these
- >formats for source sampling, when you later go in to edit or
- >effect-process those sounds, some of the original sound components would
- >have been dropped, and not be acted on.
-
- Why would musicians use these formats for "source sampling" if they
- had side effects that the musicians didn't like? This is not a
- typical use of these formats or for any format for that mater.
-
- Besides, in my opinion, the "dropped" sounds are just as likely
- to improve the recording for this type of use.
-
- >Believe me,
-
- Why? You don't seem to have a clue. Did you ever notice that
- people that say this are the ones that can't get people to believe
- them?
-
- >sometimes it's
- >those frequencies that give body to the sound. Nobody actually
- >pinpoints them, but it sounds different if it's not there.
-
- Yeah, right. You imply that MD and DCC will throw out
- these sounds. Why do you think they will do this? (other than
- your obvious dislike for the concept of compression.)
-
- Hey, I haven't heard MD or DCC. I don't know if it's going to work and
- I don't know if I'm going to like it. But I don't start making up
- stupid reasons why it "can't" work before I've even heard them.
-
- >Why do classical listeners prefer CD's over analog cassettes?
- >Because they like the dynamic range of the highs and lows.
-
- Hey bud. MD and DCC have the same dynamic range as CD.
-
- >How can people tell the difference between real pianos and sampled ones?
- >Real piano strings resonate the other ones. (Hard to hear, but you
- >don't want to throw them away, now.
-
- Once again, how can you imply that MD or DCC will throw away these
- sounds?
-
- >Why will MD and DCC take a LONG time to mature?
- >1. Record stores can't afford to keep them with the small demand
-
- I don't think this will have anything to do with how long it
- will take to mature. If the demand is there, the record stores
- will carry them.
-
- >2. People can't even program their VCR's yet.
-
- True, but what does this have to do with MD and DCC? These units won't
- be much harder to use than cassette recorders.
-
- >3. Smart people will wait for true CD quality, (like DAT now, which
- >blows the doors off DCC in all areas but analog cassette compatibility
- >and text information)
-
- People don't have to wait. They can buy DAT now if they want it. Ever
- notice how well DAT sales are going? Did you every stop to think that
- people might want more than sound quality?
-
- And you missed one of the bigest points that will effect how long it
- takes for MD and DCC to mature. There are two formats to pick from!
- No one want's to be stuck with the format that died, so many people
- will wait to see which format "wins".
-
- >All it would take is a smart marketeer to kill both these formats!
-
- Go for it if you think you're so smart.
-
- Curt Welch
-