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- Subject: Re: A gender neutral pronoun, was Fundamentalist Nightmare
- From: bigbro@netlink.cts.com (Kenneth Sullivan)
- Message-ID: <NNHsTB3w165w@netlink.cts.com>
- References: <1992Nov4.231628.27277@newstand.syr.edu>
- Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 15:26:58 PST
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- greeny@top.cis.syr.edu (J. S. Greenfield) writes:
-
- > In article <1992Nov4.134114.16362@psych.toronto.edu> grant@psych.toronto.edu
- >
- > >>If you are writing a book about automotive repair, and suddenly
- > >>everyone decides that the word "crankcase" has obscene sexual
- > >>connotations, you should probably change it to "gearbox," no matter
- > >>how stupid you think everyone is. If you don't, you risk offending
- > >>people and distracting them from your true message: how to fix a car.
- > >
- > >Isn't this a double edged sword? It seems that many people are offended
- > >by people using spellings like womyn and wimmin, and prohibitions on
- > >gendered pronouns. So, shouldn't the use of these PC terms be abandoned?
- >
- > Ultimately, one must decide what they think is reasonable, and what they thin
- > is not. Personally, I would think that objections to the word "crankcase"
- > were not reasonable, so unless the opinion was extremely widepread, I'd be
- > likely to ignore the issue. (And I would almost certainly *not* use the
- > word "gearbox" as an alternative--since that would be awfully confusing for
- > those of us who associate "gearbox" with the transmission! :)
- >
- > Personally, I find a preference for gender-neutrality reasonable for two
- > reasons: 1) I don't think I would be too comfortable if everything were
- > written as gender-specific to women, and 2) because, in reality, we are
- > talking about situations in which the ideas I want to express are *in fact*
- > gender-neutral--and it is only the limitations of the language that make
- > it more convenient and comfortable to write in a gender-specific form.
- >
- > That's my personal opinion. Since I feel that way, it's very natural to
- > wish that we has a few additional gender-neutral terms to make life
- > easier. Anyway who feels comfortable with gender-based terms should feel
- > free to continue using them. No one here is talking about compulsion to use
- > new terms. (Although some people may try to *convince* you to use the
- > gender-neutral terms.)
- >
- > On the other hand, in my personal opinion, concern over things like the
- > spelling of "women" is bordering on the non-sensical, and as such, I don't
- > think about it at all when I write.
- >
- > Agains, it is your perogative to feel and do otherwise.
- >
- >
- > But ultimately, anytime you find that someone is offended by something you
- > do, the best you can do is to evaluate whether you find the offense taken
- > to be reasonable, or to be ridiculous. If you think it is reasonable,
- > then you change. If you think it's ridiculous, you don't.
- >
- > It seems rather strange to suggest that, blindly, one should either always or
- > never react to complaints that something is offensive.
- >
- >
- > In essence, the stereotypical PC approach is to say that one should blindly
- > avoid offending people--without any concern over how *ridiculous* the
- > complaints may be. (And of course, we sometimes associate some sort of
- > compulsion to behave this way with the term "PC" too...)
- >
- > Now we have some people suggesting that we do the opposite--that is, blindly
- > refuse to avoid offending people--without any concern over how *reasonable*
- > the complaints may be. (And some of these folks seem to be suggesting
- > some sort of compulsion, too!)
- >
- > To me, both of these positions seem equally dumb.
- >
- >
- > --
- > J. S. Greenfield greeny@top.cis.syr.e
- > (I like to put 'greeny' here,
- > but my d*mn system wants a
- > *real* name!) "What's the difference between an orange
-
- Excatly, in any situation there can be a reasonable explaination and
- solution, but people will always carry it to extremes, and screw it up.
- Like enviromentalists, the enviroment, in my opinion is a worthy cause,
- however I do not feel like admitting it when EARTH FIRST! fools put
- stakes into trees to hurt the loggers....nor can I agree with those who
- are so mad at these extremeists, that the go into thier own little
- terrorists organzations, and take the other extreme. Any extreme is
- evil.
-
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