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- From: deglop@dewey.EEAP.CWRU.Edu (Jacob DeGlopper)
- Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
- Subject: Re: Hazard Lights on Emergency Vehicles
- Summary: Wild subjective claims debunked?
- Keywords: beacon strobe siren CHP
- Message-ID: <1df45kINN4dm@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
- Date: 7 Nov 92 00:55:16 GMT
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- In article <01GQTSTKRAIA96WI06@ritvax.isc.rit.edu> TRAUMA JUNKIE <JAT8419@RITVAX.BITNET> writes:
-
- >TOO many lights are dangerous. Studies showed that red and blue lights draw
- >fatigued and drunk drivers directly at your vehicle. I was shown pictures and
-
- > Strobes are hopefully on the way out. Studies show that they can cause
- >seizures in the epileptic pt.
-
- >driver has his window closed and normal car noise like light music your siren
- >range is as follows....
-
- >Wail 200 ft.
- >Yelp 150 ft
- >Electronic air horn 6 ft
- >Phaser 100 ft.
-
- I'd be _extremly_ interested in seeing any references you can provide to
- support these last two claims. I have attempted to do research in this
- field, and there has been very little if any serious study in this branch
- of applied optics in the last 20 years. The researchers responsible for
- the NBS's "Emergency Vehicle Warning Lights: State of the Art", which was
- published in 1973, have long since retired. There have been many, many
- _subjective_ articles in Firehouse, Emergency!, and now JEMS -- none of
- these have used any controlled techniques to study the problem in question.
-
- I am aware of the CHP study concerning the "draw" of beacons on a vehicle
- parked on the side of the road; I do not recall a correlation between color
- and attractiveness.
-
- Strobes (and rotators) on emergency vehicles generally fire 1-3 times a
- second; the frequencies that initiate photic seizures are closer
- to the 8-13 Hz of the alpha waves. The Swedish strobe study showed some
- difficulty placing the location of a strobe system due to the extreme
- ratio of time on to time off, and some disorientation of those working
- right next to a multiple strobe system, but no seizures.
-
- I have never seen a scientific study that quotes distances sirens may be
- audible. I do not understand why changing the speed of the cycles would
- change the distance it would be audible. How do you account for the
- differences in power between various siren configurations, various speaker
- mounting locations, speaker designs, ambient noise, and variations in car
- design?
-
- > There is no safe was to cross an intersection but to STOP and make eye
- > contact and proceed slowly. Don't put your life in the hands of a
- > machine.
-
- I agree with your conclusions. Warning devices do not grant you the
- right of way; they request it.
- --
- Jacob DeGlopper, EMT-A, Wheaton (MD) Volunteer Rescue Squad
- -- CWRU Biomedical Engineering - jrd5@po.cwru.edu --
-