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- From: suzanne@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Suzanne Barrett)
- Subject: Re: Theme?
- Message-ID: <suzanne.90@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com>
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- References: <92310.095916KVJLC@ASUACAD.BITNET> <Bx9B00.MsA@unx.sas.com>
- Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 19:51:19 GMT
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- In article <Bx9B00.MsA@unx.sas.com> sasafw@dobo.unx.sas.com (Fred Welden) writes:
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- >In article <92310.095916KVJLC@ASUACAD.BITNET>, Jon L. Campbell <KVJLC@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
- >|A story of love is only
- >|a series of sporadic events in which multiple random events are brought
- >|together by chance. Dick meets Jane at the park, they fall in love and
- >|through a series of events marry each other. Their chance encounter
- >|in the park is not a moral passage in time, but characteristic of the
- >|chaos that occasionally brings unlike events together.
-
- >There's a theme.
-
- >|I can't imagine why anyone would try to
- >|influence the reader with their idea of what is moral and what isn't.
- >|
- >|What do you think?
-
- >I'm not convinced that "theme" and "moral" are the same thing, nor that
- >"moral" in the sense of the moral of a story has very much to do with
- >the tenets of a moral viewpoint, but grant for the moment that Garner
- >means them to be closely related:
-
- >If you're not going to try to influence the reader, why concern yourself
- >with the reader in any way? Just keep a journal of all these random,
- >chaotic events around you for your own perusal. As soon as you ask
- >someone to read what you've written, you are trying to influence them.
-
- >If you're trying to influence them, why should you avoid trying to
- >influence their moral judgment? If there is no such thing as morality,
- >as you suggest, then this will have no more significant impact than
- >trying to influence their esthetic judgment by making them realize that
- >the story in hand is well-worded. If there is such a thing as morality,
- >is there a more benign way to attempt to educate people in yours than by
- >writing stories about it?
-
- >You might note, by the way, that "Crime pays" is every bit as much a
- >moral, and a tenet of a moral viewpoint, as "Crime doesn't pay." Sounds
- >
-
- Maybe "theme" isn't as clarifying as premise. I don't think one has to
- impute any particularly morality to a story, but it should, IMHO, follow a
- premise. E.g. old Jewish proverb: "If a man lies down with dogs, he gets
- fleas." Think of all the possibilities for multi-genre stories that might
- use this premise, and no hint of imparting a morality by the author.
-
- Of course, since I write romance, I'm usually dealing with the more
- simplistic "True love conquers all" premise.
-
- Any help?
- Suzanne
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