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- Subject: Re: Say it ain't so.
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- Date: 12 Nov 92 17:15:44 GMT
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- In article <BxIExK.Aqn@ddsw1.mcs.com>, arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) says:
- >If there is any validity to the notion that a mixed jury provides justice,
- >we must define the word mixed. It assumes that people have prejucides
- >and biases and by attempting to balance them, justice will prevail.
- Once again, your wealth of ignorance astounds me Steempy. We are dealing
- with the jury of a murder case, not the witnesses for or against some new
- welfare law being heard before Congress.
- >
- >It is a sicko idea and another good example of what is wrong with the
- >cultural diversity that liberals are stuffing down our throats. However,
- Only you can come up with the idea that cultural diversity is something sick.
- After all, why the hell should anyone want to be anything other than a part
- of American culture (an oxymoron- much like Arf- if ever there was one).
- Having a blend of peoples is not making them homogeneous (mixed all into one
- big part for all Ameteur Radio Fops playing the home game) but
- creating a heterogeneous group (mixed of many individual parts) which will
- instill that everyone is not the same crazed robot of one opinion. The goal
- of jury selection is to get a group which consists of people who are not of
- the "kill the nigger" or "give the nigger a medal for killing the kike"
- mentalities, but people who would care less. They picked non-involved parties,
- (which is another reason for holding the trial in Brooklyn, away from the
- center of the heat) so that they could have people coming into the trial with
- no pre-conceived notions, and have to be sold on either guilt or innocence
- of the murderer on account of either the prosecution's arguement or the
- defense's arguement. But then, such subtle points of jurisdictional
- information are far and beyond the call of Mr. Schmidling's clues as to
- what is or what isn't reality.
- >
- >What the hell do Hispanics have to do with this anyway? Why are they on the
- >jury? My understanding is that the accuse is a Negro and the victim a Jew.
- >What it the point in mixing Hispanics in the jury?
- The point of "mixing" Hispanics into the jury is for the hell of it. They
- were people not involved in the case, who couldn't give a rat's ass in
- Brooklyn either way, and not because of anything else. In your twisted,
- racist mind Jack, if there is a dispute between people of two races, they
- should be the only ones to judge. The trouble is, EVERYONE HAS TO LIVE
- IN THE SAME SOCIETY AS THE DISPUTING PARTIES (caps made to drive home point
- to man with point on head). In other words, there could have been 12
- Tibetan Mongolians on the jury, just as long as they were American citizens
- and were accepted by both the Prosecutor and the Defense Attourney. RACE HAS
- ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH JURY SELECTION, ONLY PREVIOUS KNOWLEDGE AND
- PREFORMED OPINIONS ON THE CASE. THOSE WHO HAVE NO CLUES ABOUT THE CASE GOING
- INTO THE TRIAL ARE SUPPOSED TO LEARN THEIR INFORMATION ABOUT THE CASE FROM
- THE ARGUEMENTS OF BOTH LEGAL PARTIES- 'NUFF SAID!!!
-
- Honestly, Mr. Jack Schmidling, if you have read this far, hopefully you will
- have gotten a clue as to the workings of a criminal jury trial that is known
- to a freshman in high school, let alone a college senior.
-
- Just where did you get your education? Inside a cracker-jack box?
-
- Douglas P. Wojtowicz.
-