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- From: andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman)
- Subject: Re: The Problem with UNIX
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- Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
- References: <1992Nov9.172715.16367@cs.wisc.edu> <1992Nov9.215734.10043@prl.dec.com> <1452@pacsoft.com>
- Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 04:32:46 GMT
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- mike@pacsoft.com (Mike Stefanik) writes:
- >In an article, boyd@prl.dec.com (Boyd Roberts) writes:
- >>The real problem, as Rob has so eloquently put it:
- >>
- >> ``Not only is UNIX dead, it's starting to smell really bad.''
- >
- >I find it amazing that people, apparently in pursuit of some small amount of
- >enjoyment, spend their time proclaiming the death of UNIX. This sort of thing
- >is really beginning to take on the flavor of the apocalyptic doomsayers (you
- >know the type ... they run about the streets wearing dirty plaid suits bellowing
- >"Repent Now, For the End is Near!").
- >
- >I have heard UNIX to be proclaimed dead and buried for years now. I have no
- >doubt that there are those who would *like* UNIX to be dead, but desire alone
- >does not make a thing so. Microsoft is a good case in point, I suppose.
- >
- >So, Boyd, if UNIX really is dead, where is the funeral? I would so enjoy
- >paying my last respects ...
- >
- >Oh, and by the way, I do assume then that you are using VMS, DOS, or perhaps a
- >beta version of Windows NT? You wouldn't be caught *dead* using UNIX, am I
- >right? :-)
- >
-
- Calm down! What Rob Pike (and Boyd) mean is that its lost its appeal.
- Its lost the elegance it once had. The requirements (and environment)
- for an OS have changed a lot but the overall design hasn't. People
- have grafted all sorts of things on the side (have a look at the
- recent offerings from USL - makes MVS look like CP/M!) and pushed the
- OS into areas where it wasn't meant to go (i.e. becoming a distributed
- system). And it doesn't cope too well. Its bigger and slower than
- ever. You don't get a distributed system from sticking something on the
- side of a non-distributed system. You need to build the system
- with distribution in mind. Now that doesn't mean that there's anything
- else (available to the masses) that is any better (by "better" I'm
- talking about things I want - I'm a programmer and UNIX *is*
- user-friendly to me).
-
- --
- Andy Newman (andy@research.canon.oz.au)
-