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- From: hartman@ulogic.UUCP (Richard M. Hartman)
- Newsgroups: news.sysadmin,news.admin,news.admin.policy
- Subject: Re: Does USENET condone CHILD PORNOGRAPHY
- Message-ID: <569@ulogic.UUCP>
- Date: 10 Nov 92 18:45:24 GMT
- References: <RZx+qAYLBh107h@momad.UUCP> <69042@cup.portal.com> <EMCGUIRE.92Nov9011321@fuller.intellection.com>
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- In article <EMCGUIRE.92Nov9011321@fuller.intellection.com> emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire) writes:
- >
- > If you want to have your jollies getting off on child pictures, and you can
- > still look yourself in the mirror, then make a newsgroup for yourselves!
- > ALT.BINARIES.PICTURES.PEDOPHELIA
- >
- >Looking at a child porn photo and yanking your willie is not
- >pedophilia. It is normal sexual fantasy accompanied by masturbation.
-
- :s/normal/abnormal/
-
- "Normal" sexual fantasy would be looking at pictures of *women*
- and "yanking your willie" (you named yours?)
-
- If you need to look at kids to get off, that is abnormal.
-
- If you distribute photos of kids to be used in this manner, that is illegal.
-
- >Pedophilia is when your sexual partner must be much younger than
- >yourself in order to sexually stimulate you. Normal people are
-
- Pedophilia is when your sexual partner is not yet of sexual age. I would
- consider this to be anything under 15 -- and that is borderline (the only
- legitimate reason to have sexual intentions to towards a 15 year old is
- if you're a teenager yourself...) The law has it's own definitions,
- and those are really the only ones that we need to be concerned with.
-
- >sexually excited by children, just as normal children are sexually
- >excited by other children and by adults. If you find child
- >pornography disgusting, don't look at it.
-
- I find it illegal.
-
- >The evil of child pornography is in the exploitation of the children
- >being photographed. This is what the law punishes. There is no law
- >against lusting after children: and if there were, there aren't enough
- >prisons to hold the "offenders."
-
- Not "lusting after", no. But there sure as hell ARE laws against
- doing anything about it. And if you get convicted of one of 'em
- don't expect kind treatment by the other inmates.
-
- >Also, don't waste your time trying to limit netnews distribution. If
- >you oppose exploitation of children, trace the photograph and file a
- >complaint to the police about the poster (or the photographer if you
- >get that far).
-
- This is an eminently sensible suggestion. However *legally* the
- photographer is NOT the only one liable. Now that you have been
- informed (as a news admin or sysop) if your system continues to
- carry these pictures, you are also liable.
-
- Enjoy.
-
-
- -Richard Hartman
- hartman@ulogic.COM
-
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