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- From: trif@bike.rad.washington.edu (To Run In Fear)
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- Subject: Re: Doctor ripoff, or just reality?
- Message-ID: <TRIF.92Nov13093723@bike.rad.washington.edu>
- Date: 13 Nov 92 17:37:23 GMT
- Article-I.D.: bike.TRIF.92Nov13093723
- References: <1992Nov12.083330.7221@netcom.com> <1992Nov12.232224.4546@netcom.com>
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- Organization: University of Washington, Seattle WA
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- In-Reply-To: rcain@netcom.com's message of Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:22:24 GMT
-
- In article <1992Nov12.232224.4546@netcom.com> rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
- strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
- :
- : My complaint is the physician billing $300 for his service. I was separately
- : billed another $300 by Huntington for the facilities, so that's not included.
- : I was separately billed another couple of hundred bucks by the radiologist,
- : so that's not included either.
- :
- : My orthopedist charges $300 total for his service, X-ray, and his facilities
- : all included, and he is considerably more experienced and renowned than
- : the e.r. physician.
- :
-
- David, do you honestly believe that your physician's overhead approaches
- that of a properly equipped ER on a per visit basis?
-
- He did state that the doctor's $300 fee was separate from the hospital
- charging for the emergency room. I suspect you have never had to actually
- pay for your medical care, or you would have realized that in most hospitals,
- the doctor bills the patient for his/her time, and the hospital bills for
- use of facilities. Those of us who have had to use emergency rooms and then
- pay ourselves for the care are painfully aware of this fact.
-
- A few years ago, I had to visit the University of Washington Medical Center
- emergency room with an accellerated heartbeat. I spent a little over an
- hour in the emergency room (most of which was observation time), was attended
- by 4 different physician's assistants (they seemed to come out of the woodwork
- when I was hooked up to the heart monitor---the alarm went off because my
- heart was beating so fast), an EKG tech, and a doctor. They did 2 EKG's
- (before and after), and administered a drug to bring my heart rate down (after
- trying several non-drug methods). The bills from the doctor and hospital
- together totalled about $450. If Huntington is in California, I would expect
- things to be higher, also if it were a private hospital (UWMC is a teaching
- hospital and run on a not-for-profit basis---they even took extra EKG copies
- for teaching purposes because I was "such a classic case."), but $300 just
- to look at a damned X-ray is highway robbery. The doctor in my case was with
- me for quite some time, was always polite and patient, and just before I was
- released, came in to say that she recommended that I see a cardiologist, but
- being aware that I had no insurance, she described several things that I
- could do if I had another episode so that I would not have to visit the ER
- again. Even if he had had a broken leg, $1000 would be outrageous. I suspect
- a lot of hospitals really stick it to ER patients, since many of them can't
- just up and walk out.
-
- For anybody in the Seattle area, I highly recommend UWMC. They might not
- have the fancy decor, but their care is top rate. My sister-in-law
- negotiated with her insurance company to get them to pay for her to have
- her second baby born there because she was so happy with the hospital
- when her first baby was born there.
-