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- From: kapa@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (k.a.perkins)
- Subject: Re: Doctor ripoff, or just reality?
- Organization: AT&T
- Distribution: na
- Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 06:13:47 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Nov13.061347.4826@cbnewsc.cb.att.com>
- Followup-To: misc.consumers
- Summary: speak for yourself
- References: <1992Nov10.214207.10802@bradley.bradley.edu> <1992Nov12.202654.25647@cpqhou.compaq.com>
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- In article <1992Nov12.202654.25647@cpqhou.compaq.com>, thomasr@cpqhou.compaq.com (Thomas Rush) writes:
- > In article <Uf0C8uW00YUnQ1TElU@andrew.cmu.edu> "Bartley R. Troyan" <bt26+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
- > >> We expect that this stuff will be covered by the health
- > >> insurance company, but we are still a bit enraged at this pricing.
- > >>
- > >The costs just keep going up and we keep paying them in the form of
- > >more costly insurance...and the insurance companies try to screw you
- > >too by refusing to pay stuff that they should (at least mine does)
- > >
- >
- > One of the reasons that health care has gotten so expensive is that
- > we now expect to be reimbursed for every little visit to the doctor.
- > We want low deductables.
-
- >
- > So once we have such a plan (with all the concomittent paperwork,
- > both for the insurer and the insured), we feel that we have to get
- > our money's worth -- we go to the doctor when we might not, were
- > the bill ours to pay alone.
-
- Speak for yourself. I don't know an adult who goes to the doctor
- for colds, minor flus, or minor illnesses. For me, it wouldn't be
- entirely an issue of cost, but one of convenience and hassle, combined
- with the knowledge that many things will get better on their own just
- as fast as with medical intervention.
-
- It is quite clear to me what my insurance is not
- going to pay for, like preventative medicine, for example. My insurance
- will not pay a dime for vaccinations, but if I or one of my dependents
- got polio or tuberculosious (sp?), they would pay big time. I am not
- talking about anything
- experimental or frivolous, I am talking about shots that all board
- certified pediatricians would recommend, shots that any kid who wants
- to go to public school has to have. They do not pay for any kind
- of well person or preventative medicine, such as yearly pap smears
- or physical exams, although the purpose of such an exam is to detect
- any problems early so that they can be treated in the quickest, most
- effective, and least expensive way. They do not pay for birth control
- pills, although the cost of one full term unplanned, uncomplicated
- pregnancy which they do cover would pay for birth control pills for
- the entire reproductive life of 1 or 2 women. This doesn't even take
- into account the cost of the medical care of the resulting child.
- Their motto appears to be "thousands of dollars for cures, not one
- dime for prevention".
- The only exception to the "no preventative medicine payments" that I
- can think of is that they do pay for prenatal care.
-
- This past summer, I spent a lot of phone time convincing my dental
- carrier to pay a covered bill. After 6 months, they paid up. From
- what I read on other bulletin boards, that was pretty quick for a
- problem situation. I have spent phone time trying to convince Blue
- Cross that a 2 year old child, with a sore eye that is swelling shut
- from an unknown cause, (foreign object in it perhaps?) whose
- pediatrician can't see her until Monday
- (this was on Friday afternoon), is an emergency that justifies going
- to an Immediate Care facility, which is an ER for low rent type
- emergencies. This kind of dispute is not unusual for this carrier,
- from what I can tell from various other sources.
-
- I also got a letter from my employer, who is self insured, by the
- way, telling me that their costs for health care had gone up 14%
- this past year, so mine were going to go up 150%. Yet I count
- myself fortunate to even have insurance, since 40 million folks
- in this country don't.
-