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- From: abulloch@garnet.berkeley.edu (Anthony Bulloch)
- Newsgroups: misc.consumers,alt.business.multi-level
- Subject: Re: Nope again (was Re: Yup, Amway's a scam)
- Followup-To: alt.business.multi-level
- Date: 6 Nov 1992 22:24:45 GMT
- Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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- Before going any further I want to state clearly that I am _not_
- asserting that 'my' MLM (or anyone else's) is better than 'your' MLM.
- This thread is on the specific topic of the use of dissimulation and/or
- deception by distributors when recruiting, and it is on that that I
- am commenting.
-
- I remarked earlier that the company could stamp out the
- practice if they wanted to. Lou Kvitek remarked:
-
- >That would be impossible to police. We're talking about 1 Million
- >distributors in the US. How does Espial or NuSkin 'stamp it out'?
-
- I stick by what I said. It would probably take 3 to 6 months, but they
- could effectively reduce dissimulation/deception to a minimum. This isn't
- the place for a discourse on the social dynamics of groups (!), but any
- group can be radically affected by a strategic combination of code and
- ethos. What you do also need is a degree of will, usually on the part
- of the group itself (critical mass) and some key individual(s) within it.
- So:
-
- 1) If Mr. Voss went to the head of Amway's legal department and asked for
- a couple of legislative sentences to incorporate into the distributor
- regulations which would make it clear that the kind of deception currently
- practiced by some Amway groups is not on, it would take the legal dept.
- about half an hour to draw something up.
-
- 2) It would be easy to send copies of the new regulations to all 1.8 million
- distributors, making clear that Amway would entertain complaints of gross
- violations, and that they would issue clear warnings to continuing offendors
- and then follow through by terminating distributorships where offensive conduct
- continued.
-
- 3) At the next meeting of the top distributors (in Nu Skin this would
- be the Blue Diamonds) they could make deception/dissimulation the top item on
- the agenda, discuss it and make clear that the company wanted them to lead the
- way through each of their organisations - both by distributing their
- own directives and by setting an example ('do what I do').
-
- 4) Company representatives attend plenty of publicity/recruiting meetings
- and conferences organised by individual distributor groups. When they
- do so they could simply make very clear that they would not lend their support
- to any meeting where deception is even suspected of being used and where
- the Amway identity is not made very explicit.
- (At any Nu Skin or Interior Design promotional meeting there is almost
- always a big 'Nu Skin International' banner, Nu Skin and IDN posters,
- and a display table full of products. Ditto with Espial. That's one
- obvious way to do it.)
-
- 5) Every decent-size MLM has loads of in-house journals, training tapes,
- etc. - all the paraphernalia of corporate communications and culture.
- These provide a wide range of opportunities for conveying to just about
- every active distributor "You do it this way, not that way." And Amway
- is famous for being prolific in the distributor training material it offers.
-
- So, am I saying that Amway trains its people to deceive, as Lou worries
- I may be? Not quite that - and *of course* there are many different
- organisations under the single MLM umbrella, and Lou and Jon are two
- individual representatives for whom most of us have a very high regard -
- but there is a point at which institutional acquiescence goes from being
- passive to active. And there is such a thing as mainstream group culture
- and ethos which ultimately does emanate from corporate headquarters. It _is_
- a real question "what does the company want here?" The temptation is not to
- disturb anything that seems to work financially (and Amway sales
- continue to advance each year); but in the long-term it's the company
- image and identity that's at stake.
-
- And at this point I should make very clear that I am not picking on Amway.
- I have watched a company with which I work, Nu Skin, go along with
- some very questionable practices: in their case overhyping the earnings
- potential and a degree of what I would call frontloading (a different
- form of deception!). Then in 1991 the company decided that, despite
- record financial profits, things had gone too far: that the company's
- public standing and long-term health was at risk, and that the behavior
- of a number of distributors ran contrary to the owner's own principles.
- Within 6 months or so they had cleaned up, and the bulk of the
- distributor force currently conducts its business to a pretty professional
- standard of conduct, so far as I can see. (Espial, the other company I
- mentioned, is still too small to have been through much of a testing phase
- as yet; but I do observe that the owner's own character and values are
- inevitably very apparent in the straightforward and principled way
- distributors conduct their business.)
-
- [One final 'philosophical' point. I have worked for, and with, quite a number
- of different organisations in my time, and have held fairly high positions in
- some. I used to be much more inclined to accept (even if reluctantly) arguments
- of the inevitability of established group procedure, the power of precedent
- etc.; experience now suggests to me that more often than not institutional
- arguments aimed at _not_ taking action, and avoiding change, derive more from
- inertia, protection of vested interest, and fear of difference, than anything
- more profound - that if a course of action, or practice, seems to you to be
- 'right', and your assessment derives from the same basic principles that lead
- you to continue being a member of your organisation in the first place, you
- should go right ahead and argue your case and work for change. 'I'd like to,
- but the nature/weight of the organisation makes it impossible' is usually mere
- obfuscation or mystification. {Please note, by the way, that I am not arguing
- from some misconceived notion about the Power and Omnipotence of Positive
- Thinking, nor from any ideological conviction about Revolution!}]
-
- Oh but Enough! Enough! I have already gone beyond what the patience or
- interest of misc.consumers readers will tolerate, I suspect. And it's
- time to transfer further discussion to the group where it belongs: please
- note that I have set the Follow-Up to alt.business.multi-level.
-
- Anthony Bulloch
- (510) 549-9127 (home)
- FAX: (510) 883-9433
- abulloch@garnet.berkeley.edu
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