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- Path: sparky!uunet!nwnexus!frank
- From: frank@halcyon.com (Frank Higgins)
- Subject: How to handle cheaters and con artists
- Message-ID: <1992Nov11.193048.21502@nwnexus.WA.COM>
- Sender: sso@nwnexus.WA.COM (System Security Officer)
- Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
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- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:30:48 GMT
- Lines: 67
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- For some time I've watched the traffic regarding a couple of unscrupulous
- transactions. Questionable at least. Sometimes I read to see what level the
- diatribe/actions have reached. I agree with everyone who has been ripped
- off and I am very timid about buying and very careful with fingers crossed
- when selling. Underlying all of the conversation is frustrated desire to
- solve the problem and make the net a "safer" place to "live". One wonders
- if the new administration will restore consumer protection that the Reagan
- and Bush administrations dismantled - if 900 number ripoffs will be banned
- from AT&T's operations. In the meantime, may I make a suggestion? Flame me
- or anoint me as you wish.
-
- 1) Establish a news group with a function akin to the
- Better Business Bureau. BBB functions. How effectively I don't
- know because I don't call or subscribe to BBB. Effectiveness of
- such a news group depends on how it is set up and functions.
- 2) Worry about lawsuits over defamation etc. should be no more of
- a problem than it is to BBB. Responses to queries would merely
- be quotation of complaints, reference to complainants or a
- rating or merely a listing - or a combination of all. Some legal
- begal out there should be able to guide in this matter. Truth
- should prevail.
- 3) False accusation could be parried by the threat of being listed.
- 4) Listing could be made only on request, not a periodic
- publication, or periodically published. Depends on size and
- legal advice.
- 5) IF the approach were to take the form of providing rating to
- EVERYONE, good and bad, it could become onerous to maintain.
- There could also be quibbles over whether some minor discrepancy
- should cut a person's rating from 5-star to 4-star etc. Merely a
- listing of definitely BAD behaviour, or questionable behaviour
- should be sufficient. Depends on legal and on the designer(s) or
- moderator(s) of the group (committee/board of directors?).
-
- OR
-
- 6) Would it be better handled to be a for-fee service? Would that
- be contrary to the honor system that controls
- non-commercialization of the net? Or, being a separated feature
- as some of the news groups are FOR commercial sales, would it
- pass? There are several ways THIS could go: A for-fee FAQ, a
- business advertising in one or more of the commercial sales
- groups, a free FAQ, etc. Keeping in mind that the MAIN objective
- would be to freeze out the unethical and unscrupulous (call them
- CROOKS), and such service be as widely disseminated as possible.
-
- (For-fee tends to freeze out some users with the greates need.
- An isolated news group might be overlooked by the very ones who
- need to be warned of shady characters and might be ignored BY
- the shady characters because the list is not out where everyone
- is aware of it and has access to it.)
-
- Has my wife been putting too much hemp in my tea again, or is this worth
- kicking around?
-
- Any volunteers to handle it, moderate it it, sum up the conclusions,
- implement it - or bury it?
-
- Frank
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